Lamarcus Aldridge or Kevin Love?

[gpap]

Aldridge by a country mile, because:

1. He's a bit taller (6'11" vs barely 6'10")
2. He's a lot longer (7'5" wingspan vs 7'0" wingspan)
3. He's a lot more mobile / agile
4. He's a more capable defender and rim protector due to his size/length
5. He's a more capable P&R defender due to his improved mobility
6. He's a more dangerous 1-on-1 scorer, as his length allows him to shoot over defenders
7. He's less injury prone
8. He's a better locker room guy (Love by now is known to be a diva, a bad leader, a quitter)
9. He's a more versatile scorer (happy to score inside, outside, or off the dribble)
10. He can play PF and spend some time at C (Love can only play PF)
11.  He's shown he can carry a team to the playoffs multiple times as it's #1 option - Love needed to ride Lebron/Irving to get there.

What does Love offer over Aldridge right now aside from being 3 years younger (which given his injury/health risk, is a moot point) and being a slightly better rebounder?  Nothing at all, really.

No he's not.

From where did you hear this?

I found that bolded part interesting too. All Kevin Love has ever done since he's gotten to Cleveland was put his head down and go to work. He hadn't openly complained, he said from the very beginning that'd he be there the length of his contract, and he's rooting on his teammates though the playoffs.

If anything, the media has falsely painted him this way. Actually, now that I think of it, Celticsblog has. 

Woah woah woah. SINCE he got to Cleveland. You know how he got to Cleveland? By quitting on his Minnesota team! Not a diva? He forced his way out of Minnesota by requesting a trade because they didn't make the playoffs! A good leader, you say? The only thing he led the timberwolves to was right back to the cellar of the western conference.

Stop with all the love for love. He will never be able to be a #1 option on a championship caliber team. He can't create his own shot. He couldn't even get a team to the playoffs as a number #1 option, and he had 6 years to do it.

Sorry but you're illogical and unreasonable hate for Kevin Love obscures any credibility you try to lend to support your argument.

Minnesota is a horrible franchise run by a horrible group of people who have no clue how to run a team.

KG also wanted out for the same exact reason.

So please, stop your hate for Love.

If you want to make an argument that he isn't a franchise player or difference maker, that's one thing.
But to criticize him for wanting out of the armpit of the NBA known as the Minnesota Timberwolves is VERY weak.

Sure Kevin Love demanded a trade. Lot's of NBA Superstars have. You act like Kevin Love is the first to do it. 

Let me name a few:
Chris Paul
Shaq
Baron Davis
Wilt Chamberlin
Dwight Howard
Melo
Kobe Bryant

It happens all the time. So that list above, you wouldn't take any of them in their prime because they're 'Divas'? Give me a break, secondly, I found a little quote,

It's going to be very difficult for him," Bosh said of Love's new task. "Even if I was in his corner and I was able to tell him what to expect and what to do, it still doesn't make any difference. You still have to go through things, you still have to figure out things on your own. It's extremely difficult and extremely frustrating. He's going to have to deal with that.

That's Chris Bosh saying it's going to be hard for Love to play with James right after the trade. Finally, the only thing Love has really said is he's expecting to be back, and he's expecting to be a Cav next year, and he's excited to win as many championships as possible.

Again, it's CelticsBlog that puts the unnecessary hate on Kevin Love.

Not sure if you misunderstood me but I was agreeing with you that a lot of people on this site have  unwarranted dislike for Kevin Love and was vehemently DISAGREEING with Bucketgetter and others for their inaccurate perception that Love is a diva and not a "team player."

Again, not sure if you misunderstood, but I agreed with Kevin Love for wanting out of that crap hole in Minnesota. The team is horribly run. I would also take Love on my team in a heartbeat.

I also find it laughable that some think Love is a "diva" because Ricky Rubio of all people (what the hell has Rubio ever done in the NBA) labeled Love as someone is not a "team player."

Again, I am agreeing with you in that I am also a Love fan and disagreeing with the haters.

Figured that was pretty clear in my posts.

[JohnBoy65]

Not sure if you misunderstood me but I was agreeing with you that a lot of people on this site have  unwarranted dislike for Kevin Love and was vehemently DISAGREEING with Bucketgetter and others for their inaccurate perception that Love is a diva and not a "team player."

Again, not sure if you misunderstood, but I agreed with Kevin Love for wanting out of that crap hole in Minnesota. The team is horribly run. I would also take Love on my team in a heartbeat.

I also find it laughable that some think Love is a "diva" because Ricky Rubio of all people (what the hell has Rubio ever done in the NBA) labeled Love as someone is not a "team player."

Again, I am agreeing with you in that I am also a Love fan and disagreeing with the haters.

Figured that was pretty clear in my posts.

