Final stat 7 - 39 tonight. SIXTEEN FOR EIGHTY last 2 nights from 3.

[RazzelnoDazzel]

7 for 39 from 3. I know , I know. it's all Kyrie's fault   
Whatever. I know Kyrie is going to get the charlie brown treatment but this was no doubt a TEAM COLLAPSE. Point blank. Sad to say but some changes got to be made. I'm most likely the minority but I don't blame Kyrie. I hope he resigns. I BLAME BRAD!! At some point he just needed to simply say those three words.... STOP SHOOTING THREES!!!!!!

I mean you don’t find it ironic that we have NEVER really had a Brad Stevens issue until Kyrie returned? Kyrie Cale’s himself a genius, you don’t think that had a little to do with it? Before Kyrie came back we was bragging about Tatum, Brown, Smart, AL, and even Rozier was getting some love. Think it’s ironic that no one made a leapfrog in talent since Kyrie came back? Just asking.

No, in all honesty. I was screaming the same exact thing game 7 of last year against the Cavs. I think Kyrie is a convenient scapegoat. Sure Kyrie could've played better. i'm not saying he doesn't deserve any blame but again this a team collapse. Maybe Stephen A Smith is right and they messed up by trying to put Hayward in the mix. I don't know.... Talent is definitely there. C's with just kyrie and NO HAYWARD last year was going very well. It's a chemistry issue. I don't know who to blame but I personally think the brunt of it should fall on Brad.

I agree I don’t know exactly who the blame but I’m putting the bulk on our “genius”. Okay if the rest of the team did poorly and Kyrie went 16/21 then we can start looking at other things. Look Kyrie got exposed, he couldn’t score like he normally could, I hate his team did it help him out much but him hisself is still supposed to look like a supper star.

[droopdog7]

Obviously hitting shots is important.  But show we what we could to to get easy offense?  Nowhere to be seen.  People wanted us to drive but the guys were swallowed up every time they did so. 

The bucks were the real problem.  The best defense I’ve seen in awhile.  Nothing was easy.

[MaxAMillion]

7 for 39 from 3. I know , I know. it's all Kyrie's fault   
Whatever. I know Kyrie is going to get the charlie brown treatment but this was no doubt a TEAM COLLAPSE. Point blank. Sad to say but some changes got to be made. I'm most likely the minority but I don't blame Kyrie. I hope he resigns. I BLAME BRAD!! At some point he just needed to simply say those three words.... STOP SHOOTING THREES!!!!!!

I mean you don’t find it ironic that we have NEVER really had a Brad Stevens issue until Kyrie returned? Kyrie Cale’s himself a genius, you don’t think that had a little to do with it? Before Kyrie came back we was bragging about Tatum, Brown, Smart, AL, and even Rozier was getting some love. Think it’s ironic that no one made a leapfrog in talent since Kyrie came back? Just asking.

There were also reports that players had problems with the minutes that Hayward was getting. I wonder why that never gets brought up. Hayward stinks but that always gets excused away. Part of me wants Kyrie gone just so I can see this site's new set of excuses for why the $30 million dollar man is a non factor.

[Eric_Suede]

Obviously hitting shots is important.  But show we what we could to to get easy offense?  Nowhere to be seen.  People wanted us to drive but the guys were swallowed up every time they did so. 

The bucks were the real problem.  The best defense I’ve seen in awhile.  Nothing was easy.

Then they would've gotten to the line alot more. Brown is an excellent driver. He can get to the hole almost at will. For some reason he'd rather shoot 3's. Same with Jayson. He has a sweet mid range jumper. 3 is out his range. Obviously Milwaukee did what they had to do but watch game 1 again. Things were totally different when #1 they played hard defense and #2 they attacked the basket.

[keevsnick]

Obviously hitting shots is important.  But show we what we could to to get easy offense?  Nowhere to be seen.  People wanted us to drive but the guys were swallowed up every time they did so. 

The bucks were the real problem.  The best defense I’ve seen in awhile.  Nothing was easy.

Then they would've gotten to the line alot more. Brown is an excellent driver. He can get to the hole almost at will. For some reason he'd rather shoot 3's. Same with Jayson. He has a sweet mid range jumper. 3 is out his range. Obviously Milwaukee did what they had to do but watch game 1 again. Things were totally different when #1 they played hard defense and #2 they attacked the basket.

