how is rj comparing to other ist round draftees

[crimson_stallion]

Everybody seems to be talking about whether Hunter can get minutes behind Bradley, Thomas and Smart - assuming Turner is gone.  I think people are too quick forget about Rozier.

Firstly, Rozier and Hunter were both available at #16, and Danny took Rozier - despite the fact that mock drafts had Hunter going before Rozier.  This to me is a clear indication that Danny sees more potential in Rozier than he does in Hunter. 

Secondly, all through the pre-season we've been hearing the vets on the team naming Rozier when they have been asked if any of the rookies are standing out - they all gush about his explosive athleticism and how hard he plays. Mickey has had one mention (by Brad) saying that he had one great practice.  Nobody has really gone out of their way to praise Hunter.  This indicates to me that Rozier is creating more of an impression (behind the scenes) on the court than any of the other rookies. 

Thirdly, so far in the preseason Hunter has averaged Per 36 Numbers of 9.9 points, 3.4 rebounds, 5.2 assists, 3.4 steals, 1.35 blocks and 2.2 turnovers.  He's shot 28% from the field, 35% form three, 75% from the line.

Rozier (Per 36) so far has averaged 25 points, 4.4 rebounds, 5.5 assists and 2.2 steals, 0 blocks and 2.2 turnovers.  He's shot 64% from the field, 60% form three and 67% from the line.

While Hunter has put up better defensive numbers, but Rozier has put up far, far superior offensive numbers. 

It doesn't look like a pre-season fluke either, because Rozier also averaged 16 Points Per 36 in Summer League.

In Summer League and preseason combined, Rozier has averaged 17 points,  4.5 rebounds and 5.8 assists per-36 while shooting 40%/43%/82%.  Impressive numbers without a doubt, and the fact that he's playing better in preseason then he did in Summer League suggests that his game is only getting stronger and stronger as the competition increases.

I really like what I've seen from all three of our rookies to be honest, but if a rookie does get significant minutes in our back-court this year I wouldn't be too quick to rush to the presumption that it's going to be Hunter.  It's probably going to be Rozier getting extra minutes in the backcourt, while I could see Hunter getting the odd minutes at SF.

[hwangjini_1]

Everybody seems to be talking about whether Hunter can get minutes behind Bradley, Thomas and Smart - assuming Turner is gone.  I think people are too quick forget about Rozier.

Firstly, Rozier and Hunter were both available at #16, and Danny took Rozier - despite the fact that mock drafts had Hunter going before Rozier.  This to me is a clear indication that Danny sees more potential in Rozier than he does in Hunter. 

Secondly, all through the pre-season we've been hearing the vets on the team naming Rozier when they have been asked if any of the rookies are standing out - they all gush about his explosive athleticism and how hard he plays. Mickey has had one mention (by Brad) saying that he had one great practice.  Nobody has really gone out of their way to praise Hunter.  This indicates to me that Rozier is creating more of an impression (behind the scenes) on the court than any of the other rookies. 

Thirdly, so far in the preseason Hunter has averaged Per 36 Numbers of 9.9 points, 3.4 rebounds, 5.2 assists, 3.4 steals, 1.35 blocks and 2.2 turnovers.  He's shot 28% from the field, 35% form three, 75% from the line.

Rozier (Per 36) so far has averaged 25 points, 4.4 rebounds, 5.5 assists and 2.2 steals, 0 blocks and 2.2 turnovers.  He's shot 64% from the field, 60% form three and 67% from the line.

While Hunter has put up better defensive numbers, but Rozier has put up far, far superior offensive numbers. 

It doesn't look like a pre-season fluke either, because Rozier also averaged 16 Points Per 36 in Summer League.

In Summer League and preseason combined, Rozier has averaged 17 points,  4.5 rebounds and 5.8 assists per-36 while shooting 40%/43%/82%.  Impressive numbers without a doubt, and the fact that he's playing better in preseason then he did in Summer League suggests that his game is only getting stronger and stronger as the competition increases.

I really like what I've seen from all three of our rookies to be honest, but if a rookie does get significant minutes in our back-court this year I wouldn't be too quick to rush to the presumption that it's going to be Hunter.  It's probably going to be Rozier getting extra minutes in the backcourt, while I could see Hunter getting the odd minutes at SF.

very good post cs. thanks and a tp.

[tankcity!]