No, I understood. Was using your quote to help make a point in my response to bucketgetter. Sorry for the confusion! 

[aporel#18]

We need a poll for this..

No pole is needed only common sense.

LA is a man

Love is is wussie  , fragile , breaks ,  whines .......that equals a Laker in my mind.

TP. Kevin Love screams "laker" to me, and I'd rather pay that type of money to Aldridge or Marc Gasol. No other big outside of Anthony Davis deserves such a big contract in the League. Maybe Embiid and Noel in a few years... maybe Okafor and Towns, too.

[D.o.s.]

Love has shown a disinterest in playing defense that I think many Celtics fans would find particularly abhorrent.

I would also posit that leaving Minnesota for Cleveland because you wanted to escape inept management is a bit like leaving a brothel for a massage parlour that offers happy endings.

[D.o.s.]

Reality check

http://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/38tpq5/im_kirk_goldsberry_from_grantland_ask_me_anything/crxs5mu

As if anything from r/nba can be construed as 'reality,' it's worth noting that Goldsbury is as connected as A. Sherrod Blakely. That is to say, not at all.

[celticsclay]

Love has shown a disinterest in playing defense that I think many Celtics fans would find particularly abhorrent.

I would also posit that leaving Minnesota for Cleveland because you wanted to escape inept management is a bit like leaving a brothel for a massage parlour that offers happy endings.

This is great

[Bucketgetter]

Aldridge by a country mile, because:

1. He's a bit taller (6'11" vs barely 6'10")
2. He's a lot longer (7'5" wingspan vs 7'0" wingspan)
3. He's a lot more mobile / agile
4. He's a more capable defender and rim protector due to his size/length
5. He's a more capable P&R defender due to his improved mobility
6. He's a more dangerous 1-on-1 scorer, as his length allows him to shoot over defenders
7. He's less injury prone
8. He's a better locker room guy (Love by now is known to be a diva, a bad leader, a quitter)
9. He's a more versatile scorer (happy to score inside, outside, or off the dribble)
10. He can play PF and spend some time at C (Love can only play PF)
11.  He's shown he can carry a team to the playoffs multiple times as it's #1 option - Love needed to ride Lebron/Irving to get there.

What does Love offer over Aldridge right now aside from being 3 years younger (which given his injury/health risk, is a moot point) and being a slightly better rebounder?  Nothing at all, really.

No he's not.

From where did you hear this?

I found that bolded part interesting too. All Kevin Love has ever done since he's gotten to Cleveland was put his head down and go to work. He hadn't openly complained, he said from the very beginning that'd he be there the length of his contract, and he's rooting on his teammates though the playoffs.

If anything, the media has falsely painted him this way. Actually, now that I think of it, Celticsblog has. 

Woah woah woah. SINCE he got to Cleveland. You know how he got to Cleveland? By quitting on his Minnesota team! Not a diva? He forced his way out of Minnesota by requesting a trade because they didn't make the playoffs! A good leader, you say? The only thing he led the timberwolves to was right back to the cellar of the western conference.

Stop with all the love for love. He will never be able to be a #1 option on a championship caliber team. He can't create his own shot. He couldn't even get a team to the playoffs as a number #1 option, and he had 6 years to do it.

Sorry but you're illogical and unreasonable hate for Kevin Love obscures any credibility you try to lend to support your argument.

Minnesota is a horrible franchise run by a horrible group of people who have no clue how to run a team.

KG also wanted out for the same exact reason.

So please, stop your hate for Love.

If you want to make an argument that he isn't a franchise player or difference maker, that's one thing.
But to criticize him for wanting out of the armpit of the NBA known as the Minnesota Timberwolves is VERY weak.

Sure Kevin Love demanded a trade. Lot's of NBA Superstars have. You act like Kevin Love is the first to do it. 

Let me name a few:
Chris Paul
Shaq
Baron Davis
Wilt Chamberlin
Dwight Howard
Melo
Kobe Bryant

It happens all the time. So that list above, you wouldn't take any of them in their prime because they're 'Divas'? Give me a break, secondly, I found a little quote,

It's going to be very difficult for him," Bosh said of Love's new task. "Even if I was in his corner and I was able to tell him what to expect and what to do, it still doesn't make any difference. You still have to go through things, you still have to figure out things on your own. It's extremely difficult and extremely frustrating. He's going to have to deal with that.

That's Chris Bosh saying it's going to be hard for Love to play with James right after the trade. Finally, the only thing Love has really said is he's expecting to be back, and he's expecting to be a Cav next year, and he's excited to win as many championships as possible.

Again, it's CelticsBlog that puts the unnecessary hate on Kevin Love.

Not sure if you misunderstood me but I was agreeing with you that a lot of people on this site have  unwarranted dislike for Kevin Love and was vehemently DISAGREEING with Bucketgetter and others for their inaccurate perception that Love is a diva and not a "team player."

