there ain't no magic

[rollie mass]

the mirage of perry jones 111 and his aphrodisiacal physical talent,
an enigma that did not get solved in boston
so what is the problem with perry,what was he like in practice,why could brad not reach him or was it just a timing thing

[Hemingway]

I don't really know Jones' game but I kind of doubt there was any high expectations that he would beat somebody out for a spot. Just looking at the numbers and the money here. Realistically, he would have had to outplay Young by a lot to justify cutting Young who still has years on his rookie deal. Danny probably figured Jones still had a tiny bit of potential and could be turned into an asset if a spot opened up to him. It didn't. But with how frequently we have made trades recently, I suspect there was a fair chance we would have made another one. 

[Csfan1984]

I believe PJ3 wouldn't hold up over a season so no team would give up anything for that. Makes more sense to try and sign him after he is cut. Since day one I said he wasn't going to cut it. Young is a better prospect and under a longer, cheaper contract. No one trades for a third depth chart player unless it's a guy under 21 still ways to go in development. PJ3 was more in a battle with JJ IMO. He wasn't close to playing near JJ's level.

[chambers]

Adam Himmelsbach ‏@AdamHimmelsbach 15h15 hours ago
Source says Celts knew there wasn't a market for Perry Jones, but they liked him & probed other trades w/thought of keeping PJ. No deals tho

I wonder what other trades they would have probed in trying to keep him?

[BudweiserCeltic]

the mirage of perry jones 111 and his aphrodisiacal physical talent,
an enigma that did not get solved in boston
so what is the problem with perry,what was he like in practice,why could brad not reach him or was it just a timing thing

1. The first thing is that you should had never romanticized the acquisition as you did.

2. The chances of Perry making the roster were always incredibly thin. EVEN if he had shown some promise, there's absolutely no one in our roster more expendable than he is.

3. The trade was always about the 2nd round pick with the bonus of having Perry to give him an outside look, partially paid by OKC, and of course another body to practice with in training camp and preseason.

[rollie mass]

hindsight is 20-20 but i enjoyed the romance
my father had a saying" talk positive think cynical"

[LarBrd33]

The blog posts about how great a fit Perry Jones was for Brad's system were always a little ridiculous.  I tried explaining this from day 1.  The trade had almost nothing to do with Perry Jones. 

We had come to agreements with Jerebko and Crowder and had an agreement in place to trade for David Lee... but before we made any of that official, we had a small window of opportunity where we still technically had a bit of cap space.   A lot of rumors suggested we made a run at trading for Danillo Gallinari.   But once that was off the table, Ainge was just looking at each and every opportunity to maximize our cap space... such as renting out cap space to teams looking for cap relief.   Teams like Philly and Oklahoma City have done this in the past.   Boston did it last year when they helped the Cavs get cap relief for signing LeBron... we took Zeller off their books and got a 1st rounder out of it.  Granted, Zeller turned out to be a pleasant surprise, but don't be fooled... that trade was more about acquiring a pick asset.  That Zeller contributed was a fine bonus.

Sure, there was a remote possibility that Perry Jones had a Zeller-esque surge, but this was more just about a small potatoes cap relief/pick acquisition.  None of our bigger plans came to fruition... this was probably Plan Z or something. 

By getting rid of Perry Jones, the Thunder saved themselves roughly $7 million in luxury tax penalties.    In return for taking on the dead salary, the Thunder sent Boston a 2019 2nd round pick via Detroit (which they had earned previously in the Reggie Jackson trade).   OKC also gave us cash money to take on Jones.    Boston gave up a heavily protected 2018 2nd in the process... one that doesn't convey unless it falls at the very end of the 2nd round:

Boston's 2018 2nd round pick to Oklahoma City protected for selections 31-55 (if this pick falls within its protected range and is therefore not conveyed, then Boston's obligation to Oklahoma City will be extinguished)

The only way we give up that 2nd is if we're a Top 5 team in 2017-18.  HIghly unlikely to happen... and if it does, we aren't going to give a crap about some worthless #55-60 pick. 

We essentially gave up nothing.

It was never about Jones.  Ainge was maximizing cap space in a tiny window of opportunity before making Crowder/Jerebko and Lee official.   We got ourselves another draft pick asset (Detroit's 2019 2nd).  I've been expecting Jones to be cut since we acquired him. 

[moiso]

Perry Jones was about about as good as Allan Ray was for the Celtics.  Obviously not even that good.