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Re: IT4 vs Pierce - Who is the better scorer?
« Reply #15 on: December 31, 2016, 10:42:53 AM »

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Re: IT4 vs Pierce - Who is the better scorer?
« Reply #16 on: December 31, 2016, 11:06:34 AM »

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Pierce.  He had the complete game.

Re: IT4 vs Pierce - Who is the better scorer?
« Reply #17 on: December 31, 2016, 12:15:02 PM »

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Pierce.

The age 27 comparison is kind of unfair as it was one of Pierce's lower scoring outputs of his prime, while it's easily isaiahs best.

Also Paul was so versatile.

It actually gives IT the advantage...heck he is just about to enter his prime whereas PP at the same age is jus as good but scoring less...so IMO. At same age barring height and overall versatility then by far IT is the better scorer. Lets remember that PP never averaged 27ppg in his career even during the years he was by his lonesome without KG and Allen.

Re: IT4 vs Pierce - Who is the better scorer?
« Reply #18 on: December 31, 2016, 12:22:28 PM »

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Pierce.

The age 27 comparison is kind of unfair as it was one of Pierce's lower scoring outputs of his prime, while it's easily isaiahs best.

Also Paul was so versatile.

It actually gives IT the advantage...heck he is just about to enter his prime whereas PP at the same age is jus as good but scoring less...so IMO. At same age barring height and overall versatility then by far IT is the better scorer. Lets remember that PP never averaged 27ppg in his career even during the years he was by his lonesome without KG and Allen.
Neither has Isaiah. Hes averaged 27.7 through 30 games. His previous career highs are 22 and 20. At that age Pierce had already logged 25, 26, 26 and 23 ppg seasons and would average 27 the next season.

Isaiah will have to score like this for like 4 more years before we call him Paul Pierce.

Re: IT4 vs Pierce - Who is the better scorer?
« Reply #19 on: December 31, 2016, 12:34:03 PM »

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Pierce.

The age 27 comparison is kind of unfair as it was one of Pierce's lower scoring outputs of his prime, while it's easily isaiahs best.

Also Paul was so versatile.

It actually gives IT the advantage...heck he is just about to enter his prime whereas PP at the same age is jus as good but scoring less...so IMO. At same age barring height and overall versatility then by far IT is the better scorer. Lets remember that PP never averaged 27ppg in his career even during the years he was by his lonesome without KG and Allen.
Neither has Isaiah. Hes averaged 27.7 through 30 games. His previous career highs are 22 and 20. At that age Pierce had already logged 25, 26, 26 and 23 ppg seasons and would average 27 the next season.

Isaiah will have to score like this for like 4 more years before we call him Paul Pierce.

Why 4?

Last season he scored over 20ppg. And he had  several other good ppg seasons

Its actually interesting how similar both guys did their damage as scorers. Both are not highly efficient 3 point shooters but can on ridiculous streaks without missing. Both get to the ft line alot. 

Re: IT4 vs Pierce - Who is the better scorer?
« Reply #20 on: December 31, 2016, 12:48:26 PM »

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Pierce but what IT does is amazing given his height.

Re: IT4 vs Pierce - Who is the better scorer?
« Reply #21 on: December 31, 2016, 12:51:02 PM »

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Pierce.

The age 27 comparison is kind of unfair as it was one of Pierce's lower scoring outputs of his prime, while it's easily isaiahs best.

Also Paul was so versatile.

It actually gives IT the advantage...heck he is just about to enter his prime whereas PP at the same age is jus as good but scoring less...so IMO. At same age barring height and overall versatility then by far IT is the better scorer. Lets remember that PP never averaged 27ppg in his career even during the years he was by his lonesome without KG and Allen.
Neither has Isaiah. Hes averaged 27.7 through 30 games. His previous career highs are 22 and 20. At that age Pierce had already logged 25, 26, 26 and 23 ppg seasons and would average 27 the next season.

Isaiah will have to score like this for like 4 more years before we call him Paul Pierce.

Why 4?

Last season he scored over 20ppg. And he had  several other good ppg seasons

Its actually interesting how similar both guys did their damage as scorers. Both are not highly efficient 3 point shooters but can on ridiculous streaks without missing. Both get to the ft line alot.
Hes been a really good scorer his whole career but hes only been a great scorer for 30 games. Pierce was one for years.

Isaiah needs to be a great scorer for years before I would start putting him in there with Paul Pierce in terms of scoring.

Re: IT4 vs Pierce - Who is the better scorer?
« Reply #22 on: December 31, 2016, 12:52:23 PM »

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Pierce.

The age 27 comparison is kind of unfair as it was one of Pierce's lower scoring outputs of his prime, while it's easily isaiahs best.

Also Paul was so versatile.

