Is getting Fultz back to normal a better addition than Kyrie and Hayward?

[BringToughnessBack]

Whatever those fans are taking should be marketed to the masses. Delusion is alive and well in Philly.

In what world is Fultz greater then Hayward plus Kyrie combined? Not one based in reality.

[GratefulCs]

sports news (especially espn) is a lot like fox news


and the celtics (in this scenario) are like democrats



we get no credit

[ETNCeltics]

Because Sixers fan think so

We will be even better next year as of yet they have done nothing and have some talented guys who have serious flaws than you can scheme and beat soundly.

All they are demonstrating is how silly they are, I think we can beat them even if they get LBJ

Fultz getting his shot back means nothing , he had them, he lost them, as long as you don't solve that mental problem he will never be able to shoot

Once a player has the yips they are prone to it the rest of their lives.  Dud, I mean Fultz is not going to help them. 

This is tricky to answer because “as currently constructed” also includes Markelle Fultz. He’s the key to this answer. From all accounts via Drew Hanlan, Fultz is at least on the way back to regaining the skill and swagger that made him the #1 overall pick in 2017.

All he is recovering is the hype.   He was not a good enough college player to get his team to the NCAAs ditto for Simmons.   That indicates to me, that both of them lack some intangibles.  Both are talented but don't have grit.   That is not something that you can develop overnight either.   Fultz swagger is the glitter on basketball, shiny but not worth much on the court.  Of course, the guys here who had him as their draft binkie will love it.   But as I have said, there was a reason they hid the guy for half a season, it was happening in college, too.

You're short selling their talent.

I saw Simmons quite a bit at LSU, and much of the year, he really didn't try. He was there to be a one and done and get ready for the NBA draft. Makes no sense for a kid like that to go to college.

Same with Fultz, although he got banged up and missed a lot of time. The team around Fultz was so awful that nothing he could have done would have gotten them into the NIT, much less the NCAAT.

Simmons is a monster talent. Using him as a PG means they're severely hampered with a lack of outside shot. IMO, they need to find a combo guard who can not only run the offense part time, but also make open shots. Obviously, that's what they envisioned in Fultz, a seemingly perfect compliment to Simmons, and we were the beneficiary.

Fultz is also a major talent. Not to the degree Simmons is, but still could turn out to be a beast. Kudos to Ainge for identifying him as a headcase. But Fultz has big time ability and if he figures things out, the 6ers will be our main East rival for years to come.

[Spilling Green Dye]

This is hilarious for a lot of reasons, including that it apparently takes into account that JJ leaves.  JJ was the one I feared the most when he shot, and I'd be relieved if he leaves Philly.

[DefenseWinsChamps]

This is hilarious for a lot of reasons, including that it apparently takes into account that JJ leaves.  JJ was the one I feared the most when he shot, and I'd be relieved if he leaves Philly.

Yeah, they ran a lot of offense through JJ Reddick downscreens. In the half-court, they depended on him a lot.

If he goes (to the Lakers, for instance), they won't have a reliable shooter on their roster outside of Saric.

Meanwhile, the Celtics will have 4 guys flirting with 40/50/90 numbers next year.

[td450]

While comparing anything Fultz does to getting back Kyrie and Hayward is silly, he is one of the biggest variables in the NBA today.

He could be anything. It is possible he becomes an all-NBA player and it is possible he never becomes a consistent starter, so fans can project anything on to him they want. I'm guessing he never becomes a reliable star.

[gouki88]

This is hilarious for a lot of reasons, including that it apparently takes into account that JJ leaves.  JJ was the one I feared the most when he shot, and I'd be relieved if he leaves Philly.

Yeah, they ran a lot of offense through JJ Reddick downscreens. In the half-court, they depended on him a lot.

If he goes (to the Lakers, for instance), they won't have a reliable shooter on their roster outside of Saric.

Meanwhile, the Celtics will have 4 guys flirting with 40/50/90 numbers next year.

