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in the world of zimbabwe dollars
« on: July 31, 2016, 06:31:24 AM »

Offline rollie mass

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athletes salaries have become so inflated but as the world now looks on the NBA advertising revenues  and tv rights must be staggering
so it seems that three of our players are laboring on contracts that are laughable
not to set a precendant, how could the celts reward those players that risk injury or become less motivated by this divide
i know a contract is a contract-could the celts give a system of bonuses,a flat out raise,an team friendly extension or add a superstar
next time isaiah gets dumped to the ground or avery takes a hit from a screen or they are injured or rehabbing-
even a token raise at some point, maybe mid season
i would certainly fire my agent -danny gets called shrewd but wise  might be a raise-
« Last Edit: July 31, 2016, 08:00:19 AM by rollie mass »

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« Reply #1 on: July 31, 2016, 09:30:17 AM »

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athletes salaries have become so inflated but as the world now looks on the NBA advertising revenues  and tv rights must be staggering
so it seems that three of our players are laboring on contracts that are laughable
not to set a precendant, how could the celts reward those players that risk injury or become less motivated by this divide
i know a contract is a contract-could the celts give a system of bonuses,a flat out raise,an team friendly extension or add a superstar
next time isaiah gets dumped to the ground or avery takes a hit from a screen or they are injured or rehabbing-
even a token raise at some point, maybe mid season
i would certainly fire my agent -danny gets called shrewd but wise  might be a raise-

The disparity is getting big but I look at it like this:
IT is going to get paid $20 million+ a year for 4 years because of the opportunity the Celtics gave him.
Same with Jae, without our true for him, he may still be struggling for a roster spot on the Mavs or on a much smaller contract...same happened to Evan Turner this year and his $80 million deal.
"We are lucky we have a very patient GM that isn't willing to settle for being good and coming close. He wants to win a championship and we have the potential to get there still with our roster and assets."

quoting 'Greg B' on RealGM after 2017 trade deadline.
Read that last line again. One more time.

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« Reply #2 on: July 31, 2016, 09:51:25 AM »

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Haven't some of these guys come out and said they don't care about their money compared to others? They got good money when they signed, things have just changed since then

None of our three way-underpaid players seem like the type to take a night off, not give it their all, or complain just because they are slightly underpaid. I think people are putting way more thought into it than the players themselves
I'm bitter.

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« Reply #3 on: July 31, 2016, 10:08:34 AM »

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Zeller makes more next season than Crowder, Bradley and IT.That's pretty silly

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« Reply #4 on: July 31, 2016, 10:59:21 AM »

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Much ado about nothing.

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« Reply #5 on: July 31, 2016, 11:44:56 AM »

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not if someone gets an acl injury-very few get back to same level--

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« Reply #6 on: July 31, 2016, 12:21:10 PM »

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Haven't some of these guys come out and said they don't care about their money compared to others? They got good money when they signed, things have just changed since then

None of our three way-underpaid players seem like the type to take a night off, not give it their all, or complain just because they are slightly underpaid. I think people are putting way more thought into it than the players themselves

This is going to become an issue whether you guys like it or not. I brought this up before but the board shouted down the notion. Lets wait and see.

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« Reply #7 on: July 31, 2016, 12:37:22 PM »

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Truth is a player gets paid mostly for what he has done not for what he will do. So even though a guy is underpaid now he is actually working for his next contract. (25% of the rookies in this league will out play their contracts as well.)

Example: IT is being paid based on what he did on the Kings by the a deal he made with Suns. At that time he wasnt the player he is now. He was viewed by many as only a sparkplug roleplayer and possibly a decent six man. As I recall only 3 teams called IT directly that FA year. Next contract IT will be paid based on what he did with Kings (role player), Suns (six man), and C's (starter and 1x all-star) the view on him is completely different now. 15 or more teams will call him. He will make great $.

 IT, AB and Crowder should all know that it is key to keep going hard to get their next big pay day. In the meantime playoff $ and advertising money will also come their way keep doing well. We already see IT popping up on more sports shows being interviewed more. He probably has more fans and social media followers that lead to more $ as well.

