Avery Bradley would be an ideal fit for the 76'ers

[GratefulCs]

Trading inside your conference used to be thought of as a universally bad idea.

Too bad we traded Pierce and Garnett to our division rivals.  That really came back to haunt us.

they were on the back 9 though

[action781]

It would be an ideal fit for the 76ers.  (Someone duly noted that Bradley is a great fit on many teams.)  IMO, TOO much of a fit really for a team that looks like to be a decade-long threat to the Celtics, so I would not do that trade.

[Smitty77]

Bradley is an ideal fit for most teams.  He's 1st team all-defense and has been a borderline all-star this season offensively.  Very efficient shooter.  Probably my favorite player on the Celtics right now.

This trade makes sense though.  I think Philly would do it, though I think saric might have a brighter future than a lot of people here give him credit for.  He's on a par with Marcus smart as a prospect at this point.  Maybe a little better, because he could still reasonably improve and smart has had 2 and a half disappointing seasons. 

It makes sense for Boston big picture for a few reasons. #1 - We are desperate for rim protection so noel fits that immediate need.  #2 - We more than likely are ending up with a guard in this draft who should immediately be our best prospect by far.  He will need minutes.  A guard will need to go or we will be looking at a Phillyesque log jam.  My preference is moving smart, but it's doubtful anyone wants him.   #3 - losing Bradley's salary counters the Noel cap hold which I think is 8 or 11 mil (too lazy to look it up), but if what I remember of the math this would allow us to still target a max contract player like Hayward this offseason before extending Noel.  On that note, you might need to let Olynyk walk to have max cap room - so Dario saric could presumably fill his role next season.

I don't think it will happen, but it's a rare trade idea that makes some sense.  There will be fans from both sides that hate this idea... which is usually a sign it is reasonably close value.   I'd really dislike giving up Bradley but big picture it would be a logical move.

First, Saric is the SAME AGE as Smart and he is NOT anywhere near "on par" with Smart.  Saric is rated last (94th) in RPM at his PF position!!!  He is 92 out of 94 in defensive RPM!!  Meanwhile, Smart is 18th overall and 8th in defensive RPM at his position.

Also, Smart even has a higher PER at 11.4 than Saric's 10.2.

You imply that Saric is MORE likely to improve.  They are the SAME age and Saric was playing professionally overseas since 2012.

Your bias towards anything wearing red, white, and blue over those wearing green is getting ridiculous LarBrd!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Smitty77

[Celtics4ever]

Too bad we traded Pierce and Garnett to our division rivals.  That really came back to haunt us.

It's a different thing to get assets to rebuild, than giving an asset to a team that moving up that you will playing in future long term.  Isn't it?   

Can't you see the difference, we would be playing Embiid and Bradley and Simmons for years to come.   You would get fired as a GM, for making the 76ers a better team in a few years after that move.

[LarBrd33]

Bradley is an ideal fit for most teams.  He's 1st team all-defense and has been a borderline all-star this season offensively.  Very efficient shooter.  Probably my favorite player on the Celtics right now.

This trade makes sense though.  I think Philly would do it, though I think saric might have a brighter future than a lot of people here give him credit for.  He's on a par with Marcus smart as a prospect at this point.  Maybe a little better, because he could still reasonably improve and smart has had 2 and a half disappointing seasons. 

It makes sense for Boston big picture for a few reasons. #1 - We are desperate for rim protection so noel fits that immediate need.  #2 - We more than likely are ending up with a guard in this draft who should immediately be our best prospect by far.  He will need minutes.  A guard will need to go or we will be looking at a Phillyesque log jam.  My preference is moving smart, but it's doubtful anyone wants him.   #3 - losing Bradley's salary counters the Noel cap hold which I think is 8 or 11 mil (too lazy to look it up), but if what I remember of the math this would allow us to still target a max contract player like Hayward this offseason before extending Noel.  On that note, you might need to let Olynyk walk to have max cap room - so Dario saric could presumably fill his role next season.

I don't think it will happen, but it's a rare trade idea that makes some sense.  There will be fans from both sides that hate this idea... which is usually a sign it is reasonably close value.   I'd really dislike giving up Bradley but big picture it would be a logical move.

First, Saric is the SAME AGE as Smart and he is NOT anywhere near "on par" with Smart.  Saric is rated last (94th) in RPM at his PF position!!!  He is 92 out of 94 in defensive RPM!!  Meanwhile, Smart is 18th overall and 8th in defensive RPM at his position.

Also, Smart even has a higher PER at 11.4 than Saric's 10.2.

You imply that Saric is MORE likely to improve.  They are the SAME age and Saric was playing professionally overseas since 2012.

