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Re: Smart should be our de facto PG
« Reply #30 on: November 13, 2016, 07:37:09 PM »

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Marcus is by far our best PG.

The Rozier backup PG experiment is failing.  He looks promising, but doesn't deserve a single minute over Smart.

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the rozier backup PG experiment may indeed be failing, but the rozier backup SG experiment is not that bad, right? he's been a pretty solid outside shooter, and i could see us playing him off the ball more often, see if he can continue his hot shooting.
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Re: Smart should be our de facto PG
« Reply #31 on: November 13, 2016, 07:41:14 PM »

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I agree, I see Smart most effective on the offensive end is when he is being pg and handling the ball. Smart is the type that I see wants to keep his teammates involved and will try to look for them to score before he thinks about it. Very effective in the pick and roll imo.

Rozier whom I like, can be very good offensively but I don't see him as someone who wants to pass.

Re: Smart should be our de facto PG
« Reply #32 on: November 13, 2016, 07:45:06 PM »

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Rozier has actually been playing pretty good of late taking it to the basket.  The issue is we  have an abundance of guards.  Who knows what ainge will do with all these draft picks coming up. 

I agree Smart can play pg but fans get ahead of themselves a bit in a variety of ways.  There are a lot of different things we can do.

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Re: Smart should be our de facto PG
« Reply #33 on: November 13, 2016, 07:52:06 PM »

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Rozier+Young for Cauley Stein is already a rumor. The issue isn't that Rozier and Young can't play. They are very young.  We could trade other guys for someone else too.  How it all plays out who knows right now.

Yes Smart can play pg. Smart for Deandre was a rumor.  IT for so and so.  We have a ton of draft picks.  Who knows what will happen.

Maybe we won't trade anyone and will just draft and let guys like Amir who's contract is expiring walk and keep guys stashed.  I think jerebko is expiring as well.  KO will be up for contract and should be resigned.

The celtics to me have to make a decision who they are going to go with ultimately. They can't play all tehse guys.  But for now it creates competition and we can play them in ways.  Brown is still young.  Young can get some time.  So can Rozier.

We aren't that deep where these decisions need to be made today.

Re: Smart should be our de facto PG
« Reply #34 on: November 13, 2016, 07:57:10 PM »

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i thought CBS' offense didnt rely upon the traditional roles, such as pg, sg,sf, pf, c.

doesn't CBS prefer to have multiple ball handlers on the floor to provide versitility and flexibility?

perhaps the OP needs to retitle the thread accordingly. that might make much of the current discussions moot, but take us in a  better direction discussion wise.
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Re: Smart should be our de facto PG
« Reply #35 on: November 13, 2016, 07:58:42 PM »

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I don't think being a PG means you need blazing quickness. Andre Miller comes to mind as a great PG who could run a team well. Smart has shown some good vision and patience in running an offense.
Billups and Payton are two champion point guards in the Smart mold who weren't blowing by guys to break down the defense.   They backed in sometimes, as did Cassell.   Smart just has to use the tools that he has to his advantage.  He doesn't have to blow by guys like Westbrook or Wall.

Re: Smart should be our de facto PG
« Reply #36 on: November 13, 2016, 08:03:10 PM »

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Rozier is a 2nd year player seeing his first real action.  Young is 21 years old and seeing his and finally starting to do some things.  Brown is a rookie.   Smart is a 3rd year player who is starting to play pg more and more.  Right now we have IT and Horford and guys like BRadley and Crowder who are more solidified in their roles. 

It's not that Brad prefers this it's just the reality of the situation.  KO just got back and is a guy who is just starting to get his shot as well.

We do like players that share the ball and understand these things but it's more just the reality of what this teams strengths are.

If we didn't have IT, Smart probably would be starting at PG but we have him doing other things  and playing to his strengths right now.  He's a 3rd year player who should progressively play pg more and more with the subtraction of ET.

What I don't want is to be  like those other teams that trades off those pieces that go on to be great players elsewhere.  We aren't that good yet to be doing that.

It's also why Ainge hasn't made any trades.   He can let it play out.  We are still trying to develop these guys.
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Re: Smart should be our de facto PG
« Reply #37 on: November 13, 2016, 08:12:17 PM »

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 What Smart needs to do is concentrate on his strengths like passing the ball and other things no matter where or when he plays and making an impact.  The same with Rozier and Brown and young and all these guys.  They are basically 18-23 year olds.  They have long careers ahead of them.

All of them have potential and can play.  Fans that pan these guys don't get it. They'll be proven wrong too.

Re: Smart should be our de facto PG
« Reply #38 on: November 13, 2016, 08:17:29 PM »

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Marcus is by far our best PG.

The Rozier backup PG experiment is failing.  He looks promising, but doesn't deserve a single minute over Smart.

IT 32 / Smart 16
AB 32 / Smart 16
Crowder 20 / Brown 28
KO 30 / Crowder 12 / Amir 6
Horford 30 / Amir 18

Best 8 man rotation in the league.

the rozier backup PG experiment may indeed be failing, but the rozier backup SG experiment is not that bad, right? he's been a pretty solid outside shooter, and i could see us playing him off the ball more often, see if he can continue his hot shooting.

It's not that bad but he's still no where near the SG that Smart is (or even Brown for that matter) so it's still the same point.

Rozier should be battling with Green and Young for the de facto injury replacement position, not battling with Smart and Brown for their court time.
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Re: Smart should be our de facto PG
« Reply #39 on: November 13, 2016, 08:40:57 PM »

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It's pretty early to have an 8 man rotation. We are still developing players on this team.  If we played 8 guys all year we would develop no one and would be a walking infirmary by the end of the year.  This team is not that good yet.   Some of you would run this team into the ground. Marathon not a sprint.  I think a lot of fans forget these guys are human beings and people sometimes honestly.  They are developing young players etc.

If injuries happen we are developing players so they are more prepared if that occurs as well.  Plus we just aren't that good yet. 

We aren't the 80's celtics where we just run out Bird, Mchale, Parish, Dj, and Ainge every night. Even those guys were human and got worn down.

DA hated that as a matter of fact and how a lot of those guys health was destroyed.

DA is more developing this team in a bubble.  To a fault sometimes where players get lazy but he's trying to do that.

KO to me is the ultimate bubble boy where he does need to be challenged and play more imo.  Smart not so much.

Zeller needs to be put under the fire more too. Amir and Smart I'm not overly worried about that way.

Smart does need to be more aggressive on the offensive end passing the ball imo. He needs to be more aggressive offensively that way regardless of where he plays.

Dj was that kind of player where regardless of whether he was a pg or not he would make plays all over the floor.  Guys like that you could put them anywhere and they'd make plays.
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Re: Smart should be our de facto PG
« Reply #40 on: November 13, 2016, 11:38:04 PM »

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Marcus is by far our best PG.


I must've missed something. When did the Boston Celtics trade Isaiah Thomas?

Re: Smart should be our de facto PG
« Reply #41 on: November 14, 2016, 10:50:48 AM »

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Marcus has improved across the board except for FT Shooting.

Part of it is he is comfortable and has more confidence now.

His passing is better too and point guard ability. Although he is still not a very good point guard. He is average at best.