Future flexibility, or lack thereof (AD/KP)

[mrb617]

So I have many reservations about adding Gordon Hayward. One of them is this...

If AD/KP were to become available this year, how would be able to pull the trade off now?? We are struggling just to add Hayward's contract to the roster, I don't see how it would be possible to trade for AD/KP without adding Hayward's or Hortford's contract to the trade, which obv is not going to happen for many reasons..

This situation is obviously unlikely to happen year, but in the case where a top 5/10 guy becomes available I would have wanted for the Cs to have the flexibility needed to be able to pull it off, considering we have the most assets and would be the best team partner for any team wanting to trade a superstar.

[seancally]

If any superstar is on the block, any team hoping to pull off a trade would need to send the requisite amount in salary back. Signing Hayward doesn't mean we can't trade for a superstar - we can certainly still do so, particularly for a guy like porzingis who makes relatively little money net. I.e., we would have to send little money in player salaries back.

If you have several years' of studying available, here you go. Link jumps to the trades section.

http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q86

[KGBirdBias]

Dangle IT, Horford, Smart and the treasure trove of picks.

All isn't lost guys. AB could only play one position. Stevens has so much versatility and we are bigger, more skilled.

I hated losing AB...but we got a 20+ ppg scorer and All Star. Again, would you trade AB & KO for Hayward or Morris.

The stupid playoffs being such blowouts really got us by effecting the cap. UGH

[jambr380]

If AD becomes available, keeping Horford certainly becomes less of a certainty. He would be an easy contract match with our two picks next year. We could make it work with Crowder, Smart, Morris or room exception guy, as well.

Someone like Porzingis or another rookie contract guy is an easy match.

[BitterJim]

AD would almost certainly require us trading both Brown and Tatum.  That alone gives you $10.5 million in outgoing salary.  Throw in Crowder + Morris and you have ~$22 million outgoing, more than enough to match Davis' contract.  Heck, you could even take out one of Brown/Tatum and throw in Rozier (along with the 2018 Nets pick) if you wanted to.

Clearing cap space without giving up major assets and trading for a superstar are a lot different as far as what the FO would be willing to give up.

[JBcat]

I was actually going to start a thread on this very topic.

I think we can forget about trading for a star not on his rookie scale contract for a while.  We could barely squeeze enough salary between Crowder and Bradley for a potential Paul George trade. Both George and Butler with their lower level salaries are now off the table. 

With most star salaries being 20 mil plus we just can't match salaries.  We don't have that oversized Theo Ratliff contract to use in a trade.  If we could have I almost wish we re-signed Kelly on a short term oversized contract.

We can forget about Horford being part of a trade for a bigger star. 1 it won't be a good look for future potential free agents, and 2 we really need him in our thin frontcourt.  Maybe in the last year of his contract we can trade him.

So I don't know how we would aquire another star in the near future.  I think we missed the boat, and we won't look much better than we do now. 

[Mr October]

Ainge has always said that anyone is tradable. If AD is available we have all stars, young stars, and great picks ready.

I think Tatum is going to be an all star too. Our team is going t be really good next year. And it's going to keep getting better as these young studs develop.

[KGBirdBias]

I know one thing, we should be much more physical. When you have Smart, Horford, Zizic, Morris, Yabu and Crowder, I think Stevens wants to up the physicality of the team.

[Forza Juventus]

New Orleans won't trade Anthony Davis for several years anyway. He is under contract for 4 more years.

[Diggles]

So I have many reservations about adding Gordon Hayward. One of them is this...

If AD/KP were to become available this year, how would be able to pull the trade off now?? We are struggling just to add Hayward's contract to the roster, I don't see how it would be possible to trade for AD/KP without adding Hayward's or Hortford's contract to the trade, which obv is not going to happen for many reasons..

This situation is obviously unlikely to happen year, but in the case where a top 5/10 guy becomes available I would have wanted for the Cs to have the flexibility needed to be able to pull it off, considering we have the most assets and would be the best team partner for any team wanting to trade a superstar.
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So you rather us sign Kelly, keep Bradley and resign Amir. 

Dude don't worry about things that have not happened.  It's like paying intrest on a loan you have not gotten. 

[mrb617]

So I have many reservations about adding Gordon Hayward. One of them is this...

If AD/KP were to become available this year, how would be able to pull the trade off now?? We are struggling just to add Hayward's contract to the roster, I don't see how it would be possible to trade for AD/KP without adding Hayward's or Hortford's contract to the trade, which obv is not going to happen for many reasons..

This situation is obviously unlikely to happen year, but in the case where a top 5/10 guy becomes available I would have wanted for the Cs to have the flexibility needed to be able to pull it off, considering we have the most assets and would be the best team partner for any team wanting to trade a superstar.
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So you rather us sign Kelly, keep Bradley and resign Amir. 

Dude don't worry about things that have not happened.  It's like paying intrest on a loan you have not gotten. 

No I did not want to resign KO or Amir. And signing Gordon DID happen, thats why I am worried about this. There will be stars that become available, players better than Hayward, and now I am worried we will not be able to act

[SHAQATTACK]

I know one thing, we should be much more physical. When you have Smart, Horford, Zizic, Morris, Yabu and Crowder, I think Stevens wants to up the physicality of the team.

we have to.    Zeller and KO were scard to play inside and bang ......we just got punked in the paint nearly every night ,  with AB , Rozier and Smart doing rebounding....Amir with bad feet .. insane ......

I like the muscle we are adding with Zizic and Morris . plus Brown and Tatum can play above the rim .  ......we should give out a few bloody noses this year instead of being beat up.

[Boston Garden Leprechaun]

New Orleans won't trade Anthony Davis for several years anyway. He is under contract for 4 more years.

you do not know this. he has been there awhile already and could be tired of it. he could want out sooner than you think.