Jayson shooting 37% on three is more efficient than Jayson shooting 35% on long twos or even 43 percent on shorter mid rangers.

[Boris Badenov]

Obviously hitting shots is important.  But show we what we could to to get easy offense?  Nowhere to be seen.  People wanted us to drive but the guys were swallowed up every time they did so. 

The bucks were the real problem.  The best defense I’ve seen in awhile.  Nothing was easy.

Then they would've gotten to the line alot more. Brown is an excellent driver. He can get to the hole almost at will. For some reason he'd rather shoot 3's. Same with Jayson. He has a sweet mid range jumper. 3 is out his range. Obviously Milwaukee did what they had to do but watch game 1 again. Things were totally different when #1 they played hard defense and #2 they attacked the basket.

Jayson shooting 37% on three is more efficient than Jayson shooting 35% on long twos or even 43 percent on shorter mid rangers.

Or even 50% on anything that's a 2 pointer.

I mean, the league is what it is right now, and lost in all the gnashing of teeth is the fact that the top 3 teams in the league by made 3s per game were:

HOU
MIL
GSW

And....guess what, those teams had 3 of the best 5 records in the league.

We didn't lose because we take too many 3s. We lost because Milwaukee is a better team. They defended well, and had the best player on the floor, and were the obvious choice to win the series, really.

The message for next year isn't "stop taking threes." It's "defend better" (we gave up 120ppg in the last 4 of this series), and "run a better offense" (we were atrocious in terms of making the right play to get a good open shot).

[mr. dee]

Obviously hitting shots is important.  But show we what we could to to get easy offense?  Nowhere to be seen.  People wanted us to drive but the guys were swallowed up every time they did so. 

The bucks were the real problem.  The best defense I’ve seen in awhile.  Nothing was easy.

Then they would've gotten to the line alot more. Brown is an excellent driver. He can get to the hole almost at will. For some reason he'd rather shoot 3's. Same with Jayson. He has a sweet mid range jumper. 3 is out his range. Obviously Milwaukee did what they had to do but watch game 1 again. Things were totally different when #1 they played hard defense and #2 they attacked the basket.

Jayson shooting 37% on three is more efficient than Jayson shooting 35% on long twos or even 43 percent on shorter mid rangers.

Or even 50% on anything that's a 2 pointer.

I mean, the league is what it is right now, and lost in all the gnashing of teeth is the fact that the top 3 teams in the league by made 3s per game were:

HOU
MIL
GSW

And....guess what, those teams had 3 of the best 5 records in the league.

We didn't lose because we take too many 3s. We lost because Milwaukee is a better team. They defended well, and had the best player on the floor, and were the obvious choice to win the series, really.

The message for next year isn't "stop taking threes." It's "defend better" (we gave up 120ppg in the last 4 of this series), and "run a better offense" (we were atrocious in terms of making the right play to get a good open shot).

The problem is this team doesn't have any 3 point specialist. We have plenty of jack-of-all-trades, masters-of-none type of players that plays like they are some sort of superstar scorers.

[Boris Badenov]

Obviously hitting shots is important.  But show we what we could to to get easy offense?  Nowhere to be seen.  People wanted us to drive but the guys were swallowed up every time they did so. 

The bucks were the real problem.  The best defense I’ve seen in awhile.  Nothing was easy.

Then they would've gotten to the line alot more. Brown is an excellent driver. He can get to the hole almost at will. For some reason he'd rather shoot 3's. Same with Jayson. He has a sweet mid range jumper. 3 is out his range. Obviously Milwaukee did what they had to do but watch game 1 again. Things were totally different when #1 they played hard defense and #2 they attacked the basket.

Jayson shooting 37% on three is more efficient than Jayson shooting 35% on long twos or even 43 percent on shorter mid rangers.

Or even 50% on anything that's a 2 pointer.

I mean, the league is what it is right now, and lost in all the gnashing of teeth is the fact that the top 3 teams in the league by made 3s per game were:

HOU
MIL
GSW

And....guess what, those teams had 3 of the best 5 records in the league.

We didn't lose because we take too many 3s. We lost because Milwaukee is a better team. They defended well, and had the best player on the floor, and were the obvious choice to win the series, really.

The message for next year isn't "stop taking threes." It's "defend better" (we gave up 120ppg in the last 4 of this series), and "run a better offense" (we were atrocious in terms of making the right play to get a good open shot).

