Forsberg: Celtics Shouldn't Budge

[footey]

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/20489627/nba-why-boston-celtics-sweeten-deal-amid-stalemate-cleveland-cavaliers

Interesting to read his take: hard line in the sand.

[johnnygreen]

Thanks for the link...TP.

I found this particular line interesting..."Poor Thomas has unfairly been labeled as damaged goods throughout this process." Has Cleveland alienated Isaiah before he even steps foot on the practice court, never mind an actual game? Being traded by Boston would have been hard enough for Isaiah, who gave the Celtics everything he had. However, it must feel like another gut punch from his potentially new team, to drag this whole trade process out because their accusing him of being damaged goods. Hopefully this is a "damaged goods" rep that he can get rid of before hitting free agency next off-season. I like Isaiah and respect everything he did for the Celtics, and wish him nothing but the best going forward.

[Donoghus]

I agree.  For the "slippery slope" factor above all. 

Seems like dirty pool by CLE if some reports are to be believed.

[Rosco917]

Don't forget one thing, it benefits the Cavs to receive a Point Guard in any trade. By getting a PG, and one of the caliber of IT, no other changes are necessary for them to begin the season, other than waiting for IT to return supposedly around Dec.

If they deal for a wing or a center, other pieces need to be re-positioned for that team to flow, and still they'll need a PG. 

They may have us in an awkward position, but they'll also be in one if they nix this deal at this very late date. They may actually get less by pulling out of this deal from another team.

[azzenfrost]

Thanks for the link...TP.

I found this particular line interesting..."Poor Thomas has unfairly been labeled as damaged goods throughout this process." Has Cleveland alienated Isaiah before he even steps foot on the practice court, never mind an actual game? Being traded by Boston would have been hard enough for Isaiah, who gave the Celtics everything he had. However, it must feel like another gut punch from his potentially new team, to drag this whole trade process out because their accusing him of being damaged goods. Hopefully this is a "damaged goods" rep that he can get rid of before hitting free agency next off-season. I like Isaiah and respect everything he did for the Celtics, and wish him nothing but the best going forward.

Hmm...that's an excellent point. Also, by lowering the perceived value of IT due to the "damaged goods" being perpetuated, they're discouraging other teams from any deal with the C's involving IT.

[Fafnir]

I agree.  For the "slippery slope" factor above all. 

Seems like dirty pool by CLE if some reports are to be believed.

Yup. Someone signed off on the deal and had second thoughts after he got the detailed medical information. Given that I am confident that the GM was paying attention I am betting on Gilbert.

First a petty owner spikes a deal to send PG to the Cavs and gets garbage back in return from OKC and now this. The NBA is a trip.

[kozlodoev]

I agree.  For the "slippery slope" factor above all. 

Seems like dirty pool by CLE if some reports are to be believed.

Yup. Someone signed off on the deal and had second thoughts after he got the detailed medical information. Given that I am confident that the GM was paying attention I am betting on Gilbert.

First a petty owner spikes a deal to send PG to the Cavs and gets garbage back in return from OKC and now this. The NBA is a trip.

Which is perfectly fine. That's why the physical is there.

[CelticsElite]

"The NBA should be monitoring this situation with interest too, because the possibility of a team being encouraged by its trade partner to increase its offerings in the aftermath could be a slippery slope, setting a potentially uncomfortable precedent for future dealings."

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/20489627/nba-why-boston-celtics-sweeten-deal-amid-stalemate-cleveland-cavaliers

"Ainge actually has some experience in this sort of situation, albeit not to this extent. Back during the lockout in 2011, rumors persisted that the Celtics were exploring another All-Star point guard swap, this one centered around sending Rajon Rondo to New Orleans in exchange for then-Hornet Chris Paul.

After the lockout lifted, Ainge was forced to answer questions about how the team would smooth things over with Rondo.

"Rondo will be fine. Rondo knows that we love him. He's excited to come back and play basketball, in my opinion," Ainge said that winter. "He gets a lot of attention. He's a great player."

Rondo clearly was irked by having his name invoked in trade discussions, but it didn't affect his play. Rondo produced another All-Star season after the Paul rumors and, as Boston transitioned out of the most recent Big Three era, Rondo eventually emerged as team captain in Stevens' first season at the helm.

Players know the NBA is a rather emotionless business. While hard to imagine, Thomas and Crowder could eventually embrace Boston again."

[Sketch5]

I agree.  For the "slippery slope" factor above all. 

Seems like dirty pool by CLE if some reports are to be believed.

Yup. Someone signed off on the deal and had second thoughts after he got the detailed medical information. Given that I am confident that the GM was paying attention I am betting on Gilbert.

First a petty owner spikes a deal to send PG to the Cavs and gets garbage back in return from OKC and now this. The NBA is a trip.

Which is perfectly fine. That's why the physical is there.

Except that there are reports out saying that the Cavs saw nothing new from what Boston showed them.

It's almost like they are using the Bos trade to get more out of an other team. Which they shouldn't be able to talk to any other team while a trade is in progress. And if this is what is actually happening, the NBA needs to do something about it, or you're going to have players be dangled in trades just so an other team gets a better deal elsewhere. 

Also it's pretty loose. There should be something about a team has to have evidence that the physical wasn't up to what they wanted. Or prof that the other team wasn't giving all the facts. I mean there could be a player who is 100% healthy, but because they change their minds, it off. 

[hwangjini_1]

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/20489627/nba-why-boston-celtics-sweeten-deal-amid-stalemate-cleveland-cavaliers

Interesting to read his take: hard line in the sand.

nm

[mef730]

Where did this concept of giving them a protected first even originate? Are they nuts? Do they think that, by asking for Tatum, the Celtics will roll over for one of the top 30 picks and consider themselves lucky?

Seriously, at this point, I ready to tell them, "The most you are getting is our 2018 third round pick. Protected."

Mike

[greece66]

I agree.  For the "slippery slope" factor above all. 

Seems like dirty pool by CLE if some reports are to be believed.

Yup. Someone signed off on the deal and had second thoughts after he got the detailed medical information. Given that I am confident that the GM was paying attention I am betting on Gilbert.

First a petty owner spikes a deal to send PG to the Cavs and gets garbage back in return from OKC and now this. The NBA is a trip.

Which is perfectly fine. That's why the physical is there.

I'm with Kozlo here. Cavs are OK on that part.

The renegotiation that (allegedly) followed is not so OK though.

[TheBig3]

I agree.  For the "slippery slope" factor above all. 

Seems like dirty pool by CLE if some reports are to be believed.

Guessing after the trade was made the commish told Gilbert we can't fix it so you get number 1 again and he balked..:-)

[playdream]

I agree.  For the "slippery slope" factor above all. 

Seems like dirty pool by CLE if some reports are to be believed.

Yup. Someone signed off on the deal and had second thoughts after he got the detailed medical information. Given that I am confident that the GM was paying attention I am betting on Gilbert.

First a petty owner spikes a deal to send PG to the Cavs and gets garbage back in return from OKC and now this. The NBA is a trip.

Which is perfectly fine. That's why the physical is there.

I'm with Kozlo here. Cavs are OK on that part.

The renegotiation that (allegedly) followed is not so OK though.

Wow you are our of your mind

[SHAQATTACK]

Cavs could get a couple sorry picks , none top five and loose Irving for another hurt player and some questionable rookies .  Then loose LeWhine

There is no reason to let them extort Boston .....They have made alot of bad feelings acting like they do.

If im DA ..lim done talking wth those clowns

Give me my Marvin Bagley lottery ticket back ......i won't cry.