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Celtics salary landscape
« on: January 10, 2016, 04:37:59 AM »

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This is the breakdown hoopshype has of the celtics salaries

http://hoopshype.com/salaries/boston_celtics/

We currently have 9 players under contract after this year

Bradley
Isaiah
Crowder
Smart
Kelly
Rozier
Young
Mickey
Hunter

2 Unrestricted Free Agents

Lee  15.5 million off the books
Turner 3.5 million

2 Team options

Amir  12 million
Jerebko 5 million

2 Restricted Free Agents- qualifying offers at around 3.5 mil

Sullinger
Zeller

This is a list of NBA free agents after this year
http://hoopshype.com/2015/12/10/nba-free-agency-2016-the-top-players/

*Picking up Amir's team option might really make sense because he  is a better fit than any free agent that we might be able to get depending on the development of a guy like Mickey. 

*Jerebko is kind of the same thing depending on if we can find better as a utility guy who can range out. We might be able to do better there.  He's probably more likely to go depending on trades and who we draft.

*Turner might be a guy we try to deal around the deadline to a team looking for a younger transitional face of their franchise like he has been for us in his short time here.

*Sullinger is a guy who is worth trying to resign depending on what his demands are. He also is probably better than any free agent out there and is our main rebounder.  If his demands are too high Ainge might look to deal him around the deadline. We have options here though.

*We want to get guys like Mickey and Rozier time going forward I would figure to go with our young wings. Lee and Turner aren't going to be here forever but Ainge might want to get them time early and jump start the process.

Ainge really has this all mapped out and should continue to be looking for star players in the draft and via trade, and players who can knock down shots and give us better talent on the wing and inside imo without hindering development.   So hold your horses a bit.  It's fun to talk about trades, but this is realistically what the Celtics are probably looking at.
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Re: Celtics salary landscape
« Reply #1 on: January 10, 2016, 08:40:23 AM »

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We've got a lot of options going into the trade deadline. If a team just wants to cut and run from a big contract we can give them Lee. If they want a talented player on a big expiring (or option) we can trade them Amir. JJ's 5 mil will also make a lot of trades for cheaper guys (like turner zeller and Sully) easier as we can now take back more money.

After this season the cap goes way up so expiring contracts will not have sp much value as teams can just absorb contracts into cap space. So if Ainge can't get a good player in a trade it wouldn't shock me at all if he took on a bad contract in exchange for a pick.

Re: Celtics salary landscape
« Reply #2 on: January 10, 2016, 09:45:36 AM »

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*Picking up Amir's team option might really make sense because he  is a better fit than any free agent that we might be able to get depending on the development of a guy like Mickey. 

*Jerebko is kind of the same thing depending on if we can find better as a utility guy who can range out. We might be able to do better there.  He's probably more likely to go depending on trades and who we draft.

*Turner might be a guy we try to deal around the deadline to a team looking for a younger transitional face of their franchise like he has been for us in his short time here.

*Sullinger is a guy who is worth trying to resign depending on what his demands are. He also is probably better than any free agent out there and is our main rebounder.  If his demands are too high Ainge might look to deal him around the deadline. We have options here though.

*We want to get guys like Mickey and Rozier time going forward I would figure to go with our young wings. Lee and Turner aren't going to be here forever but Ainge might want to get them time early and jump start the process.

I would be fine picking up Amir's option.  I don't think he is worth $12M though, so I'd like to see what else is out there.

Jerebko has to shoot better.  If he turns it around then he should probably be exercised.  If he doesn't we have to walk away.

Turner will be back, I think.  Give him a Thomas-like deal, 4 years @ $7M per.

Sullinger is probably a goner.  I just see someone throwing big money at him.


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« Reply #3 on: January 10, 2016, 10:22:50 AM »

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Sullinger is probably a goner.  I just see someone throwing big money at him.

A fool and his money are soon parted.  I think he will be gone sooner in February.

A weight clause needs to be in his contract if we sign him here.
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« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2016, 10:52:01 AM »

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*Picking up Amir's team option might really make sense because he  is a better fit than any free agent that we might be able to get depending on the development of a guy like Mickey. 

*Jerebko is kind of the same thing depending on if we can find better as a utility guy who can range out. We might be able to do better there.  He's probably more likely to go depending on trades and who we draft.

*Turner might be a guy we try to deal around the deadline to a team looking for a younger transitional face of their franchise like he has been for us in his short time here.

*Sullinger is a guy who is worth trying to resign depending on what his demands are. He also is probably better than any free agent out there and is our main rebounder.  If his demands are too high Ainge might look to deal him around the deadline. We have options here though.

*We want to get guys like Mickey and Rozier time going forward I would figure to go with our young wings. Lee and Turner aren't going to be here forever but Ainge might want to get them time early and jump start the process.

I would be fine picking up Amir's option.  I don't think he is worth $12M though, so I'd like to see what else is out there.

Jerebko has to shoot better.  If he turns it around then he should probably be exercised.  If he doesn't we have to walk away.

Turner will be back, I think.  Give him a Thomas-like deal, 4 years @ $7M per.

Sullinger is probably a goner.  I just see someone throwing big money at him.
a year or two ago i would have agreed with the bolded above. but as we travel into the brave new salary cap world, i am not so sure.

as a percentage of the total salary under the cap allowed, $12,000,000 is not what it used to be. in "past few years" terms, it might work out (in terms of its impact on the team salary cap) more like $8,000,000 used to be.

a year or two ago, would amir have been worth  $8,000,000? probably yes.

oh, and tp to the OP for a good thread with good info. thanks.  :)
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Re: Celtics salary landscape
« Reply #5 on: January 10, 2016, 11:00:42 AM »

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Big thing that jumps out is how cheap we have turner.  Like or dislike him he is paid peanuts .
Being unrestricted he will be getting a raise and might be gone.  I'd trade sullinger, Lee and Jj on the out going list if deal came along.  Lees contract makes him part of a big deal but who is out there?

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« Reply #6 on: January 10, 2016, 05:33:06 PM »

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I'm not sure what the cap was last y ear but we are currently over it.  Having Lee come off hte books next year alone should allow us to pick up the options on jerebko and amir and have a little money left to sign a free agent.  I just think we will resign sully b ecause we have the right to match on him and go over the cap.  We have a lot more flexibility resigning a guy like Sully than anyone else is the point.

Depends on what we do with Amir and Jerebko though. Lee isnt coming back.  Zeller is another guy. 

I'd bring back sully.  Make decisions on amir, jerebko and turner.  Lee isnt coming back. Zeller only in a pinch.

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« Reply #7 on: January 10, 2016, 06:00:23 PM »

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I think we are in the same position we were with bradley a few years ago where resigning Sully is our number 1 priority this offseason though.  I would try to trade Jerebko and Turner this deadline.   Unless sully and picks is going to net us a star at the deadline which i doubt anyways.

Thing is the only player jerebko an dturner would probably net us is a guy like ryan anderson and a 1  year rental for a playoff push.  So even that I dont see happening. I think Ainge wants to get Mickey playing time.

Amir is another guy we could look to deal or even Smart, but to be honest I see the celtics staying put this deadline. Letting KO develop and giving mickey a shot.

Ainge might look to consolidate our other guys for a star as well. AB and Crowder for a star wing for example but I doubt it.

I think Jerebko, lee, Turner and Zeller will all be gone and we will draft and maybe make a trade somewhere this offseason.
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