Ian Mahinmi

[CelticSooner]

Last night while looking at Washington's contract situation I had no idea that they gave this guy a 4 year $64 million dollar deal. Why would they do this? Was Grunfeld just feeling generous after not getting a meeting with Durant? That contract really screws up their flexibility. He had one decent season and may as well been wearing green in this series. Man did he suck.

[NHCelticsFan]

I think this is more a reflection of the sudden spike in cap. Every team had money to spend so guys were getting big deals, and I think a lot of those teams are going to be regretting it in a year or two (if they aren't already).

The owners (and I think the league as well) wanted a cap smoothing that would gradually increase the money teams had over several seasons, but the players wanted the immediate jump.

Imagine if the cap didn't skyrocket like it did?  The Celtics would have been one of the few teams with large cap space and those Nets picks would have been even more valuable.

I agree with you though 100% that Mahinmi's contract is terrible though.

[Phantom255x]

It's about as bad as the likes of Noah, Mozgov, etc.

But it wouldn't surprise me if some team gave Kelly Olynyk a similar offer, especially after last night's performance.

It only took like 2 great Biyombo games to net him around 70M lol.

[liam]

Danny didn't give out any terrible contracts or make any panic trades.

[saltlover]

It's about as bad as the likes of Noah, Mozgov, etc.

But it wouldn't surprise me if some team gave Kelly Olynyk a similar offer, especially after last night's performance.

It only took like 2 great Biyombo games to net him around 70M lol.

It would surprise me.  There are a lot of bad contracts out there right now, and those wasted dollars have a) taken money out of the free agent pool, and b) created many shining examples of bad contracts, and the troubles they cause.  Most of the teams that do dumb things don't have the opportunity this year to make the mistake, because of their cap position.  Smart teams will go after Olynyk, but will also stick to their limits for him.

[chilidawg]

Mahinmi was very effective last year for Indy, that's why he got such a big contract.  He was hurt much of the year this year and never regained his form from last year.  I wouldn't write him off just yet.

[tazzmaniac]

Last night while looking at Washington's contract situation I had no idea that they gave this guy a 4 year $64 million dollar deal. Why would they do this? Was Grunfeld just feeling generous after not getting a meeting with Durant? That contract really screws up their flexibility. He had one decent season and may as well been wearing green in this series. Man did he suck.

Abject stupidity but they are not alone.  Lakers: Mozgov and Deng, Blazers: Turner and Crabbe,  Orlando: Biyombo.  People compare GMs based on trades or draft picks but cap space management is at least as important. 

[saltlover]

Last night while looking at Washington's contract situation I had no idea that they gave this guy a 4 year $64 million dollar deal. Why would they do this? Was Grunfeld just feeling generous after not getting a meeting with Durant? That contract really screws up their flexibility. He had one decent season and may as well been wearing green in this series. Man did he suck.

Abject stupidity but they are not alone.  Lakers: Mozgov and Deng, Blazers: Turner and Crabbe,  Orlando: Biyombo.  People compare GMs based on trades or draft picks but cap space management is at least as important.

For what it's worth, I don't think Crabbe was a terrible sign.  He's young and might be capable of being a third banana in the long run.  Like in the Bradley signing, that contract in part reflects what they (and Brooklyn, who's offer sheet they matched), hope he becomes.  All the others, yes.

[tazzmaniac]

Mahinmi was very effective last year for Indy, that's why he got such a big contract.  He was hurt much of the year this year and never regained his form from last year.  I wouldn't write him off just yet.

Mahinmi is 30 and his very effective year amounted to 9.3pts, 7.1reb and 1.1blk in 25.6mpg.  You shouldn't tie up 4yr/64mil in a player like that.   

[jpotter33]

Mahinmi was very effective last year for Indy, that's why he got such a big contract.  He was hurt much of the year this year and never regained his form from last year.  I wouldn't write him off just yet.

Mahinmi is 30 and his very effective year amounted to 9.3pts, 7.1reb and 1.1blk in 25.6mpg.  You shouldn't tie up 4yr/64mil in a player like that.

Iirc, that contract was essentially a desperation move after they missed out on Horford.

[csfansince60s]

Last night while looking at Washington's contract situation I had no idea that they gave this guy a 4 year $64 million dollar deal. Why would they do this? Was Grunfeld just feeling generous after not getting a meeting with Durant? That contract really screws up their flexibility. He had one decent season and may as well been wearing green in this series. Man did he suck.

Abject stupidity but they are not alone.  Lakers: Mozgov and Deng, Blazers: Turner and Crabbe,  Orlando: Biyombo.  People compare GMs based on trades or draft picks but cap space management is at least as important.

Knicks, Noah>>>albatross....way to go Phil

[CelticSooner]

Mahinmi was very effective last year for Indy, that's why he got such a big contract.  He was hurt much of the year this year and never regained his form from last year.  I wouldn't write him off just yet.

Mahinmi is 30 and his very effective year amounted to 9.3pts, 7.1reb and 1.1blk in 25.6mpg.  You shouldn't tie up 4yr/64mil in a player like that.

Iirc, that contract was essentially a desperation move after they missed out on Horford.

Washington fans don't like their GM. 

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/245865/Al-Horford-Biggest-Thing-Was-Danny-Ainge-In-Picking-Celtics

[tazzmaniac]

Last night while looking at Washington's contract situation I had no idea that they gave this guy a 4 year $64 million dollar deal. Why would they do this? Was Grunfeld just feeling generous after not getting a meeting with Durant? That contract really screws up their flexibility. He had one decent season and may as well been wearing green in this series. Man did he suck.

Abject stupidity but they are not alone.  Lakers: Mozgov and Deng, Blazers: Turner and Crabbe,  Orlando: Biyombo.  People compare GMs based on trades or draft picks but cap space management is at least as important.

For what it's worth, I don't think Crabbe was a terrible sign.  He's young and might be capable of being a third banana in the long run.  Like in the Bradley signing, that contract in part reflects what they (and Brooklyn, who's offer sheet they matched), hope he becomes.  All the others, yes.

Crabbe doesn't bring anything to the table besides his 3 point shooting.  Considering they have Lillard and McCollum locked up, paying Crabbe 4yr/75M to be a backup was a bad decision.   Their GM compounded that poor decision by also paying Turner big bucks to be a backup.  They've locked themselves into long term mediocrity.  In 2019/20, they'll be paying 6 players (Lillard, McCollum, Crabbe, Turner, Leonard and Harkless) over 116M. 

[tazzmaniac]

Mahinmi was very effective last year for Indy, that's why he got such a big contract.  He was hurt much of the year this year and never regained his form from last year.  I wouldn't write him off just yet.

Mahinmi is 30 and his very effective year amounted to 9.3pts, 7.1reb and 1.1blk in 25.6mpg.  You shouldn't tie up 4yr/64mil in a player like that.

Iirc, that contract was essentially a desperation move after they missed out on Horford.

The same with the Lakers signing Mozgov when they missed out on the big name free agents.  If you're making a desperation move, it in all likelihood won't turn out well.