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In your opinion, which players need to go (trade, waivers, etc.)? (pick up to 15)

Hayward
7 (7.6%)
Horford
2 (2.2%)
Irving
5 (5.4%)
Smart
2 (2.2%)
Tatum
2 (2.2%)
Morris
2 (2.2%)
Baynes
1 (1.1%)
Brown
10 (10.9%)
Rozier
16 (17.4%)
Yabusele
12 (13%)
RW3
1 (1.1%)
Ojeleye
2 (2.2%)
Theis
2 (2.2%)
Wanamaker
3 (3.3%)
Other: coaches, two-way, inactive - away from team, etc.
3 (3.3%)
keep everyone
22 (23.9%)

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Re: Poll: Which Celtics players need to go?
« Reply #15 on: November 21, 2018, 01:38:15 PM »

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Quote from: hpantazo on November 21, 2018, 10:33:25 AM
whoever chose Kyrie doesn't know much about basketball or is blinded by personal bias

I chose Kyrie.

He is a cold stone killer of a scorer, and below average at everything else. No one, and I mean no one, plays as well with him as without him.

I thought his situation with LeBron was perfect for him. LeBron let him be what he was, and he did all the difficult stuff to make it work.

What makes this team special is that it has Al Horford and 4 really good two way wings. We would be better off with a pass first point guard who can defend and make open shots, even if they weren't as good as Kyrie.
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Re: Poll: Which Celtics players need to go?
« Reply #16 on: November 21, 2018, 01:47:39 PM »

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Quote from: td450 on November 21, 2018, 01:38:15 PM
Quote from: hpantazo on November 21, 2018, 10:33:25 AM
whoever chose Kyrie doesn't know much about basketball or is blinded by personal bias

I chose Kyrie.

He is a cold stone killer of a scorer, and below average at everything else. No one, and I mean no one, plays as well with him as without him.

I thought his situation with LeBron was perfect for him. LeBron let him be what he was, and he did all the difficult stuff to make it work.

What makes this team special is that it has Al Horford and 4 really good two way wings. We would be better off with a pass first point guard who can defend and make open shots, even if they weren't as good as Kyrie.
I assume you're basing this on data?  The bigger question is how well the team performs with Kyrie versus without.

Unless, of course, you're not basing this on data.
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Re: Poll: Which Celtics players need to go?
« Reply #17 on: November 21, 2018, 02:18:32 PM »

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Rozier and Yabusele for me so far.
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Re: Poll: Which Celtics players need to go?
« Reply #18 on: November 21, 2018, 03:34:51 PM »

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Quote from: droopdog7 on November 21, 2018, 01:47:39 PM
Quote from: td450 on November 21, 2018, 01:38:15 PM
Quote from: hpantazo on November 21, 2018, 10:33:25 AM
whoever chose Kyrie doesn't know much about basketball or is blinded by personal bias

I chose Kyrie.

He is a cold stone killer of a scorer, and below average at everything else. No one, and I mean no one, plays as well with him as without him.

I thought his situation with LeBron was perfect for him. LeBron let him be what he was, and he did all the difficult stuff to make it work.

What makes this team special is that it has Al Horford and 4 really good two way wings. We would be better off with a pass first point guard who can defend and make open shots, even if they weren't as good as Kyrie.
I assume you're basing this on data?  The bigger question is how well the team performs with Kyrie versus without.

Unless, of course, you're not basing this on data.

Yeah, I guess we go with 'blinded by personal bias' on this one.

Kyrie is playing great defense this season, and creating shots for everyone in addition to being an elite scorer. He's been doing everything at a high level, he's the only reason our record is not in the bottom quarter of the league right now.

He also bailed Lebron out in the playoffs many times. Without him Lebron gets no rings in Cleveland.
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Re: Poll: Which Celtics players need to go?
« Reply #19 on: November 21, 2018, 04:14:59 PM »

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Quote from: td450 on November 21, 2018, 01:38:15 PM
No one, and I mean no one, plays as well with him as without him.

