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jaylen, Marcus, Bradley
« on: November 06, 2016, 06:36:21 AM »

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All 3 drafted by us.  I classify these guys as a group for some reason.  Rozier, KO were drafted by us as well but I don't put them into that same classification.  just something about them as well I haven't felt that same whatever it is.  I think these 3 guys more typlify what the celtics are about at their core.  It's a team game and a group of guys. Russell would be the first to say that.  15 guys from all over and all different workign together towards a common goal. Horford and Isaiah are different to me though. We signed horford.  We traded for Isaiah. They are our best guys right now.  Crowder is kind of that same thing but more a defensive beast and ill classify him as his own thing.  We are one superstar jae.  jaylen, marcus, bradley are a good unit and i like when they are all out there at the same time though.  If i were running things, that would be one core unit id like on the floor. i dont know what it is.  Shooting, grit, defense, athleticism, passing, defense.  It's a good combo. 

I consider tehm our core even over Isaiah and Horford.  I think as far as longevity too they just fit that.  I hope Ainge doesn't trade Marcus or any of these 3.  I think if we build around these 3 we can be really good for a long time. To be great we may have to but I disagree. I think we can be great with these guys. I think contract wise and everything I think all 3 have a shot to be up in the rafters.  Maybe not paul pierce but the 3 of them could be something different.

Not your typical big 3 but a mini big 3 and core of heinsohn type guys. Not classify in a racist or ignorant sense either. just i group these 3 guys for a reason. bradley is really a left over from the previous core who we developed and has become our best player out of that bunch. Marcus and jaylen are our 2 top picks who have a chance to do that as well.

just underrated gritty players too. I always liked bradley.  When we drafted him. I really like rozier too but bradley was special when we drafted him imo. He took a lot of flack but i always liked that pick.

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« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2016, 06:39:09 AM »

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Ainge may break it up. I think he should be patient with them though.  One of them could get traded. Even Rozier could or KO.  I hope not. jmb, bmj, bjm.  j.a.m.  jaylen, avery, marcus could be pretty good. lol.

If all 3 are involved in a play defensively they are abs and on offense they are jam.

I like the combination regardless when they are all on the floor together.

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By the numbers I don't think Brad uses this combination enough at the same time.  He does use it though. 

I think talentwise outside of Isaiah, Horford and Crowder these are our 3 most talented players.  He does utilize them that way by the minutes they get.  The issue is someone always has to be the odd man out with 5 guys on the floor although he does use all 3 at the same time. I've seen him do it with the starters and the bench.  Amir doesn't play much but in order to get our 5 best players on the floor at the same time is difficult.  We have 6 and Amir starts and plays minimal minutes.

The difference is we drafted these 3 guys and developed them and as far as age and all things considered they are a core here.

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« Reply #2 on: November 06, 2016, 07:47:24 AM »

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just a different way to look at it is all.  Ainge has done a good job addressing needs in different ways.  He went out and got Isaiah via trade as an offensive sparkplug. He got Crowder as a defensive core piece and signed Al as a free agent.  He's drafted 3 core pieces in Bradley, Smart and Brown.  One he developed drafting later from the last regime and carried over and Smart and Brown are high picks from the new core from trading away Pierce and Garnett.  KO, Rozier and some of these other guys are more middle of the road picks that havent developed as much yet or later picks and signings and throw ins or minor trades.  I can't remember exactly how we got jerebko and zeller but I think they were more by maneuvering that way.

Most of his moves are pretty good that way.  He hasn't hit the lottery with a 2nd round pick or found jordan in the 2nd round but most of his moves make sense.

I hope Ainge doesn't break it up and more finds a way where he can utilize these guys going forward. It's difficult because on paper we have 6 guys who I feel are our most talented players.  Amir is starting right now which allows us to play them off the bench but as they continue to develop it will get tricky.  KO and Rozier are going to play too.

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I think Ainge brought in Isaiah to be our pg.  Horford is a big man for us and locked up.  Marcus could eventually be our starting pg with bradley at the 2 and brown at the 3.  I'm not saying that will happen.  Ainge may make a move but if you look at these 3 guys the way I am it just gives us varyiing ways to build.

Right now it's more about utilizing these guys in different ways and I hope they get their chance.  I think KO and Rozier right now are darkhorses.  KO could surprise.  So could Rozier.  Zeller is stepping up.  We have Jackson.  It's brad's job to utilize these guys.  Right now we have smart playing multiple positions. Brown is getting spots starts and developing off the bench, but they should be in the discussion going forward as far as key pieces.  Bradley has really stepped up. Brown has played well and MArcus has as well since he's been back.

I think the celtics like this in ways too having multiple guys who can do different things and play the same position.   It will be interesting how it all works out in the end whether ainge moves one of these guys to get a better starter or whatever.

I'm sold on Bradley that he can play. Can he stay healthy and keep getting better and do it with consistency? Brown is going to be a player too.  Marcus has some issues with his flops and he's not the speediest guy where he is well served as a jack of all trades for now. He does what he is asked to do.  It will be interesting to see how they continue to develop whether Marcus is more a clubhouse guy and roleplayer who just does things and a leader that way, or a leader who can be a future pg etc.  Brown is really the guy to me but how good can he be.. He isn't michael jordan yet.  He's more MKG with a somewhat decent jumpshot which is really good though and a developing young player. He's Reggie Lewis. He'll be a really solid starting 3 in this league.

Right now even Rozier compliments Marcus with more speed.  KO gives us shooting. So does Green.  Crowder gives us a solid defensive starter to go with Brown. Isaiiah gives us a speed offensive sparkplug as a starter now where they compliment each other in different ways. Jerebko and Zeller are their own thing as well.

There's no set way. Ainge has gotten these guys all in a variety of ways too.  Brad is playing them and utilizing them to their strengths right now.   How it develops is what is interesting to me.
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Amir is good too.  He doesn't need to play a lot and gives us some toughness and team oriented guy with that starting group.  What we want from Zeller is some toughness off the bench which is not what he has been for the majority of his career but he is starting to show it.  He is starting to show it to go with KO who can range out more.

Rozier to me is kind of an in between Marcus and Isaiah. He can play at both ends and can score and is fast and athletic.  He is a good compliment to those guys as well.  What we want from him is that as a 3rd guy who is versatile and can play different positions as well.  Jackson expands that even more as another sparkplug.  Plus the guys we have overseas. And Mickey.

As far as talent though, it all kind of fits how I'm saying.  Classifying is good in ways because it gives an idea of what I want from certain players.  It also makes sense in how ainge drafts and why we target certain kinds of players.