The problem is this team doesn't have any 3 point specialist. We have plenty of jack-of-all-trades, masters-of-none type of players that plays like they are some sort of superstar scorers.

We were 6th in made 3s and 7th in percentage this year.. THE THREES ARE NOT THE PROBLEM.

We were 22nd in rebounding this year and MIL was 1st. We outrebounded Indiana in every game and swept the series. We outrebounded MIL in game 1 and won. They outrebounded us in every game after that and won 4 in a row.

What is the real issue, then?

[keevsnick]

Obviously hitting shots is important.  But show we what we could to to get easy offense?  Nowhere to be seen.  People wanted us to drive but the guys were swallowed up every time they did so. 

The bucks were the real problem.  The best defense I’ve seen in awhile.  Nothing was easy.

Then they would've gotten to the line alot more. Brown is an excellent driver. He can get to the hole almost at will. For some reason he'd rather shoot 3's. Same with Jayson. He has a sweet mid range jumper. 3 is out his range. Obviously Milwaukee did what they had to do but watch game 1 again. Things were totally different when #1 they played hard defense and #2 they attacked the basket.

Jayson shooting 37% on three is more efficient than Jayson shooting 35% on long twos or even 43 percent on shorter mid rangers.

Or even 50% on anything that's a 2 pointer.

I mean, the league is what it is right now, and lost in all the gnashing of teeth is the fact that the top 3 teams in the league by made 3s per game were:

HOU
MIL
GSW

And....guess what, those teams had 3 of the best 5 records in the league.

We didn't lose because we take too many 3s. We lost because Milwaukee is a better team. They defended well, and had the best player on the floor, and were the obvious choice to win the series, really.

The message for next year isn't "stop taking threes." It's "defend better" (we gave up 120ppg in the last 4 of this series), and "run a better offense" (we were atrocious in terms of making the right play to get a good open shot).

The problem is this team doesn't have any 3 point specialist. We have plenty of jack-of-all-trades, masters-of-none type of players that plays like they are some sort of superstar scorers.

We were 6th in made 3s and 7th in percentage this year.. THE THREES ARE NOT THE PROBLEM.

We were 22nd in rebounding this year and MIL was 1st. We outrebounded Indiana in every game and swept the series. We outrebounded MIL in game 1 and won. They outrebounded us in every game after that and won 4 in a row.

What is the real issue, then?

The problem isnt the threes, its that the 3's are the ONLY thing we have. If we arent hitting them, we are doomed. A perfect NBA offense in todays game is shooting everything at the room and behind the arc and them supplementing that with a steady diet of free throws. We do one of those things well, then supplement it with long twos.

 Part of the solution to this guys simply getting better. Brown has shown much better finishing this year, and his handle and passing both improved. But both need to take another step in order to make his a true slashing weapon. It would help if he got better at drawing fouls as well. Tatum needs to drastically tighten his handle, and improve his first step. I think both of those guys, with the right improvements, have the raw ingredients to get to the rim and get fouls.

Secondly we need to put the ball in the hands of guys who go inside. Our ball handler this year were Hayward was so diminished athletically he couldn't, Rozier who is a terrible finished, Smart who doesn't really have the athleticism to get there and Kyrie who prefers to take jumpers. When your primary ball handers can't get inside, can't finish, or us dont wnat to you won't draw fouls or get layup. Next ear Brown, Tatum needs to get more chances to handle the ball because its usually wings who do the most damage driving to the rim and drawing fouls.

Lastly it would help if we had a big that rolled (say AD for example), or went to post up's more often. But with brad I'm not holding my breath. 

[Boris Badenov]

Obviously hitting shots is important.  But show we what we could to to get easy offense?  Nowhere to be seen.  People wanted us to drive but the guys were swallowed up every time they did so. 

The bucks were the real problem.  The best defense I’ve seen in awhile.  Nothing was easy.

Then they would've gotten to the line alot more. Brown is an excellent driver. He can get to the hole almost at will. For some reason he'd rather shoot 3's. Same with Jayson. He has a sweet mid range jumper. 3 is out his range. Obviously Milwaukee did what they had to do but watch game 1 again. Things were totally different when #1 they played hard defense and #2 they attacked the basket.

Jayson shooting 37% on three is more efficient than Jayson shooting 35% on long twos or even 43 percent on shorter mid rangers.

Or even 50% on anything that's a 2 pointer.

