Balance the team with this trade

[KG Living Legend]

 
  If you give up the best player in the deal you typically lose the trade. Not always as we've seen with Sabonis and Oladipo.

 Whether you like the trade or not TP for anyone who ranks this hypothetical team 1 through 10 best overall basketball player to worst.

 I find it interesting how close everyone is at the top.

 Semi, Bird, and Kyrie for  Knox, Mitchell Robinson, and Hardaway Jr.

 I truly believe if Kyrie gets traded Hayward becomes his old self again. I would like to see Hayward running the point with Smart in the backourt.

 Deepest team in the league now please try to rank 1 to 10. How they are playing this year. It's not easy.

Tatum
Morris
Horford
Smart
Hardaway
Hayward
Brown
Knox
Baynes
Rozier

 Now there is still four bigs in the ten man rotation but could use a little more size. Enter the Freakshows Bob Williams and Mitchell Robinson throw in Yabu and the future looks bright.

 Also possibly 3 firsts to either trade or draft a PG next year. Hopefully pass first with all these scorer's.

[KG Living Legend]

 I'd like to start at first

Horford
Morris
Tatum
Hayward
Smart

Hardaway instant offense sixth man, Brown defensive stopper and more  Baynes throwing elbows. More scoring punch with Knox and Terry to round out the top 10.
 

[nickagneta]

Are you perhaps overly enamored with the Knicks draft picks from last year? I think you might be!!!!

And for the love of all things green, I don't know why.

Bad trade. You don't trade a dollar bill for 4 quarters so I think it probably holds true of don't trade a dollar bill for 43 cents. That's what this trade does.

[Roy H.]

I don’t see how adding young guys in need of minutes “balances” the team. We’re just adding lesser players who would still need to develop.

Why the desire to constantly rebuild? We may as well start tanking for draft picks.

[KG Living Legend]

 Well. I think an adjustment is needed. I don't trust Kyrie. Hobbs was right about him from the start. I didn't like it at first either. It's not the player. It's the person.

 I feel like this team can unleash itself with the shot caller gone.

 

 With this trade we could also trade for Davis. More assets but no Irving anymore.

Horford
Davis
Hayward
Brown
Smart

 Trade Tatum, Knox, Hardaway and picks for Davis
 

[CelticSooner]

I don’t like Kyries personality all that much either. Acts too much like his idol Kobe but what’s the point trading him if the goal is to get AD this summer? Him resigning is dependent on having a running mate in Kyrie is it not?

[PhoSita]

No thanks.

I don't think there's going to be a major trade.

But if they were going to make a trade to improve the team this year, the obvious goal would be to streamline the talent at the top and provide more seasoned supporting players. 

The problem is not Kyrie.

The problem is that the supporting cast is inexperienced, inconsistent, and insecure in their roles.

[gouki88]

All your proposed Kyrie trades are flat out terrible

[Androslav]

No.
We wait for AD.
All else is a non-starter to me.

[Silky]

No.
We wait for AD.
All else is a non-starter to me.

Thats a bad mindset.

The stars wpuld jeed to align to get Davis.

He would need to decline extension, demand out, demand celtics and celtics would have to have good enough assets to trade for him(and our assets are declining in value this season.)

That makes the chances of all happenning imo like 10% or less.




Need to make moves now, improve te now and still have the newly aquired assets to trade for davis should the sun rise in the west.

[Androslav]

No.
We wait for AD.
All else is a non-starter to me.

Thats a bad mindset.

The stars wpuld jeed to align to get Davis.

He would need to decline extension, demand out, demand celtics and celtics would have to have good enough assets to trade for him(and our assets are declining in value this season.)

That makes the chances of all happenning imo like 10% or less.




Need to make moves now, improve te now and still have the newly aquired assets to trade for davis should the sun rise in the west.

Now we need to improve internally IMO.
It is not the easiest thing but will reap the biggest benefits long-term.

As for AD, we should try our best to get him, and not defeat ourselves in advance.

[Silky]

No.
We wait for AD.
All else is a non-starter to me.

Thats a bad mindset.

The stars wpuld jeed to align to get Davis.

He would need to decline extension, demand out, demand celtics and celtics would have to have good enough assets to trade for him(and our assets are declining in value this season.)

That makes the chances of all happenning imo like 10% or less.




Need to make moves now, improve te now and still have the newly aquired assets to trade for davis should the sun rise in the west.

