Did Turner really stunt Smart's development?

[RJ87]

I think he is best fit as a SG. Maybe a combo guard at best, not a primary ball handler.

I've been saying this for the longest.

[loco_91]

You guys just don't get it Marcus is not a point--he does not have the instincts or sense of a point--Chris Paul understands the game and ball movement--Evan Turner understood ball movement better than our other guards----Brad saw this--Terry Rozier has shown a little potential as a PG---Marcus has shown zero understanding of what it takes to be a PG--we all understand this talent is not in Avery's DNA--well it is also not in Marcus's DNA--he can play---has value, but has shown nothing that should lead anyone to believe he will ever be a PG--the Tony Allen comparison is very much true as far as I have seen!  Marcus does not think, see or understand passing or running an offense--repetition is not enough.

Also posted under the Evan Turner replacement thread!

Agree with this as well. His judgment with the basketball isn't good enough to run an NBA offense at this point.

I watched Smart closely all season and I never thought this was a weakness of his. Sometimes he shoots too much, I guess. Are you sure you're not just assuming that his judgement is poor because he's bad on offense overall?

[RJ87]

You guys just don't get it Marcus is not a point--he does not have the instincts or sense of a point--Chris Paul understands the game and ball movement--Evan Turner understood ball movement better than our other guards----Brad saw this--Terry Rozier has shown a little potential as a PG---Marcus has shown zero understanding of what it takes to be a PG--we all understand this talent is not in Avery's DNA--well it is also not in Marcus's DNA--he can play---has value, but has shown nothing that should lead anyone to believe he will ever be a PG--the Tony Allen comparison is very much true as far as I have seen!  Marcus does not think, see or understand passing or running an offense--repetition is not enough.

Also posted under the Evan Turner replacement thread!

Agree with this as well. His judgment with the basketball isn't good enough to run an NBA offense at this point.

I watched Smart closely all season and I never thought this was a weakness of his. Sometimes he shoots too much, I guess. Are you sure you're not just assuming that his judgement is poor because he's bad on offense overall?

Speaking for myself, I think a true NBA point guard has to know when to get his own and when to get the other guys involved. Even scoring guards like Curry and Westbrook have found a balance. Smart still hasn't shown a capability to understanding the game on that level.

[jpotter33]

Yes, he can't exclusively play with three other ball-handlers, at least always one on the court with him, and be effective. We essentially had him as a spot-up 3 and D guy when that is clearly not his role. Expect to see a sizable jump with Marcus this year being the primary ball-handler and guy off the bench. I believe it turns into a Bledsoe situation with him eventually.

[CoachBo]

You guys just don't get it Marcus is not a point--he does not have the instincts or sense of a point--Chris Paul understands the game and ball movement--Evan Turner understood ball movement better than our other guards----Brad saw this--Terry Rozier has shown a little potential as a PG---Marcus has shown zero understanding of what it takes to be a PG--we all understand this talent is not in Avery's DNA--well it is also not in Marcus's DNA--he can play---has value, but has shown nothing that should lead anyone to believe he will ever be a PG--the Tony Allen comparison is very much true as far as I have seen!  Marcus does not think, see or understand passing or running an offense--repetition is not enough.

Also posted under the Evan Turner replacement thread!

Agree with this as well. His judgment with the basketball isn't good enough to run an NBA offense at this point.

I watched Smart closely all season and I never thought this was a weakness of his. Sometimes he shoots too much, I guess. Are you sure you're not just assuming that his judgement is poor because he's bad on offense overall?

Speaking for myself, I think a true NBA point guard has to know when to get his own and when to get the other guys involved. Even scoring guards like Curry and Westbrook have found a balance. Smart still hasn't shown a capability to understanding the game on that level.

Agreed. Too turnover prone as well. Right now, he's Tony Allen, or Turnover Tony as he used to be known. An off-guard without a shot.

[feckless]

You guys just don't get it Marcus is not a point--he does not have the instincts or sense of a point--Chris Paul understands the game and ball movement--Evan Turner understood ball movement better than our other guards----Brad saw this--Terry Rozier has shown a little potential as a PG---Marcus has shown zero understanding of what it takes to be a PG--we all understand this talent is not in Avery's DNA--well it is also not in Marcus's DNA--he can play---has value, but has shown nothing that should lead anyone to believe he will ever be a PG--the Tony Allen comparison is very much true as far as I have seen!  Marcus does not think, see or understand passing or running an offense--repetition is not enough.

Also posted under the Evan Turner replacement thread!

Agree with this as well. His judgment with the basketball isn't good enough to run an NBA offense at this point.

I watched Smart closely all season and I never thought this was a weakness of his. Sometimes he shoots too much, I guess. Are you sure you're not just assuming that his judgement is poor because he's bad on offense overall?

What I saw was poor decision making, shooting when he should pass, making the wrong pass, driving when he should pull up,  driving and not passing-- almost always looking for the home run, Brad did not use Evan or even Terry over Marcus to run the offense merely because Marcus shoots too much.  I believe his pg instincts are poor to non-existent.

[vjcsmoke]

Nope.  Marcus Smart had a regression year offensively.  The only positive is that his FT shooting improved, and that's a good indicator of improved shooting form.  I have hopes to seeing Smart make progress in year 3.  As a man you don't blame others for your failures, you try to fix what's wrong with your own game.  Smart needs to learn better shot selection and to play the game under control.  He plays a bit out of control at times and at the NBA level, that will cost you.

[MaxAMillion]

No one is stunting Smart's development. He is a limited offensive player, but Delusional Danny drafted him so he must be great.

[celticmania]

Marcus clearly never had the handle to be a point guard and defensively he locks up shooting guards a little better than he does smaller guards. He is better as a 2 on both sides of the court.

[csfansince60s]

TP to the OP for the thread. This is a subject that's been insinuated by some and asserted by others on here for awhile and often used as an excuse to dump ET.

I lay the blame here at Smart and CBS's feet.

As others have said, Smart for not doing what he needed to do and Stevens for not throwing Smart into the fire.