I mean, the league is what it is right now, and lost in all the gnashing of teeth is the fact that the top 3 teams in the league by made 3s per game were:

HOU
MIL
GSW

And....guess what, those teams had 3 of the best 5 records in the league.

We didn't lose because we take too many 3s. We lost because Milwaukee is a better team. They defended well, and had the best player on the floor, and were the obvious choice to win the series, really.

The message for next year isn't "stop taking threes." It's "defend better" (we gave up 120ppg in the last 4 of this series), and "run a better offense" (we were atrocious in terms of making the right play to get a good open shot).

The problem is this team doesn't have any 3 point specialist. We have plenty of jack-of-all-trades, masters-of-none type of players that plays like they are some sort of superstar scorers.

We were 6th in made 3s and 7th in percentage this year.. THE THREES ARE NOT THE PROBLEM.

We were 22nd in rebounding this year and MIL was 1st. We outrebounded Indiana in every game and swept the series. We outrebounded MIL in game 1 and won. They outrebounded us in every game after that and won 4 in a row.

What is the real issue, then?

The problem isnt the threes, its that the 3's are the ONLY thing we have. If we arent hitting them, we are doomed. A perfect NBA offense in todays game is shooting everything at the room and behind the arc and them supplementing that with a steady diet of free throws. We do one of those things well, then supplement it with long twos.

 Part of the solution to this guys simply getting better. Brown has shown much better finishing this year, and his handle and passing both improved. But both need to take another step in order to make his a true slashing weapon. It would help if he got better at drawing fouls as well. Tatum needs to drastically tighten his handle, and improve his first step. I think both of those guys, with the right improvements, have the raw ingredients to get to the rim and get fouls.

Secondly we need to put the ball in the hands of guys who go inside. Our ball handler this year were Hayward was so diminished athletically he couldn't, Rozier who is a terrible finished, Smart who doesn't really have the athleticism to get there and Kyrie who prefers to take jumpers. When your primary ball handers can't get inside, can't finish, or us dont wnat to you won't draw fouls or get layup. Next ear Brown, Tatum needs to get more chances to handle the ball because its usually wings who do the most damage driving to the rim and drawing fouls.

Lastly it would help if we had a big that rolled (say AD for example), or went to post up's more often. But with brad I'm not holding my breath.

Yup. 29th in free throws this year too. Why Irving, Tatum, Brown and Horford weren't averaging 15 FTA per game between them is beyond me.

[Ogaju]

BasketBall is still a big man's game. It does not mean you HAVE to be big, it means you have to play BIG.

IT was always the smallest man on the court but he played BIG.

Celtics had no BIGS or did not play them.

Basketball is still a big man's game.

Please stop being apologists for Kyrie, he stunk up the joint.

[Eric_Suede]

Obviously hitting shots is important.  But show we what we could to to get easy offense?  Nowhere to be seen.  People wanted us to drive but the guys were swallowed up every time they did so. 

The bucks were the real problem.  The best defense I’ve seen in awhile.  Nothing was easy.

Then they would've gotten to the line alot more. Brown is an excellent driver. He can get to the hole almost at will. For some reason he'd rather shoot 3's. Same with Jayson. He has a sweet mid range jumper. 3 is out his range. Obviously Milwaukee did what they had to do but watch game 1 again. Things were totally different when #1 they played hard defense and #2 they attacked the basket.

Jayson shooting 37% on three is more efficient than Jayson shooting 35% on long twos or even 43 percent on shorter mid rangers.

Or even 50% on anything that's a 2 pointer.

I mean, the league is what it is right now, and lost in all the gnashing of teeth is the fact that the top 3 teams in the league by made 3s per game were:

HOU
MIL
GSW

And....guess what, those teams had 3 of the best 5 records in the league.

We didn't lose because we take too many 3s. We lost because Milwaukee is a better team. They defended well, and had the best player on the floor, and were the obvious choice to win the series, really.

The message for next year isn't "stop taking threes." It's "defend better" (we gave up 120ppg in the last 4 of this series), and "run a better offense" (we were atrocious in terms of making the right play to get a good open shot).

The problem is this team doesn't have any 3 point specialist. We have plenty of jack-of-all-trades, masters-of-none type of players that plays like they are some sort of superstar scorers.

We were 6th in made 3s and 7th in percentage this year.. THE THREES ARE NOT THE PROBLEM.