Your bias towards anything wearing red, white, and blue over those wearing green is getting ridiculous LarBrd!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Smitty77

Saric does a ton of things that don't show up on the stat sheet.  I've been keeping a stat of the the things players do that don't show up on stat sheets.  By my count, Saric has more than Smart.

Also, Saric could still reasonably improve.  He's still adjusting to the NBA game.  Smart has been in the league for 2.5 years after playing college basketball in the United States for two years.  Different situations. 

Equal prospects.

[Bucketgetter]

Bradley is an ideal fit for most teams.  He's 1st team all-defense and has been a borderline all-star this season offensively.  Very efficient shooter.  Probably my favorite player on the Celtics right now.

This trade makes sense though.  I think Philly would do it, though I think saric might have a brighter future than a lot of people here give him credit for.  He's on a par with Marcus smart as a prospect at this point.  Maybe a little better, because he could still reasonably improve and smart has had 2 and a half disappointing seasons. 

It makes sense for Boston big picture for a few reasons. #1 - We are desperate for rim protection so noel fits that immediate need.  #2 - We more than likely are ending up with a guard in this draft who should immediately be our best prospect by far.  He will need minutes.  A guard will need to go or we will be looking at a Phillyesque log jam.  My preference is moving smart, but it's doubtful anyone wants him.   #3 - losing Bradley's salary counters the Noel cap hold which I think is 8 or 11 mil (too lazy to look it up), but if what I remember of the math this would allow us to still target a max contract player like Hayward this offseason before extending Noel.  On that note, you might need to let Olynyk walk to have max cap room - so Dario saric could presumably fill his role next season.

I don't think it will happen, but it's a rare trade idea that makes some sense.  There will be fans from both sides that hate this idea... which is usually a sign it is reasonably close value.   I'd really dislike giving up Bradley but big picture it would be a logical move.

First, Saric is the SAME AGE as Smart and he is NOT anywhere near "on par" with Smart.  Saric is rated last (94th) in RPM at his PF position!!!  He is 92 out of 94 in defensive RPM!!  Meanwhile, Smart is 18th overall and 8th in defensive RPM at his position.

Also, Smart even has a higher PER at 11.4 than Saric's 10.2.

You imply that Saric is MORE likely to improve.  They are the SAME age and Saric was playing professionally overseas since 2012.

Your bias towards anything wearing red, white, and blue over those wearing green is getting ridiculous LarBrd!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Smitty77

Saric does a ton of things that don't show up on the stat sheet.  I've been keeping a stat of the the things players do that don't show up on stat sheets.  By my count, Saric has more than Smart.

Also, Saric could still reasonably improve.  He's still adjusting to the NBA game.  Smart has been in the league for 2.5 years after playing college basketball in the United States for two years.  Different situations. 

Equal prospects.

What lol.

LarBrd33: "Oh, Saric just picked his nose! Saric 1, Smart 0!!!"

This is the one of most ridiculous things I've seen you write. First off, the whole point of things you do that don't show up in the stat sheet is that they cant be counted. Its totally subjective to determine whether or not a player just made a loose ball save or a hustle play. Also, you'd have to watch every second of every game these 2 have played and be totally unbiased, neither of which applies to you.

Horrible.

[celticsclay]

The 76ers can just draft Monk

Yeah, if standings and ping pong balls go well for them, they can draft both Ball and Monk.

I think the most likely scenario for the 76ers is having one draft pick from 7-11. Without lottery magic

[Ilikesports17]

The 76ers can just draft Monk

Yeah, if standings and ping pong balls go well for them, they can draft both Ball and Monk.

I think the most likely scenario for the 76ers is having one draft pick from 7-11. Without lottery magic

Lakers pick mostly ends up 4-6 range. They can pick up one of Smith Jr Monk or Fox. Ball and Fultz wont be there.

[Ilikesports17]

Bradley is an ideal fit for most teams.  He's 1st team all-defense and has been a borderline all-star this season offensively.  Very efficient shooter.  Probably my favorite player on the Celtics right now.

This trade makes sense though.  I think Philly would do it, though I think saric might have a brighter future than a lot of people here give him credit for.  He's on a par with Marcus smart as a prospect at this point.  Maybe a little better, because he could still reasonably improve and smart has had 2 and a half disappointing seasons. 

