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Quote from: RPGenerate on May 08, 2019, 12:18:53 PMInteresting stuff, OP. Paul Pierce's earlier part of his career was before my time, so you only ever hear the positives.That was because Danny started his character assasination on Paul and he got tired and frustrated about it that season.
Interesting stuff, OP. Paul Pierce's earlier part of his career was before my time, so you only ever hear the positives.
Quote from: SparzWizard on May 08, 2019, 02:13:13 PMQuote from: gpap on May 08, 2019, 02:03:48 PMQuote from: PhoSita on May 08, 2019, 01:51:42 PMQuote from: Moranis on May 08, 2019, 01:41:17 PMQuote from: Donoghus on May 08, 2019, 01:24:27 PMQuote from: Moranis on May 08, 2019, 01:17:15 PMIf Chris Paul had been on this team the last decade+ it might have more than 1 title. Just remember that as well.Or if KG doesn't get hurt that night in Utah, it might be more than 1 title with Pierce. Remember that as well.Sure, plenty of what ifs, but Chris Paul has ended up with HOF career and is obviously significantly younger than Paul Pierce. And obviously there is no guarantee that CP stayed the whole time and how things would have shaken out, but if I could go back in time to the 2005 draft and knew nothing other than CP would end up with a HOF career and PP would have a normal career arc, I, without question and 100% of the time, would have chosen CP over PP going forward. 100% of the time.What if they had traded for Paul, and as a result they never were in a position to trade for Garnett?They probably don't even win one title in that scenario. CP probably still ends up going to another team in 2012 / 2013.I do believe if we ended up with the #1 pick in the 2007 lottery, that Ainge would've drafted Durant and probably traded Pierce.He probably would've built around Durant, Jefferson, Rondo, Perkins, Tony Allen and Delonte West.So, getting the 5th pick ended up being a blessing in disguise.Sure, we would've had Durant as our franchise player for the next 10-12 years and a much longer window but I'll still take the championship in '07/08.Or knowing Ainge, he would've drafted Greg Oden or Mike Conley with the number 1 pick. Just like how he passed on Giannis for Olynyk.Ainge has said numerous times that Durant was the only player that he would've drafted.But can we please leave the drafting process alone... I swear we talk about Giannis like every day, while not being cognizant of the fact other GM's also passed on Giannis too.
Quote from: gpap on May 08, 2019, 02:03:48 PMQuote from: PhoSita on May 08, 2019, 01:51:42 PMQuote from: Moranis on May 08, 2019, 01:41:17 PMQuote from: Donoghus on May 08, 2019, 01:24:27 PMQuote from: Moranis on May 08, 2019, 01:17:15 PMIf Chris Paul had been on this team the last decade+ it might have more than 1 title. Just remember that as well.Or if KG doesn't get hurt that night in Utah, it might be more than 1 title with Pierce. Remember that as well.Sure, plenty of what ifs, but Chris Paul has ended up with HOF career and is obviously significantly younger than Paul Pierce. And obviously there is no guarantee that CP stayed the whole time and how things would have shaken out, but if I could go back in time to the 2005 draft and knew nothing other than CP would end up with a HOF career and PP would have a normal career arc, I, without question and 100% of the time, would have chosen CP over PP going forward. 100% of the time.What if they had traded for Paul, and as a result they never were in a position to trade for Garnett?They probably don't even win one title in that scenario. CP probably still ends up going to another team in 2012 / 2013.I do believe if we ended up with the #1 pick in the 2007 lottery, that Ainge would've drafted Durant and probably traded Pierce.He probably would've built around Durant, Jefferson, Rondo, Perkins, Tony Allen and Delonte West.So, getting the 5th pick ended up being a blessing in disguise.Sure, we would've had Durant as our franchise player for the next 10-12 years and a much longer window but I'll still take the championship in '07/08.Or knowing Ainge, he would've drafted Greg Oden or Mike Conley with the number 1 pick. Just like how he passed on Giannis for Olynyk.
Quote from: PhoSita on May 08, 2019, 01:51:42 PMQuote from: Moranis on May 08, 2019, 01:41:17 PMQuote from: Donoghus on May 08, 2019, 01:24:27 PMQuote from: Moranis on May 08, 2019, 01:17:15 PMIf Chris Paul had been on this team the last decade+ it might have more than 1 title. Just remember that as well.Or if KG doesn't get hurt that night in Utah, it might be more than 1 title with Pierce. Remember that as well.Sure, plenty of what ifs, but Chris Paul has ended up with HOF career and is obviously significantly younger than Paul Pierce. And obviously there is no guarantee that CP stayed the whole time and how things would have shaken out, but if I could go back in time to the 2005 draft and knew nothing other than CP would end up with a HOF career and PP would have a normal career arc, I, without question and 100% of the time, would have chosen CP over PP going forward. 100% of the time.What if they had traded for Paul, and as a result they never were in a position to trade for Garnett?They probably don't even win one title in that scenario. CP probably still ends up going to another team in 2012 / 2013.I do believe if we ended up with the #1 pick in the 2007 lottery, that Ainge would've drafted Durant and probably traded Pierce.He probably would've built around Durant, Jefferson, Rondo, Perkins, Tony Allen and Delonte West.So, getting the 5th pick ended up being a blessing in disguise.Sure, we would've had Durant as our franchise player for the next 10-12 years and a much longer window but I'll still take the championship in '07/08.
Quote from: Moranis on May 08, 2019, 01:41:17 PMQuote from: Donoghus on May 08, 2019, 01:24:27 PMQuote from: Moranis on May 08, 2019, 01:17:15 PMIf Chris Paul had been on this team the last decade+ it might have more than 1 title. Just remember that as well.Or if KG doesn't get hurt that night in Utah, it might be more than 1 title with Pierce. Remember that as well.Sure, plenty of what ifs, but Chris Paul has ended up with HOF career and is obviously significantly younger than Paul Pierce. And obviously there is no guarantee that CP stayed the whole time and how things would have shaken out, but if I could go back in time to the 2005 draft and knew nothing other than CP would end up with a HOF career and PP would have a normal career arc, I, without question and 100% of the time, would have chosen CP over PP going forward. 100% of the time.What if they had traded for Paul, and as a result they never were in a position to trade for Garnett?They probably don't even win one title in that scenario. CP probably still ends up going to another team in 2012 / 2013.
Quote from: Donoghus on May 08, 2019, 01:24:27 PMQuote from: Moranis on May 08, 2019, 01:17:15 PMIf Chris Paul had been on this team the last decade+ it might have more than 1 title. Just remember that as well.Or if KG doesn't get hurt that night in Utah, it might be more than 1 title with Pierce. Remember that as well.Sure, plenty of what ifs, but Chris Paul has ended up with HOF career and is obviously significantly younger than Paul Pierce. And obviously there is no guarantee that CP stayed the whole time and how things would have shaken out, but if I could go back in time to the 2005 draft and knew nothing other than CP would end up with a HOF career and PP would have a normal career arc, I, without question and 100% of the time, would have chosen CP over PP going forward. 100% of the time.
Quote from: Moranis on May 08, 2019, 01:17:15 PMIf Chris Paul had been on this team the last decade+ it might have more than 1 title. Just remember that as well.Or if KG doesn't get hurt that night in Utah, it might be more than 1 title with Pierce. Remember that as well.
If Chris Paul had been on this team the last decade+ it might have more than 1 title. Just remember that as well.