We were 22nd in rebounding this year and MIL was 1st. We outrebounded Indiana in every game and swept the series. We outrebounded MIL in game 1 and won. They outrebounded us in every game after that and won 4 in a row.

What is the real issue, then?

I respectfully disagree. Sure rebounding was an issue as well but if I had to say what was most at fault.... I'd still say it was the chucking up of 3's that was the main culprit. Even if the C's did get more offensive boards they would've kicked it out for 3 and perhaps went 9 for 48 instead of 7-39. You got to know when to say when, and have a plan B. I know the nba has changed but I think teams have thrown the baby out with the bathwater. I know Warriors style basketball seems to be the thing now but you don't all out abandon being physical and taking it to the hole. You have to make adjustments , especially when you CLEARLY see that it's not a great shooting night. What were your thoughts about game 7 against the cavs last year? Tatum just dunked on Lebron , C's up by 5... From that point forward team starts shooting 3's like crazy while Lebron and the cavs attacked the basket. Who won? 

[rocknrollforyoursoul]

Obviously hitting shots is important.  But show we what we could to to get easy offense?  Nowhere to be seen.  People wanted us to drive but the guys were swallowed up every time they did so. 

The bucks were the real problem.  The best defense I’ve seen in awhile.  Nothing was easy.

Then they would've gotten to the line alot more. Brown is an excellent driver. He can get to the hole almost at will. For some reason he'd rather shoot 3's. Same with Jayson. He has a sweet mid range jumper. 3 is out his range. Obviously Milwaukee did what they had to do but watch game 1 again. Things were totally different when #1 they played hard defense and #2 they attacked the basket.

Jayson shooting 37% on three is more efficient than Jayson shooting 35% on long twos or even 43 percent on shorter mid rangers.

Or even 50% on anything that's a 2 pointer.

I mean, the league is what it is right now, and lost in all the gnashing of teeth is the fact that the top 3 teams in the league by made 3s per game were:

HOU
MIL
GSW

And....guess what, those teams had 3 of the best 5 records in the league.

We didn't lose because we take too many 3s. We lost because Milwaukee is a better team. They defended well, and had the best player on the floor, and were the obvious choice to win the series, really.

The message for next year isn't "stop taking threes." It's "defend better" (we gave up 120ppg in the last 4 of this series), and "run a better offense" (we were atrocious in terms of making the right play to get a good open shot).

The problem is this team doesn't have any 3 point specialist. We have plenty of jack-of-all-trades, masters-of-none type of players that plays like they are some sort of superstar scorers.

We were 6th in made 3s and 7th in percentage this year.. THE THREES ARE NOT THE PROBLEM.

We were 22nd in rebounding this year and MIL was 1st. We outrebounded Indiana in every game and swept the series. We outrebounded MIL in game 1 and won. They outrebounded us in every game after that and won 4 in a row.

What is the real issue, then?

The problem isnt the threes, its that the 3's are the ONLY thing we have. If we arent hitting them, we are doomed. A perfect NBA offense in todays game is shooting everything at the room and behind the arc and them supplementing that with a steady diet of free throws. We do one of those things well, then supplement it with long twos.

 Part of the solution to this guys simply getting better. Brown has shown much better finishing this year, and his handle and passing both improved. But both need to take another step in order to make his a true slashing weapon. It would help if he got better at drawing fouls as well. Tatum needs to drastically tighten his handle, and improve his first step. I think both of those guys, with the right improvements, have the raw ingredients to get to the rim and get fouls.

Secondly we need to put the ball in the hands of guys who go inside. Our ball handler this year were Hayward was so diminished athletically he couldn't, Rozier who is a terrible finished, Smart who doesn't really have the athleticism to get there and Kyrie who prefers to take jumpers. When your primary ball handers can't get inside, can't finish, or us dont wnat to you won't draw fouls or get layup. Next ear Brown, Tatum needs to get more chances to handle the ball because its usually wings who do the most damage driving to the rim and drawing fouls.

Lastly it would help if we had a big that rolled (say AD for example), or went to post up's more often. But with brad I'm not holding my breath.

You hit the nail on the head. This team has little in the way of rim attacking, and they don't get to the line a lot. And despite being top 10 in threes, there's not one shooter on this team who scares opponents, or who consistently lights it up.

And they're also a bad rebounding team. But that's what you get when you have hardly any true bigs.