Lookback on Fultz Trade

[vjcsmoke]

Tatum also projects to be an elite scorer but at the wing position.  Fultz is a much better passer than Tatum though, but that's kind of expected since he plays PG.  I'd have to give the edge to Fultz though because a scoring PG is more valuable than a scoring wing in today's NBA IMO.

But Celtics were obviously going for fit and opted for the scoring wing.  I hope they made the right decision and we end up with a top 5 pick next year.  Because if we get Bamba or Ayton with that pick, that takes a LOT of the sting out of the trade down.

[tankcity!]

I agree that it is too early to make a judgement on the trade, however my main point was that when we made this trade, we weren't excactly rebuilding. The plan was to stay competitive and have our young guys grow in a really strong culture. However, we have not done so well thus far and next year we could possibly be taking a step back due to the expired contracts we have upcoming.

This is why the Hayward signing has become so important. We don't have a young core like Philly so we need good veteran stars as well. Does that make sense?

I'm just saying IF Fultz turns out to be great, they will be our competition in 2020, not GS

[hwangjini_1]

Given that this exact topic was argued, debated, hashed over, and then rehashed in depth and at length only a few weeks ago, perhaps we could hold off on this until after the season?

At least then we would have some real information for our discussions, instead of simply revisiting past laments.

[MBunge]

I agree that it is too early to make a judgement on the trade, however my main point was that when we made this trade, we weren't excactly rebuilding. The plan was to stay competitive and have our young guys grow in a really strong culture. However, we have not done so well thus far and next year we could possibly be taking a step back due to the expired contracts we have upcoming.

This is why the Hayward signing has become so important. We don't have a young core like Philly so we need good veteran stars as well. Does that make sense?

I'm just saying IF Fultz turns out to be great, they will be our competition in 2020, not GS

They would still be our competition if they picked Tatum and he turned out great.

This is why it sucks to be a GM.  The Fultz deal is high risk, high reward and Ainge gets slammed for it.  The George deal would have been just as high risk, high reward and people act like it was a no-brainer.

Mike

[Celtics18]

I agree that it is too early to make a judgement on the trade, however my main point was that when we made this trade, we weren't excactly rebuilding. The plan was to stay competitive and have our young guys grow in a really strong culture. However, we have not done so well thus far and next year we could possibly be taking a step back due to the expired contracts we have upcoming.

This is why the Hayward signing has become so important. We don't have a young core like Philly so we need good veteran stars as well. Does that make sense?

I'm just saying IF Fultz turns out to be great, they will be our competition in 2020, not GS

Smart, Rozier, Brown, Tatum, Olynyk.  Plus multiple likely lottery picks in the upcoming drafts for a team that is the second best in the East.

We are in great shape!

[droopdog7]

All this topic is non-sense if we accept that Ainge thinks Tatum is in the same (or higher) tier  as Fultz.

If Tatum's qualities > Fultz's, the deal is a  fantastic one.
If Tatum's qualities = Fultz's, the deal is still fantastic.
If Tatum's qualities are a little smaller than Fultz, the deal is a very reasonable low risk, high reward one. Let's suppose we are getting a 1st year Paul Pierce and PHI is getting a 1st year Kobe. We would still get a franchise player plus a reasonable shot at another one. Neither Kobe nor Pierce could win it all without other stars around them.

You can accept that Ainge thinks that and completely disagree with him.

Fultz just looked straight up better. More versatile scorer with an elite skill (PNR playmaking) tailor made for today's NBA, bigger for his position, better passer.

The case for Tatum basically boils down to shooting FTs better, shooting better in workouts and being bigger.

There are a few more things to add to tatum's case:

-Apparently the not winning thing is significant to some.
-Fultz appears to have some Michael Beasley in him.  Just looks dazed and disinterested.  Tatum on the other end of the spectrum in this regard.
-Fultz doesn't look explosive at all.  Fair to question how his game will translate to the nba.