Does anyone think we could be able to snag Love and Gasol?

[Monkhouse]

Those two players are the perfect players for Brad Stevens system. I wonder at which cost, and if it was realistically possible to still pull in a Kevin Durant?

Does anyone think we could be able to pull this off? Ainge has definitely been dialing the phone asking for the price on Love, so Griffin certainly knows what his intentions are. If the Grizzlies are afraid that Conley may leave, they may also want to be on the rebuild.

Would we still have enough cap space for Durant with Love and Gasol?

[alldaboston]

I don't know about cap stuff, but I know the defense would be horrible with those two.

[KGs Knee]

I don't know about cap stuff, but I know the defense would be horrible with those two.

I think the OP is referring to Marc, not Pau. Marc Gasol is a good defender, although only an average rebounder.

[LarBrd33]

Yeah that could happen.

[Monkhouse]

I don't know about cap stuff, but I know the defense would be horrible with those two.

I don't know about cap stuff, but I know the defense would be horrible with those two.

I think the OP is referring to Marc, not Pau. Marc Gasol is a good defender, although only an average rebounder.

Yes, I was talking about Marc Gasol.

I'm not that interested in Pau Gasol, because I don't believe he is a good fit for this team.

I'm always curious to know why the report leaked, and if true, why Durant is intrigued by playing with Pau Gasol, and not Marc Gasol; a big man who can post up, play up top in the high elbows and make smart passes, defend, and score in mismatches.

But I think Ainge is more focused on bringing in a defensive but althetic center, so the question therein lies, who is the center that we may get? We can't keep playing like this without a competent center.

[jpotter33]

I don't think you'd have enough space for Durant, too, not unless you completely decimate the roster. Those three would be nearly making $70M together. (Love 21.5, Gasol 21.2, and Durant 26.4)

[alldaboston]

I don't know about cap stuff, but I know the defense would be horrible with those two.

I don't know about cap stuff, but I know the defense would be horrible with those two.

I think the OP is referring to Marc, not Pau. Marc Gasol is a good defender, although only an average rebounder.

Yes, I was talking about Marc Gasol.

I'm not that interested in Pau Gasol, because I don't believe he is a good fit for this team.

I'm always curious to know why the report leaked, and if true, why Durant is intrigued by playing with Pau Gasol, and not Marc Gasol; a big man who can post up, play up top in the high elbows and make smart passes, defend, and score in mismatches.

But I think Ainge is more focused on bringing in a defensive but althetic center, so the question therein lies, who is the center that we may get? We can't keep playing like this without a competent center.

Oh I see. My bad. Lowkey I just read the title and the first paragraph.

I like Marc, but he's getting up there in age, and he just got hurt. So I'm a little hesitant.

[rocknrollforyoursoul]

Marc's good, and the type of defender we'd need to have next to Love in the frontcourt, but I feel like he's too old for this team, unless Danny can pull off corresponding moves to make the Celtics a legit title contender this coming season. I and feel like Danny's learned from the New Big Three era that a longer-lasting title window requires an under-30 core.

[Smokeeye123]

Marc Gasol is interesting. I think it's time for the Grizzlies to blow it up completely. They'd probably ask for the #3 this year and next years BKL pick though.

If we could pull off AB+#3 this year for Jimmy Butler and BKL 17, Memphis 2018, another pick plus Olynyk, and Amir for Gasol I'd probably do it.

(C) M. Gasol
(PF) Sullinger
(SF) Crowder
(G) Butler
(PG) I. Thomas, Smart

Not a bad team, I'd probably look to replace sully though.

[Surferdad]

Marc Gasol is interesting. I think it's time for the Grizzlies to blow it up completely. They'd probably ask for the #3 this year and next years BKL pick though.

If we could pull off AB+#3 this year for Jimmy Butler and BKL 17, Memphis 2018, another pick plus Olynyk, and Amir for Gasol I'd probably do it.

(C) M. Gasol
(PF) Sullinger
(SF) Crowder
(G) Butler
(PG) I. Thomas, Smart

Not a bad team, I'd probably look to replace sully though.

I like that team but it really needs another GOOD outside shooter.

[saltlover]

I don't think you'd have enough space for Durant, too, not unless you completely decimate the roster. Those three would be nearly making $70M together. (Love 21.5, Gasol 21.2, and Durant 26.4)

You could if Cleveland, or a third party, were interested in a sign-and-trade for Sullinger.

On draft night, trade Amir+JJ+Young+Hunter+#3 to Memphis.
In free agency, sign Durant.  Keep Sully's cap hold.  We'd have about $7 million left, even with including cap holds for picks #16 and #23.  Spend that $7 million somehow (ET maybe).  Then send:

AB+Mickey+Sullinger signed to a contract valued at $13,344,718 in year 1.  That seems a little high, but it might not be ridiculous in the free agency period.

We'd have the following roster:

IT, Rozier
Smart, ET (maybe)
KD, Crowder
Love, Olynyk
Gasol

We'd also have a few rookies from our draft choices (16, 23, 31), and the room exception of $2.9 million, probably for a backup big.  But our 9-man rotation could be as above.  A little thin in the frontcourt, especially given Gasol's injury history.  But there could be some decent centers picked at 16 and 23, so that's a potentially workable problem.  Maybe Zeller would take the room exception, for familiarity's sake.