This seems like one of those statements that is more of a "Feel Fact" than anything you've spent any kind of time researching.
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Re: Poll: Which Celtics players need to go?
« Reply #20 on: November 21, 2018, 05:40:21 PM »

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Yup some need to hit the road

too little return for the money spent.
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Re: Poll: Which Celtics players need to go?
« Reply #21 on: November 21, 2018, 05:44:23 PM »

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Quote from: SparzWizard on November 21, 2018, 02:18:32 PM
Rozier and Yabusele for me so far.

on my list too.
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Re: Poll: Which Celtics players need to go?
« Reply #22 on: November 21, 2018, 06:00:10 PM »

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Quote from: td450 on November 21, 2018, 01:38:15 PM
Quote from: hpantazo on November 21, 2018, 10:33:25 AM
whoever chose Kyrie doesn't know much about basketball or is blinded by personal bias

I chose Kyrie.

He is a cold stone killer of a scorer, and below average at everything else. No one, and I mean no one, plays as well with him as without him.

I thought his situation with LeBron was perfect for him. LeBron let him be what he was, and he did all the difficult stuff to make it work.

What makes this team special is that it has Al Horford and 4 really good two way wings. We would be better off with a pass first point guard who can defend and make open shots, even if they weren't as good as Kyrie.
Lol. This is a really weird take. By weird I mean very disagreeable
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Re: Poll: Which Celtics players need to go?
« Reply #23 on: November 21, 2018, 06:49:41 PM »

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Quote from: gouki88 on November 21, 2018, 06:00:10 PM
Quote from: td450 on November 21, 2018, 01:38:15 PM
Quote from: hpantazo on November 21, 2018, 10:33:25 AM
whoever chose Kyrie doesn't know much about basketball or is blinded by personal bias

I chose Kyrie.

He is a cold stone killer of a scorer, and below average at everything else. No one, and I mean no one, plays as well with him as without him.

I thought his situation with LeBron was perfect for him. LeBron let him be what he was, and he did all the difficult stuff to make it work.

What makes this team special is that it has Al Horford and 4 really good two way wings. We would be better off with a pass first point guard who can defend and make open shots, even if they weren't as good as Kyrie.
Lol. This is a really weird take. By weird I mean very disagreeable
Well, since several posters have taken the time to disagree, I guess you must be right. But it isn't weird. The other starters are not playing very well. We are running less, the offensive flow has slowed down, and the shot quality is down. We aren't as good a team, and the problems are predominantly with the offense.

It certainly isn't all his fault, but he is the point guard. He handles the ball more than anyone else, and these things are happening.

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Re: Poll: Which Celtics players need to go?
« Reply #24 on: November 21, 2018, 07:11:52 PM »

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I voted Keep everyone.
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Re: Poll: Which Celtics players need to go?
« Reply #25 on: November 24, 2018, 11:19:23 AM »

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All the Yabu votes are a little perplexing to me. I voted keep everyone but even if I was inclined to think someone has to go, I don't understand how trading someone who only plays garbage time is going to help the team.
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Re: Poll: Which Celtics players need to go?
« Reply #26 on: December 14, 2018, 02:45:25 PM »

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Should the consensus now be no one except Bird given the winning streak?  :P

Maybe Rozier's potential offers are being overestimated? 

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Re: Poll: Which Celtics players need to go?
« Reply #27 on: December 14, 2018, 02:49:14 PM »

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All the Yabu votes are a little perplexing to me. I voted keep everyone but even if I was inclined to think someone has to go, I don't understand how trading someone who only plays garbage time is going to help the team.

Because you could in theory replace him with someone useful that would play more.
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« Reply #28 on: December 14, 2018, 03:56:48 PM »

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Re: Poll: Which Celtics players need to go?
« Reply #29 on: December 15, 2018, 02:02:52 PM »

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All the Yabu votes are a little perplexing to me. I voted keep everyone but even if I was inclined to think someone has to go, I don't understand how trading someone who only plays garbage time is going to help the team.

Because you could in theory replace him with someone useful that would play more.

What player are the Celtics going to just add that's so good he's going to warrant minutes over the current rotation?
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