It actually gives IT the advantage...heck he is just about to enter his prime whereas PP at the same age is jus as good but scoring less...so IMO. At same age barring height and overall versatility then by far IT is the better scorer. Lets remember that PP never averaged 27ppg in his career even during the years he was by his lonesome without KG and Allen.
Neither has Isaiah. Hes averaged 27.7 through 30 games. His previous career highs are 22 and 20. At that age Pierce had already logged 25, 26, 26 and 23 ppg seasons and would average 27 the next season.

Isaiah will have to score like this for like 4 more years before we call him Paul Pierce.

Why 4?

Last season he scored over 20ppg. And he had  several other good ppg seasons

Its actually interesting how similar both guys did their damage as scorers. Both are not highly efficient 3 point shooters but can on ridiculous streaks without missing. Both get to the ft line alot.
I picked 4 because Pierce topped 25 4 times. Isaiah is gonna have to prove he can do this type of scoring for a full season. If hes still putting up 27 at the end of the year. Lets reopen the convo.

Re: IT4 vs Pierce - Who is the better scorer?
« Reply #23 on: December 31, 2016, 12:53:06 PM »

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Probably Pierce is better as his competition was tougher and he did more things. But IT is still great. A serious weapon for today's style of basketball.

Re: IT4 vs Pierce - Who is the better scorer?
« Reply #24 on: December 31, 2016, 01:05:07 PM »

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Pierce.

The age 27 comparison is kind of unfair as it was one of Pierce's lower scoring outputs of his prime, while it's easily isaiahs best.

Also Paul was so versatile.

It actually gives IT the advantage...heck he is just about to enter his prime whereas PP at the same age is jus as good but scoring less...so IMO. At same age barring height and overall versatility then by far IT is the better scorer. Lets remember that PP never averaged 27ppg in his career even during the years he was by his lonesome without KG and Allen.
Neither has Isaiah. Hes averaged 27.7 through 30 games. His previous career highs are 22 and 20. At that age Pierce had already logged 25, 26, 26 and 23 ppg seasons and would average 27 the next season.

Isaiah will have to score like this for like 4 more years before we call him Paul Pierce.

Why 4?

Last season he scored over 20ppg. And he had  several other good ppg seasons

Its actually interesting how similar both guys did their damage as scorers. Both are not highly efficient 3 point shooters but can on ridiculous streaks without missing. Both get to the ft line alot.
I picked 4 because Pierce topped 25 4 times. Isaiah is gonna have to prove he can do this type of scoring for a full season. If hes still putting up 27 at the end of the year. Lets reopen the convo.

I dont think 24ppg vs 26ppg matters
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Re: IT4 vs Pierce - Who is the better scorer?
« Reply #25 on: December 31, 2016, 01:28:50 PM »

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Pierce.

The age 27 comparison is kind of unfair as it was one of Pierce's lower scoring outputs of his prime, while it's easily isaiahs best.

Also Paul was so versatile.

Yeah, Pierce had better seasons both before and after his age 27 season.  2003-04 & 2004-05 were his two worst years of his prime.

Look at Pierce's 2001-02 & 2005-06 seasons, those were his two best in terms of scoring output.  Even in Pierce's best two season he only attempted 6.3 and 4.0 3PA per game.  Thomas is attempting 7+ this year.  Had Pierce been encouraged to shoot the three more, like in today's NBA, he probably scores a few more points per game.

The game is also played at a faster pace today than in the early 2000's.  Scoring is up throughout the entire league.

Thomas is a comparable scorer, but I give the edge to Pierce.

Re: IT4 vs Pierce - Who is the better scorer?
« Reply #26 on: December 31, 2016, 01:48:55 PM »

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I think IT is more dangerous on his best nights, but Piercewas a far more reliable and versatile scorer. On the nights where IT's jumper isn't falling he might still be able to score, but not at Pierce's level. Pierce could shoot more consistently and also had more ways to beat defenders, so if the jumper wasn't falling for him, I had more confidence in his game.

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« Reply #27 on: December 31, 2016, 02:00:25 PM »

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If Pierce had the usage rate IT has this season the scoring number might look more similar.  And if  Pierce had equal number of shots with the same ratio for 2pt to 3pt shots. Ultimately this comparison says they are different players

Re: IT4 vs Pierce - Who is the better scorer?
« Reply #28 on: December 31, 2016, 02:13:07 PM »

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The age 27 comparison is kind of unfair as it was one of Pierce's lower scoring outputs of his prime, while it's easily isaiahs best.

Also Paul was so versatile.

I just picked his season with the highest TS% pre-big 3. It just happened to also be his age-27 season as well.
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Re: IT4 vs Pierce - Who is the better scorer?
« Reply #29 on: December 31, 2016, 02:31:31 PM »

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Pierce. I love IT but Pierce scored more points in a greater variety of ways. And Pierce played in a slower era with more one-on-one defense. I think Pierce would've been fine or even more effective in today's game. IT would likely have struggled to find the open lanes he enjoys now, 15 years ago.

What's amazing about both, is their ability to get to the free throw line. That's a great measure of just how unstoppable they both are/were.
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