Everybody seems to be talking about whether Hunter can get minutes behind Bradley, Thomas and Smart - assuming Turner is gone.  I think people are too quick forget about Rozier.

Firstly, Rozier and Hunter were both available at #16, and Danny took Rozier - despite the fact that mock drafts had Hunter going before Rozier.  This to me is a clear indication that Danny sees more potential in Rozier than he does in Hunter. 

Secondly, all through the pre-season we've been hearing the vets on the team naming Rozier when they have been asked if any of the rookies are standing out - they all gush about his explosive athleticism and how hard he plays. Mickey has had one mention (by Brad) saying that he had one great practice.  Nobody has really gone out of their way to praise Hunter.  This indicates to me that Rozier is creating more of an impression (behind the scenes) on the court than any of the other rookies. 

Thirdly, so far in the preseason Hunter has averaged Per 36 Numbers of 9.9 points, 3.4 rebounds, 5.2 assists, 3.4 steals, 1.35 blocks and 2.2 turnovers.  He's shot 28% from the field, 35% form three, 75% from the line.

Rozier (Per 36) so far has averaged 25 points, 4.4 rebounds, 5.5 assists and 2.2 steals, 0 blocks and 2.2 turnovers.  He's shot 64% from the field, 60% form three and 67% from the line.

While Hunter has put up better defensive numbers, but Rozier has put up far, far superior offensive numbers. 

It doesn't look like a pre-season fluke either, because Rozier also averaged 16 Points Per 36 in Summer League.

In Summer League and preseason combined, Rozier has averaged 17 points,  4.5 rebounds and 5.8 assists per-36 while shooting 40%/43%/82%.  Impressive numbers without a doubt, and the fact that he's playing better in preseason then he did in Summer League suggests that his game is only getting stronger and stronger as the competition increases.

I really like what I've seen from all three of our rookies to be honest, but if a rookie does get significant minutes in our back-court this year I wouldn't be too quick to rush to the presumption that it's going to be Hunter.  It's probably going to be Rozier getting extra minutes in the backcourt, while I could see Hunter getting the odd minutes at SF.

Brilliant, TP Sir

[tankcity!]

Not bad, actually.   If we're just looking at his numbers (points + rebounds + steals + assists... subtract missed shots and turnovers), he's got an EFF of 7.5.   That puts him 20th amongst rookies.   Another mild steal by Ainge.   I dont' expect him to get any meaningful minutes for us this year unless a large trade clears up the roster.  Hunter should spend the bulk of his time in D-League.  Seems the biggest issue with him might be that he's a "shooter" who thus far through summerleague and preseason has struggled shooting.

I think you would have to not watch any of these preaseason games to come to the conclusion that RJ is just a shooter. RJ s a player who has great instincts for the game and is able to read what the defense is doing against him. Thats pretty impressive for a rookie.

He shows some nice awareness.  Not sure if he can do it against rotation players.  He might have a long-term future, but as long as this team is healthy and fully intact, he's not getting minutes this year.  Injuries and trades could pave the way for spot minutes off the bench for him.

He has been making those plays against actual NBA rotational players.

Then he should have no trouble making an impact on the Red Claws

I'd be careful...I don't think he will be on the red claws to be honest. That is for Mickey and Young. RJ will be a benchwarmer in the beginning. I will say however that I don't know why people think Jerebko is going to stay in the rotation. He hasn't been all that impressive so far to be honest. And his value depreciates if he plays SF.

[takeittotherim]

I think that RJ will work himself into the rotation early in the regular season. CBS loves his "feel for the game" and he makes plays for others while he is on the floor.  I believe he will get his minutes from everyone, taking a minute or two from each player in the rotation (which won't be noticeable).  His 3 pt shot, range and ability is a huge bonus.  Time will show his real value to the team is that of being a playmaker (which will be best demonstrated when he plays with the rotational players).

Maine will serve no purpose for RJ or the team. He is a quick study and needs nba minutes and practice time.

[rollie mass]

 maybe he should be getting big game time on a limited basis with red claws but i believe rj plays better surrounded by better talent--a gigi role is not out of question but a good run with the rookies can't hurt

[aingeforthree]

I don't know where he lands in a re-draft 3-4 years down the road.  But I see him as a great addition, and a better version of Mike Miller if I'm comparing as of now.  He can already shoot from down town, and looks to be a better defender than Miller at this point.

Let's see how it unfolds 3-4 years into his development.  When you have that quick of a release, you can add to any ball club.