It makes sense for Boston big picture for a few reasons. #1 - We are desperate for rim protection so noel fits that immediate need.  #2 - We more than likely are ending up with a guard in this draft who should immediately be our best prospect by far.  He will need minutes.  A guard will need to go or we will be looking at a Phillyesque log jam.  My preference is moving smart, but it's doubtful anyone wants him.   #3 - losing Bradley's salary counters the Noel cap hold which I think is 8 or 11 mil (too lazy to look it up), but if what I remember of the math this would allow us to still target a max contract player like Hayward this offseason before extending Noel.  On that note, you might need to let Olynyk walk to have max cap room - so Dario saric could presumably fill his role next season.

I don't think it will happen, but it's a rare trade idea that makes some sense.  There will be fans from both sides that hate this idea... which is usually a sign it is reasonably close value.   I'd really dislike giving up Bradley but big picture it would be a logical move.

First, Saric is the SAME AGE as Smart and he is NOT anywhere near "on par" with Smart.  Saric is rated last (94th) in RPM at his PF position!!!  He is 92 out of 94 in defensive RPM!!  Meanwhile, Smart is 18th overall and 8th in defensive RPM at his position.

Also, Smart even has a higher PER at 11.4 than Saric's 10.2.

You imply that Saric is MORE likely to improve.  They are the SAME age and Saric was playing professionally overseas since 2012.

Your bias towards anything wearing red, white, and blue over those wearing green is getting ridiculous LarBrd!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Smitty77

Saric does a ton of things that don't show up on the stat sheet.  I've been keeping a stat of the the things players do that don't show up on stat sheets.  By my count, Saric has more than Smart.

Also, Saric could still reasonably improve.  He's still adjusting to the NBA game.  Smart has been in the league for 2.5 years after playing college basketball in the United States for two years.  Different situations. 

Equal prospects.

What lol.

LarBrd33: "Oh, Saric just picked his nose! Saric 1, Smart 0!!!"

This is the one of most ridiculous things I've seen you write. First off, the whole point of things you do that don't show up in the stat sheet is that they cant be counted. Its totally subjective to determine whether or not a player just made a loose ball save or a hustle play. Also, you'd have to watch every second of every game these 2 have played and be totally unbiased, neither of which applies to you.

Horrible.

dont watch much 6ers but I have heard Saric makes a ton of winning type plays. Have a hard time believing he does it more than Smart or that his defense is even in Smarts stratosphere, but Saric and Smart do seem to be similar level assets. Dario's status as a rookie gives him an edge both in terms of contract status and ability to improve more, but Smarts defense makes him more valuable in my eyes. I like Saric a lot. Would love to add him.

[Smitty77]

Bradley is an ideal fit for most teams.  He's 1st team all-defense and has been a borderline all-star this season offensively.  Very efficient shooter.  Probably my favorite player on the Celtics right now.

This trade makes sense though.  I think Philly would do it, though I think saric might have a brighter future than a lot of people here give him credit for.  He's on a par with Marcus smart as a prospect at this point.  Maybe a little better, because he could still reasonably improve and smart has had 2 and a half disappointing seasons. 

It makes sense for Boston big picture for a few reasons. #1 - We are desperate for rim protection so noel fits that immediate need.  #2 - We more than likely are ending up with a guard in this draft who should immediately be our best prospect by far.  He will need minutes.  A guard will need to go or we will be looking at a Phillyesque log jam.  My preference is moving smart, but it's doubtful anyone wants him.   #3 - losing Bradley's salary counters the Noel cap hold which I think is 8 or 11 mil (too lazy to look it up), but if what I remember of the math this would allow us to still target a max contract player like Hayward this offseason before extending Noel.  On that note, you might need to let Olynyk walk to have max cap room - so Dario saric could presumably fill his role next season.

I don't think it will happen, but it's a rare trade idea that makes some sense.  There will be fans from both sides that hate this idea... which is usually a sign it is reasonably close value.   I'd really dislike giving up Bradley but big picture it would be a logical move.

First, Saric is the SAME AGE as Smart and he is NOT anywhere near "on par" with Smart.  Saric is rated last (94th) in RPM at his PF position!!!  He is 92 out of 94 in defensive RPM!!  Meanwhile, Smart is 18th overall and 8th in defensive RPM at his position.

Also, Smart even has a higher PER at 11.4 than Saric's 10.2.

You imply that Saric is MORE likely to improve.  They are the SAME age and Saric was playing professionally overseas since 2012.

Your bias towards anything wearing red, white, and blue over those wearing green is getting ridiculous LarBrd!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Smitty77

Saric does a ton of things that don't show up on the stat sheet.  I've been keeping a stat of the the things players do that don't show up on stat sheets.  By my count, Saric has more than Smart.

Also, Saric could still reasonably improve.  He's still adjusting to the NBA game.  Smart has been in the league for 2.5 years after playing college basketball in the United States for two years.  Different situations. 