Pretty insane that we could be fielding a starting lineup of 5 guys shooting 38% from deep while Philly could only have 1

[BringToughnessBack]

On a pure current talent level right now for 2018:

Kyrie is better then Simmons
Brown is better then Fultz
Tatum and Embiid talent level is about equal in how they effect a game.
Then we have Hayward who is greater then anyone else on the Sixers team
Then we have Horford who is greater then anyone else on the Sixers team.
Smart is also greater then anyone else currently on the Sixers team
Remaining bench players better then Sixers Bench Players.
Our Coach is miles ahead of their coach

Even if Embiid and Simmons and even Fultz develop further(which they will), Brown and Tatum will also continue to develop and get better. Adding Kyrie and Hayward to our mix without a doubt puts us far ahead of where they are right now, in 2018.

[johnnygreen]

This is hilarious for a lot of reasons, including that it apparently takes into account that JJ leaves.  JJ was the one I feared the most when he shot, and I'd be relieved if he leaves Philly.

Yeah, they ran a lot of offense through JJ Reddick downscreens. In the half-court, they depended on him a lot.

If he goes (to the Lakers, for instance), they won't have a reliable shooter on their roster outside of Saric.

Meanwhile, the Celtics will have 4 guys flirting with 40/50/90 numbers next year.

Who are the 4 guys on the Celtics that will flirt with 40/50/90? I know Irving is in that category. I can see Hayward and Tatum putting themselves in that discussion. But who is the fourth? Brown and Horford aren't even close.

[DefenseWinsChamps]

This is hilarious for a lot of reasons, including that it apparently takes into account that JJ leaves.  JJ was the one I feared the most when he shot, and I'd be relieved if he leaves Philly.

Yeah, they ran a lot of offense through JJ Reddick downscreens. In the half-court, they depended on him a lot.

If he goes (to the Lakers, for instance), they won't have a reliable shooter on their roster outside of Saric.

Meanwhile, the Celtics will have 4 guys flirting with 40/50/90 numbers next year.

Who are the 4 guys on the Celtics that will flirt with 40/50/90? I know Irving is in that category. I can see Hayward and Tatum putting themselves in that discussion. But who is the fourth? Brown and Horford aren't even close.

Al was at 49/43/78 last year.

[Celtics4ever]

Same with Fultz, although he got banged up and missed a lot of time. The team around Fultz was so awful that nothing he could have done would have gotten them into the NIT, much less the NCAAT.

Fultz is also a major talent. Not to the degree Simmons is, but still could turn out to be a beast. Kudos to Ainge for identifying him as a headcase. But Fultz has big time ability and if he figures things out, the 6ers will be our main East rival for years to come.

They hid this guy for half a year so he would be drafted higher.   You don't do that unless their is something to hide.   I don't buy in the injury thing, I think his camp shut it down.   I suspect the shooting woes started then.    I don't blame the agent as his job is to maximize his client's money.  Don't even get me started on his shooting, which is horrible.

Also, great college players have led poor teams to do much.   Both of these guys were not NCAA bound because they have something missing in their intangible departments.    Their will to win is questionable.

  I saw Simmons quite a bit at LSU, and much of the year, he really didn't try. He was there to be a one and done and get ready for the NBA draft. Makes no sense for a kid like that to go to college.

Simmons is a monster talent. Using him as a PG means they're severely hampered with a lack of outside shot. IMO, they need to find a combo guard who can not only run the offense part time, but also make open shots. Obviously, that's what they envisioned in Fultz, a seemingly perfect compliment to Simmons, and we were the beneficiary.   

Watching the 76ers vs. us this year did you think Simmons cared?   I didn't.   As I said above he has something missing in his intangibles.    I agree, he is not a PG.    Even if he thinks that he is wrong.   But he can't shoot it very well.  BTW, most guards I know can shootside, but he still can't, it is normally part of their skillset.  But he lacks drive and passion.   Guys who don't care just rub me wrong.

They are both talented but both have some flaws. I am not in awe of them because I feel the 76ers great run happened when a lot of teams were tanking or did not care about position in the playoffs.     The media hype they got was exposed, and some of their players have been part of some tankfests and do they even know how to win?  We clobbered them without Irving and Hayward argubly their two best scorers.

Embiid is always hurt.  I think if they are not winning in a few years half of these guys will walk on them, and face it we are going to be a big hurdle in their way.   They whiffed on free agency this year, too for the most part.   Why do you think that is?

I think players saw us beat them without our best players and they know these guys are paper tigers.  We beat them 4-1, without our two studs.   Who were they missing?