What's the Plan B?

[obnoxiousmime]

I'm starting to think targeting restricted players whose teams would be hard-pressed to match would be a good fallback plan. What about JaMychal Green and KCP at 3 yrs at 15 million/year? Bobby Marks on Lowe's podcast just said he doesn't think Memphis will match if Green gets 13/year. KCP could be insurance for Bradley who we all know is probably going to demand more. Or, you could sign KCP (who I know is not as good as Bradley right now) and trade Bradley.

Or, how about Rudy Gay (I know, I hate him but he can score) on a prove-it 1+1 deal? He'd be a stopgap for Tatum/Brown basically.

[Ilikesports17]

^if we could get Jamychal Green at 13/year I'd do it without blinking.

[Surferdad]

Not that I'm necessarily a fan of any of these, but:

FAs:
D. Gallinari
JaMychal Green
Patrick Patterson
Drying up fast....

Trade possibilities:
R. Anderson (in 3 way allowing Melo to go to Houston)
DeMarre Carrol (allows Toronto to reduce lux tax)
Likely others....

I'm guessing Tatum was the fireworks because that list is the cleanup duty after the show.

I think we can all agree that disappointment will be high if we don't land Hayward.
And, that the other options aren't great.

But, the reality is that, while not a great outcome, the future is still bright for the Cs. We will sign one or two FAs to the types of contracts that Amir had, which will bring in some talent and maintain flexibility. We then see who is available for trades during the season, or again next draft.

Can we give Ainge credit for that...please?  He has steadfastly maintained future flexibility for several years now.  Meantime several other teams have panicked and did things that tie them to boat anchors and without picks.

[Jvalin]

^if we could get Jamychal Green at 13/year I'd do it without blinking.

According to rumors, it's likely he is gonna get 20 million a year or something like that.

[celticinorlando]

I really think Ainge just resigns KO and that is it. They use the guys they have picked to replace Zeller, Yoiung, Green and Amir.

And they need to keep the picks. Don't trade for garbage and don't sign C tier free agents
 

[PhoSita]

At this point we're on something like Plan F.

No Butler, George, Griffin ... possibly no Hayward.


Plan F is make moves for short-term supporting players to supplement the "Bridge Core" (i.e. Thomas, Bradley, Crowder, Horford) and try to develop the "Future Core" (i.e. Smart, Rozier, Brown, Tatum, Zizic etc) without sacrificing playoff seeding.


The ceiling on Plan F is what the Celts accomplished in 2016-2017 for the next few years.  Once IT and Horford are ready to move on and the "Future Core" has come of age, maybe Ainge tries to make a move to contend again.  Or maybe he just flips everybody for future assets and leaves it for Austin to figure out after he retires.

[Surferdad]

I really think Ainge just resigns KO and that is it. They use the guys they have picked to replace Zeller, Yoiung, Green and Amir.

And they need to keep the picks. Don't trade for garbage and don't sign C tier free agents

This could well be the way it turns out.  If so, I really want to see a stand-out year from one or more of these guys:
Jaylen Brown, Jayson Tatum, Ante Zizic, Abdul Nader, Semi Ojeleye

I think the odds are pretty good and it will make this upcoming season a worthwhile watch.  It will also prove that DA can draft well.

Then, if things fall right, we can look forward to 2 top-5 picks next summer.

That's an outcome that will give me a lot of hope for the future.

[ThePaintedArea]

Not that I'm necessarily a fan of any of these, but:

FAs:
D. Gallinari
JaMychal Green
Patrick Patterson
Drying up fast....

Trade possibilities:
R. Anderson (in 3 way allowing Melo to go to Houston)
DeMarre Carrol (allows Toronto to reduce lux tax)
Likely others....

I'm guessing Tatum was the fireworks because that list is the cleanup duty after the show.

I think we can all agree that disappointment will be high if we don't land Hayward.
And, that the other options aren't great.