Now we need to improve internally IMO.
It is not the easiest thing but will reap the biggest benefits long-term.

As for AD, we should try our best to get him, and not defeat ourselves in advance.

Hypotheically speaking.

If team did a couple moves to improve now, there is no reason they still are not in the davis game should that scenario meet the 4 requirements I previously stated.

Ie: baynes and morris for Nuikic. (Morris is a fa so hard to include in a deal for davis, nurkic is a [dang] good center locked up on a cheap deal, great salary balast)

Rozier, yabs, bird for bridges and holmes( bridges youth, younger than rozier locked up on a team friendly rookie scale for 3 more years.)

Basically imrpoves team now and adds 2 better assets to use in a possible ad deal.

[Androslav]

No.
We wait for AD.
All else is a non-starter to me.

Thats a bad mindset.

The stars wpuld jeed to align to get Davis.

He would need to decline extension, demand out, demand celtics and celtics would have to have good enough assets to trade for him(and our assets are declining in value this season.)

That makes the chances of all happenning imo like 10% or less.




Need to make moves now, improve te now and still have the newly aquired assets to trade for davis should the sun rise in the west.

Now we need to improve internally IMO.
It is not the easiest thing but will reap the biggest benefits long-term.

As for AD, we should try our best to get him, and not defeat ourselves in advance.

Hypotheically speaking.

If team did a couple moves to improve now, there is no reason they still are not in the davis game should that scenario meet the 4 requirements I previously stated.

Ie: baynes and morris for Nuikic. (Morris is a fa so hard to include in a deal for davis, nurkic is a [dang] good center locked up on a cheap deal, great salary balast)

Rozier, yabs, bird for bridges and holmes( bridges youth, younger than rozier locked up on a team friendly rookie scale for 3 more years.)

Basically imrpoves team now and adds 2 better assets to use in a possible ad deal.

Nurkić, Bridges, and Holmes are not upgrades by any stretch of imagination.

Nurkić will never make your defense above average and I want my center to do that. That is me being favorable toward Bosnian players.
Holmes, in particular, is perhaps the worst PNR defender in the league among centers. He bites on fakes like a 4-month-old puppy dog.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8hBU3-3ElM
Bridges is a project, that is not an upgrade by definition. And why would Phoenix give up on 10th pick after 3 months?

Morris plays a position of need, has some defensive versatility and is killing it from downtown.
Rozier is insurance for Kyrie.
I don't know what Yabu as a player is except trade salary matching fodder.

[Silky]

No.
We wait for AD.
All else is a non-starter to me.

Thats a bad mindset.

The stars wpuld jeed to align to get Davis.

He would need to decline extension, demand out, demand celtics and celtics would have to have good enough assets to trade for him(and our assets are declining in value this season.)

That makes the chances of all happenning imo like 10% or less.




Need to make moves now, improve te now and still have the newly aquired assets to trade for davis should the sun rise in the west.

Now we need to improve internally IMO.
It is not the easiest thing but will reap the biggest benefits long-term.

As for AD, we should try our best to get him, and not defeat ourselves in advance.

Hypotheically speaking.

If team did a couple moves to improve now, there is no reason they still are not in the davis game should that scenario meet the 4 requirements I previously stated.

Ie: baynes and morris for Nuikic. (Morris is a fa so hard to include in a deal for davis, nurkic is a [dang] good center locked up on a cheap deal, great salary balast)

Rozier, yabs, bird for bridges and holmes( bridges youth, younger than rozier locked up on a team friendly rookie scale for 3 more years.)

Basically imrpoves team now and adds 2 better assets to use in a possible ad deal.

Nurkić, Bridges, and Holmes are not upgrades by any stretch of imagination.

Nurkić will never make your defense above average and I want my center to do that. That is me being favorable toward Bosnian players.
Holmes, in particular, is perhaps the worst PNR defender in the league among centers. He bites on fakes like a 4-month-old puppy dog.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8hBU3-3ElM
Bridges is a project, that is not an upgrade by definition. And why would Phoenix give up on 10th pick after 3 months?

Morris plays a position of need, has some defensive versatility and is killing it from downtown.
Rozier is insurance for Kyrie.
I don't know what Yabu as a player is except trade salary matching fodder.

Nukic is a defensive anchor now. Putting up better numbers than Al.

Holmes is an expiring contract end of bench bigman.

Bridges is an asset wiith more current calue than rozier due to contract status and potential.

Morris is not a position of need as Horford would replace him.