I consider this scenario highly unlikely, because finding a sign-and-trade involving Sully could be tricky, but it's not completely impossible to have a team with reasonable depth and despite a ton of money committed to those three players.

[jpotter33]

I don't think you'd have enough space for Durant, too, not unless you completely decimate the roster. Those three would be nearly making $70M together. (Love 21.5, Gasol 21.2, and Durant 26.4)

You could if Cleveland, or a third party, were interested in a sign-and-trade for Sullinger.

On draft night, trade Amir+JJ+Young+Hunter+#3 to Memphis.
In free agency, sign Durant.  Keep Sully's cap hold.  We'd have about $7 million left, even with including cap holds for picks #16 and #23.  Spend that $7 million somehow (ET maybe).  Then send:

AB+Mickey+Sullinger signed to a contract valued at $13,344,718 in year 1.  That seems a little high, but it might not be ridiculous in the free agency period.

We'd have the following roster:

IT, Rozier
Smart, ET (maybe)
KD, Crowder
Love, Olynyk
Gasol

We'd also have a few rookies from our draft choices (16, 23, 31), and the room exception of $2.9 million, probably for a backup big.  But our 9-man rotation could be as above.  A little thin in the frontcourt, especially given Gasol's injury history.  But there could be some decent centers picked at 16 and 23, so that's a potentially workable problem.  Maybe Zeller would take the room exception, for familiarity's sake.

I consider this scenario highly unlikely, because finding a sign-and-trade involving Sully could be tricky, but it's not completely impossible to have a team with reasonable depth and despite a ton of money committed to those three players.

That's the problem - there's no way Cleveland does that. Sully's contract would hurt them more than it would help them, especially since he's just Tristan Thompson-lite at the moment.

You'd have to try and find a third party for him to go, too. Perhaps New Orleans? Could a sign-and-trade of Anderson and AB to Cleveland, Love to Boston, and Sully S&T, Mickey, and draft compensation work? You'd probably have to give up a decent pick, like the Memphis pick, in order for them to consider it, but if it gets you a Big-3 of Durant, Love, and Gasol, then it's worth it.

[saltlover]

I don't think you'd have enough space for Durant, too, not unless you completely decimate the roster. Those three would be nearly making $70M together. (Love 21.5, Gasol 21.2, and Durant 26.4)

You could if Cleveland, or a third party, were interested in a sign-and-trade for Sullinger.

On draft night, trade Amir+JJ+Young+Hunter+#3 to Memphis.
In free agency, sign Durant.  Keep Sully's cap hold.  We'd have about $7 million left, even with including cap holds for picks #16 and #23.  Spend that $7 million somehow (ET maybe).  Then send:

AB+Mickey+Sullinger signed to a contract valued at $13,344,718 in year 1.  That seems a little high, but it might not be ridiculous in the free agency period.

We'd have the following roster:

IT, Rozier
Smart, ET (maybe)
KD, Crowder
Love, Olynyk
Gasol

We'd also have a few rookies from our draft choices (16, 23, 31), and the room exception of $2.9 million, probably for a backup big.  But our 9-man rotation could be as above.  A little thin in the frontcourt, especially given Gasol's injury history.  But there could be some decent centers picked at 16 and 23, so that's a potentially workable problem.  Maybe Zeller would take the room exception, for familiarity's sake.

I consider this scenario highly unlikely, because finding a sign-and-trade involving Sully could be tricky, but it's not completely impossible to have a team with reasonable depth and despite a ton of money committed to those three players.

That's the problem - there's no way Cleveland does that. Sully's contract would hurt them more than it would help them, especially since he's just Tristan Thompson-lite at the moment.

You'd have to try and find a third party for him to go, too. Perhaps New Orleans? Could a sign-and-trade of Anderson and AB to Cleveland, Love to Boston, and Sully S&T, Mickey, and draft compensation work? You'd probably have to give up a decent pick, like the Memphis pick, in order for them to consider it, but if it gets you a Big-3 of Durant, Love, and Gasol, then it's worth it.

I'm just saying that it's possible to send out salaries that make things match enough to bring in all three while retaining a decent team around them.  We have extra picks to appease someone if necessary, although there's certainly a price I would not go above.

I think my Gasol proposal is reasonable, if Gasol is on the market.  It lets Memphis still reasonably compete with Amir and JJ, while acquiring a top 3 pick for the future, and a couple of young wings.

I just have no idea Love's value at this point.  I'm not certain anyone does.  Is Bradley, Mickey, and a $21 million trade exception worth it?  It's a huge exception, arguably worth a first round pick in its own right.  Are the Knicks interested in Sullinger?  Would they trade Anthony to Cleveland for AB, Sully, Mickey, and a future 1st from Cleveland, while we get Love?  Would we throw in a bonus first from Memphis?  Is it unreasonable to think we could wind up with Gasol, Love, and KD for Bradley, #3, the Memphis first, and spare parts?  Has LeBron broken Love beyond all repair?