But, the reality is that, while not a great outcome, the future is still bright for the Cs. We will sign one or two FAs to the types of contracts that Amir had, which will bring in some talent and maintain flexibility. We then see who is available for trades during the season, or again next draft.

Can we give Ainge credit for that...please?  He has steadfastly maintained future flexibility for several years now.  Meantime several other teams have panicked and did things that tie them to boat anchors and without picks.

I hear the voice of Reason.

This is the hardest part of the cycle, the high-wire act where you try to balance having both star talent and depth at a price you can afford - and if at all possible sustain those over multiple seasons.  And if you make the right moves, even then you need some luck.

That sure was a nifty move by Danny Ainge getting the player they wanted in the draft AND another chance at a top-five pick next time around - luck is definitely in there, but he doubled their chances. 

With the Lakers looking a lot like Brooklyn West right now...

[Surferdad]

At this point we're on something like Plan F.

No Butler, George, Griffin ... possibly no Hayward.


Plan F is make moves for short-term supporting players to supplement the "Bridge Core" (i.e. Thomas, Bradley, Crowder, Horford) and try to develop the "Future Core" (i.e. Smart, Rozier, Brown, Tatum, Zizic etc) without sacrificing playoff seeding.


The ceiling on Plan F is what the Celts accomplished in 2016-2017 for the next few years.  Once IT and Horford are ready to move on and the "Future Core" has come of age, maybe Ainge tries to make a move to contend again.  Or maybe he just flips everybody for future assets and leaves it for Austin to figure out after he retires.

TP, couple things to like in this post.

First of all, THANK-YOU for saying we are on like Plan E or F now. hwangjini_1 didn't get that.

Secondly, the Bridge Core, as you call it, is just that.  Pretty clear that group (even with Hayward) is/was not winning a championship.  GS/CLE should be expected to dominate for a couple more years.  LeBron had one of his best playoff runs ever.  GS is still pretty young.

The Future Core is actually not that far off.  A year from now we will be glowing with our 2 top-5 gems to add to Tatum, Brown plus a couple of surprise breakout players such as one or more from Zizic, Ojeleye, Nader, Theis, Yabusele.

[Sophomore]

^if we could get Jamychal Green at 13/year I'd do it without blinking.

According to rumors, it's likely he is gonna get 20 million a year or something like that.

If Ibaka's deal sets the market, that would be the neighborhood. He just signed for $65 mill over three years.

Ibaka's production last year was better than JMG, but not miles better. On 30.7 minutes/game he collected 14.8 points and 6.8 boards, shooting 39.1% from 3. JaMychal gave the Grizzlies a27.3 minutes/game, 8.9 points and 7.1 rebounds, shooting 37.9% from 3. A bit less scoring, on fewer minutes, but better rebounding. I haven't watched much of their play, but I've heard, and it passes the eye test, that JMG is a more active, quicker body on defense and a better defender on the perimeter.

JaMychal is also a bigger risk - he's only really been at this level about a year. Net, though, I can see a team offering him a contract somewhere in the teens, or maybe a bigger number on a shorter term, to see if he can prove this year wasn't a fluke.

[Birdman]

Ainge got all these past picks that should be able to play (Ante, Yas, Nadel).plus this year picks...plus got boatloads of picks next couple of years..so let see if they can produce or not...But on my short list would be Rudy Gay and Pat Patterson

[celticinorlando]

Would like to see them add a big. Someone who can rebound and defend. But I would rather see Nader, Yabu and Semi make the squad over some scrap heap wings.

[Yoki_IsTheName]

How about B as in blow it up.

This should have been the summer that we would have formed a superteam. We passed on players and the #1 pick to make room and do moves, and if GH doesn't sign, that's a fail.

So what's the need in keeping IT and Horford here when there isnt any other players available that can push us even further? Why waste money signing players that won move the needle, just for the sake of filling up that cap room?

Just blow it up. Give the young guys the reigns. Tank to have a much more better chance at Porter/Ayton/Bamba/Doncic. Collect more assets (somewhere Danny is smiling).

If we miss out on a key FA, what's the point of running it back?