So there shouldn't be any problems it's the way the NBA works. A system plenty of guys have got rich on.
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Funny, when Avery Bradley signed his contract the uproar over the amount per year he was getting paid was ridiculous here at Celticsblog. Now people think he is way underpaid and think he needs a raise even though he hasnt really gotten a ton better.

These are professional athletes. They know how contracts work. The type of situation people are worried about where some players get mad because they are underpaid as compared to someone else is very rare and usually only happens with very immature players.

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« Reply #9 on: July 31, 2016, 02:43:47 PM »

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not if someone gets an acl injury-very few get back to same level--

They're all multi-millionaires, I'm sure they'll find a way to cope.

The insinuation that this is a problem though, is far fetched.

If we don't find use for cap space next season, I'm sure we may end up doing a renegotiation and extension with Thomas for example. But maximizing cap space comes first.

Players will play, that's what they're paid for. If they don't, they won't get the delicious contract they're pining for anyways.

Anyways, this in the end is a none-issue.

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« Reply #10 on: July 31, 2016, 03:03:23 PM »

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Haven't some of these guys come out and said they don't care about their money compared to others? They got good money when they signed, things have just changed since then

None of our three way-underpaid players seem like the type to take a night off, not give it their all, or complain just because they are slightly underpaid. I think people are putting way more thought into it than the players themselves

Crowder said that. Earlier this summer, when someone asked IT about the contracts going around this year, he said something along the lines of, "They better bring the trucks full of money when I'm a free agent." AB actually fired his agent, allegedly because he was unsatisfied with his current contract, that reflected his value pretty fairly at the time (injury-prone, undersized 2-guard that had two good years, one as a starter for 20ish games before he got hurt and another as a starter on a lottery team) but didn't project future improvement. Basically, Bradley wasn't comfortable betting on his health and/or his game, so he took the single-digit millions on a quick contract. Maybe his agent convinced him that that was the best bet. Nevertheless, signs point to AB thinking he's worth more than his $8 million next year, which is fair enough. It's just how much more he thinks he's worth that might raise an issue.

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« Reply #11 on: July 31, 2016, 05:47:30 PM »

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athletes salaries have become so inflated but as the world now looks on the NBA advertising revenues  and tv rights must be staggering
so it seems that three of our players are laboring on contracts that are laughable

This is not a bad topic, but fortunately it doesn't seem to pertain to the Celtics.

Fans in other cities must hate Danny Ainge, but the only people who matter are the players. They seem to be liking what they're seeing. We were #2 to get Durant. Think about that. That put into place serious crow pie for a lot of people who said no one big would ever play for us as a free agent.

It didn't matter that there was never any cap space to attempt it.

We have Horford, the perfect addition for team chemistry.

Isaiah may be a bit grouchy over the recent boom in money not including him, but he was joking about the Brink's truck.

Isaiah is a form of Bradley and Crowder. His stock value so to speak has sky rocketed since joining the team. Evan Turner's new contract shows that those guys have nothing to worry about. Isaiah will turn 29 for his next contract. It's only in two years. This situation actually encourages Isaiah to break new ceilings.

The same goes for Crowder and especially Bradley. They are young enough in that if they keep improving, they will get theirs.

I think players would look at Zeller as an anomaly, a fluke of the times.

I imagine Portland is the kind of team who should worry about this stuff, if anyone.

We love Evan Turner, but he is not God's gift to basketball and makes unimaginable money for what he's done in his career.

Sullinger is another lesson for players currently still on the team. I imagine James Young is about to become a lesson for all first and second year players.

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« Reply #12 on: August 01, 2016, 07:38:56 AM »

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in the world of zimbabwe dollars: Isaiah is getting paid ZWD2.895 billion dollars
"Gimme the ball, gimme the ball". Freddy Quimby, 1994.

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I don't think you can do that without cap room. But yeah, if we have even a few hundred thousand in cap room we could use it to renegotiate IT's deal and throw him a bone. He isn't the type of guy not to give his all because he's underpaid, but he's been perpetually underpaid his entire career and I'm sure he'd appreciate the gesture. And he'd remember it when he becomes a FA.

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The NFL took a hit in sales, regular season ratings plus all the turmoil with Goodell. NBA is the one league that is absorbing the NFL fallout.