Does Palming Bother You?

[SHAQATTACK]

Palm readers do tho

[dannyboy35]

I think a guy like Wade owes a lot of success to palming. To me him and over son were the worst ever. I think this has been the refs failure. But then again different rules for different players made Dennis Rodman a hall of fame rebounder. The guy literally fouled multiple times every single trip down the court. There is no legitimate way he could guard a guy like Karl Malone without doing so. But the refs rewarded his clutching , grabbing, and cheap shots even though they knew he just did it and would do it again and again. It's messed up. I don't get it. But this stuff is the referees responsibility on the floor.  I don't think the palming is as blatant as say 10 years ago.

[Spilling Green Dye]

Thank you for starting this thread.  I think the amount of palming/carrying the ball in the league is the biggest problem.  Athleticism has always had a coveted space in the NBA, but skill usually won out.  Palming has tipped the scales in favor of athleticism over skill. 

As a result of this, as well as some other rules changes (or no calls), players like Lebron can barrel down the lane as opposed to actually becoming a good jump shooter, Kyrie can keep doing crossovers w/ palming instead of having developed passing skills like a normal PG, and most top draft picks these days are coming in the league with qualifiers like "yeah but he can't shoot.  He'll have to learn how to do that in the NBA."  How ridiculous does that sound? 

Palming acceptance has made a first step & speed a more important individual skill than shooting, boxing out, or passing.  And that is a major problem to me.

[Celtics4ever]

Palming is against the rules, so if they are not going to call it take it out of the rules.   It gives ball handlers a license to cheat.   I think the hop of the euro-hop should be sent back to Europe as well or taken out of the rules.  I am for them cracking down on palming, traveling, and euro-step.   I would like to see the end of the star calls and subsidization of low scoring nights with free throw attempts.

[LilRip]

Evan Turner seems like he palms the ball on every dribble lol

Palming doesn't really bother me so much, TBH. Maybe when it's so overt but when it's a smooth move, it's fine IMO. What I do wish is that they bring hand checking back. If they overlook offensive players taking a step here and there or carrying the ball, then it seems only fair that the defense can get away with a hold here and there too.

[DarkAzcura]

Traveling doesn't happen nearly as much as some think it happens. It's a misunderstanding of rules, IMO.

Palming, though, happens on almost every play. There are some I'm alright with and others I am not. IT and Crawford's 'palming' is fine to me because there is a lot of skill involved there. I've always been a bit uneasy with Turner's palming, though.

[flybono]

I palm it at least once a month. Aint nothing wrong with the palm

[walker834]

I wish the rules were called how they were meant to be called.  As a basketball purist they should just call the game right period imo.  What that is is so subjective though when it's really not.  I think Heinsohn has a point there as biased as he may seem I think he understands the rules moreso than the officials do sometimes. He ends up having to argue for his own players and team but I think he understands the rules.

Palming to me is a very simple one.  It's in the rulebook for a reason because it gives players an unfair advantage.  Once you have palmed the ball you have stopped dribbling it's as simple as that.  Anything after that is a double dribble.

You can palm the ball all you want if you don't dribble again. You can even palm the ball all you want before you start dribbling.   Palming the basketball while dribbling is a double dribble.

You can even do hesitation moves but once you turn your palm upward you are defying gravity.  once you cup the basketball and  are stopping your dribble you are palming the basketball.

[walker834]

players used to dribble below their waste period because that's how they were taught. They also weren't as ambidextrous.  I don't mind certain evolutions of the game but if you watch old footage of cousy there was no such thing as hesitation dribbles back then and he was always dribbling with his palm flat and below his waste.  Now you see guys dribbling the ball up near their necks and it's just sloppy.  I don't think it should be that stringent but it has gotten that way.

this is how you are supposed to dribble the basketball though

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QCP6mMMH2Q

I think there is one moment in that video he is dribbling above his waste at 1:45 and it isn't to palm the ball or to use some hesitation it's because the ball  bounced that high off a pass and it got away from him a bit.