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Re: Zeller's Trade Value
« Reply #15 on: July 25, 2015, 01:07:20 AM »

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The one thing that could greatly increase Zeller's value is if he developed a 3-point shot.  He went for a very respectable 48% from between the foul line and 3-point line last season.  If he can add 2-3 feet to his range, his value could jump.

Re: Zeller's Trade Value
« Reply #16 on: July 25, 2015, 01:38:53 AM »

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The one thing that could greatly increase Zeller's value is if he developed a 3-point shot.  He went for a very respectable 48% from between the foul line and 3-point line last season.  If he can add 2-3 feet to his range, his value could jump.
And then we'll have another stretch four lol

Re: Zeller's Trade Value
« Reply #17 on: July 26, 2015, 11:46:08 AM »

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Zeller's most value is to us. He is our best center IMO not saying he's great but he is solid for 20-25 minutes. Not sure why we would trade him right now or at all unless it was in a package to get a much better player, forget about more draft picks that's the last thing we need.

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« Reply #18 on: July 26, 2015, 01:37:42 PM »

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Zeller's most value is to us.
Precisely.

Re: Zeller's Trade Value
« Reply #19 on: July 26, 2015, 02:22:42 PM »

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However, for us I think Sully has the least value, as he's a RFA next year, but also his role this year can probably be better filled by David Lee.  I think Olynyk would have the most value, as he is cost-controlled for an additional season.  So the times I propose trades with a big, I go with Sully if I think the other team needs less value, and Olynyk if they need more, because I think Sully is better for other teams than our own, and maybe the other way around for Zeller.

I think Ainge's moves were made in the context to protect us from Sully's historically bad commitment to being in shape and unprofessionalism.  Lee and Amir make him less necessary, ditto for Jerebko.   If he does not pan out and show up in shape, he may get a rude awakening.  Even a case could be made for Mickey being taken as insurance against Jared.

That's a great observation and a great way of putting it.

Re: Zeller's Trade Value
« Reply #20 on: July 26, 2015, 02:23:54 PM »

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If trading for a pick, I'd say a first round pick in the 15-25 range.

If trading for a veteran, I'd say a role player who is a high quality bench player to borderline starter. Only because a center is more valuable (well harder to fill) than most other positions. So a quality backup center should get you something a bit better at another position.

If trading for a young player, someone with a low ceiling (Shabazz Mohammed?). Or who has been a complete bust up until this point (like Anthony Bennett).
with you on the first 2 paragraphs.  don't agree on the value in terms of young players.  I think Shabazz could turn out to be decent but he's not a center.  tough call on that.
as for Bennett, we're helping Minny by taking him off their hands.  better be a lot more coming back from them if they're getting Zeller.

Interesting that Shabazz just went for a protected 2nd rounder.

Re: Zeller's Trade Value
« Reply #21 on: July 26, 2015, 02:39:30 PM »

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If trading for a pick, I'd say a first round pick in the 15-25 range.

If trading for a veteran, I'd say a role player who is a high quality bench player to borderline starter. Only because a center is more valuable (well harder to fill) than most other positions. So a quality backup center should get you something a bit better at another position.

If trading for a young player, someone with a low ceiling (Shabazz Mohammed?). Or who has been a complete bust up until this point (like Anthony Bennett).
with you on the first 2 paragraphs.  don't agree on the value in terms of young players.  I think Shabazz could turn out to be decent but he's not a center.  tough call on that.
as for Bennett, we're helping Minny by taking him off their hands.  better be a lot more coming back from them if they're getting Zeller.

Interesting that Shabazz just went for a protected 2nd rounder.

Wrong Shabazz.  Shabazz Napier just got traded from Miami to Orlando to alleviate luxury tax concerns.