Equal prospects.

Are you related to any player or employee for the 76ers??  Are you dating or married to anyone within the organization??

Smitty77

[jpotter33]

The 76ers can just draft Monk

Yeah, if standings and ping pong balls go well for them, they can draft both Ball and Monk.

I think the most likely scenario for the 76ers is having one draft pick from 7-11. Without lottery magic

Lakers pick mostly ends up 4-6 range. They can pick up one of Smith Jr Monk or Fox. Ball and Fultz wont be there.

Eh, they'll be the 2nd worst team in the league by the end of the season, so they'll realistically have just as much of a chance at a top-3 pick as they have of losing it.

[Ilikesports17]

The 76ers can just draft Monk

Yeah, if standings and ping pong balls go well for them, they can draft both Ball and Monk.

I think the most likely scenario for the 76ers is having one draft pick from 7-11. Without lottery magic

Lakers pick mostly ends up 4-6 range. They can pick up one of Smith Jr Monk or Fox. Ball and Fultz wont be there.

Eh, they'll be the 2nd worst team in the league by the end of the season, so they'll realistically have just as much of a chance at a top-3 pick as they have of losing it.

yeah, BBall ref has a tool that predicts these things and it give LA a 50-50 shot to keep the pick(FWIW The tool seems pretty off on a lot of w/l predictions). I on the other hand expect them to have another mini-run in them before the season ends, leaving them with the 3rd lotto odds.

Just my prediction.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/friv/proj_draft.cgi

[jpotter33]

The 76ers can just draft Monk

Yeah, if standings and ping pong balls go well for them, they can draft both Ball and Monk.

I think the most likely scenario for the 76ers is having one draft pick from 7-11. Without lottery magic

Lakers pick mostly ends up 4-6 range. They can pick up one of Smith Jr Monk or Fox. Ball and Fultz wont be there.

Eh, they'll be the 2nd worst team in the league by the end of the season, so they'll realistically have just as much of a chance at a top-3 pick as they have of losing it.

yeah, BBall ref has a tool that predicts these things and it give LA a 50-50 shot to keep the pick(FWIW The tool seems pretty off on a lot of w/l predictions). I on the other hand expect them to have another mini-run in them before the season ends, leaving them with the 3rd lotto odds.

Just my prediction.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/friv/proj_draft.cgi

You think they'll actually try to win games, though? I think they'll be the biggest, blatant tankers the rest of the way knowing that they have a decent shot of keeping their pick now.

[celticsclay]

The 76ers can just draft Monk

Yeah, if standings and ping pong balls go well for them, they can draft both Ball and Monk.

I think the most likely scenario for the 76ers is having one draft pick from 7-11. Without lottery magic

Lakers pick mostly ends up 4-6 range. They can pick up one of Smith Jr Monk or Fox. Ball and Fultz wont be there.

Eh, they'll be the 2nd worst team in the league by the end of the season, so they'll realistically have just as much of a chance at a top-3 pick as they have of losing it.

yeah, BBall ref has a tool that predicts these things and it give LA a 50-50 shot to keep the pick(FWIW The tool seems pretty off on a lot of w/l predictions). I on the other hand expect them to have another mini-run in them before the season ends, leaving them with the 3rd lotto odds.

Just my prediction.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/friv/proj_draft.cgi

You think they'll actually try to win games, though? I think they'll be the biggest, blatant tankers the rest of the way knowing that they have a decent shot of keeping their pick now.

they have been goofing around for like a month already. Constant minor injuries for randle and Russell, starting Calderon's corpse  over Clarkson, sending Williams to the bench when they can't score.

[Boris Badenov]

The 76ers can just draft Monk

Yeah, if standings and ping pong balls go well for them, they can draft both Ball and Monk.

I think the most likely scenario for the 76ers is having one draft pick from 7-11. Without lottery magic

Lakers pick mostly ends up 4-6 range. They can pick up one of Smith Jr Monk or Fox. Ball and Fultz wont be there.

Eh, they'll be the 2nd worst team in the league by the end of the season, so they'll realistically have just as much of a chance at a top-3 pick as they have of losing it.

yeah, BBall ref has a tool that predicts these things and it give LA a 50-50 shot to keep the pick(FWIW The tool seems pretty off on a lot of w/l predictions). I on the other hand expect them to have another mini-run in them before the season ends, leaving them with the 3rd lotto odds.

Just my prediction.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/friv/proj_draft.cgi

This is a minor quibble but that site has us with a 25.1% chance of getting the number 1 pick, which is mathematically impossible, right?