Again, not sure if you misunderstood, but I agreed with Kevin Love for wanting out of that crap hole in Minnesota. The team is horribly run. I would also take Love on my team in a heartbeat.

I also find it laughable that some think Love is a "diva" because Ricky Rubio of all people (what the hell has Rubio ever done in the NBA) labeled Love as someone is not a "team player."

Again, I am agreeing with you in that I am also a Love fan and disagreeing with the haters.

Figured that was pretty clear in my posts.

Comparing Love to that group proves my point he is a diva. Shaq, Melo, Kobe, Howard, these guys are the definition of divas. So since Minnesota is a bad franchise, Kevin Love can quit on them and force his way out? That's being a diva. And even if Minnesota used to be horribly run, they sure turned it around when they traded his pathetic ass for Wiggins. Seems like a pretty good deal.

[gpap]

Not sure if you misunderstood me but I was agreeing with you that a lot of people on this site have  unwarranted dislike for Kevin Love and was vehemently DISAGREEING with Bucketgetter and others for their inaccurate perception that Love is a diva and not a "team player."

Again, not sure if you misunderstood, but I agreed with Kevin Love for wanting out of that crap hole in Minnesota. The team is horribly run. I would also take Love on my team in a heartbeat.

I also find it laughable that some think Love is a "diva" because Ricky Rubio of all people (what the hell has Rubio ever done in the NBA) labeled Love as someone is not a "team player."

Again, I am agreeing with you in that I am also a Love fan and disagreeing with the haters.

Figured that was pretty clear in my posts.

No, I understood. Was using your quote to help make a point in my response to bucketgetter. Sorry for the confusion! 

Yeah I agree with you in that I don't understand the hate for Love.

[gpap]

Aldridge by a country mile, because:

1. He's a bit taller (6'11" vs barely 6'10")
2. He's a lot longer (7'5" wingspan vs 7'0" wingspan)
3. He's a lot more mobile / agile
4. He's a more capable defender and rim protector due to his size/length
5. He's a more capable P&R defender due to his improved mobility
6. He's a more dangerous 1-on-1 scorer, as his length allows him to shoot over defenders
7. He's less injury prone
8. He's a better locker room guy (Love by now is known to be a diva, a bad leader, a quitter)
9. He's a more versatile scorer (happy to score inside, outside, or off the dribble)
10. He can play PF and spend some time at C (Love can only play PF)
11.  He's shown he can carry a team to the playoffs multiple times as it's #1 option - Love needed to ride Lebron/Irving to get there.

What does Love offer over Aldridge right now aside from being 3 years younger (which given his injury/health risk, is a moot point) and being a slightly better rebounder?  Nothing at all, really.

No he's not.

From where did you hear this?

I found that bolded part interesting too. All Kevin Love has ever done since he's gotten to Cleveland was put his head down and go to work. He hadn't openly complained, he said from the very beginning that'd he be there the length of his contract, and he's rooting on his teammates though the playoffs.

If anything, the media has falsely painted him this way. Actually, now that I think of it, Celticsblog has. 

Woah woah woah. SINCE he got to Cleveland. You know how he got to Cleveland? By quitting on his Minnesota team! Not a diva? He forced his way out of Minnesota by requesting a trade because they didn't make the playoffs! A good leader, you say? The only thing he led the timberwolves to was right back to the cellar of the western conference.

Stop with all the love for love. He will never be able to be a #1 option on a championship caliber team. He can't create his own shot. He couldn't even get a team to the playoffs as a number #1 option, and he had 6 years to do it.

Sorry but you're illogical and unreasonable hate for Kevin Love obscures any credibility you try to lend to support your argument.

Minnesota is a horrible franchise run by a horrible group of people who have no clue how to run a team.

KG also wanted out for the same exact reason.

So please, stop your hate for Love.

If you want to make an argument that he isn't a franchise player or difference maker, that's one thing.
But to criticize him for wanting out of the armpit of the NBA known as the Minnesota Timberwolves is VERY weak.

Sure Kevin Love demanded a trade. Lot's of NBA Superstars have. You act like Kevin Love is the first to do it. 

Let me name a few:
Chris Paul
Shaq
Baron Davis
Wilt Chamberlin
Dwight Howard
Melo
Kobe Bryant

It happens all the time. So that list above, you wouldn't take any of them in their prime because they're 'Divas'? Give me a break, secondly, I found a little quote,

It's going to be very difficult for him," Bosh said of Love's new task. "Even if I was in his corner and I was able to tell him what to expect and what to do, it still doesn't make any difference. You still have to go through things, you still have to figure out things on your own. It's extremely difficult and extremely frustrating. He's going to have to deal with that.

That's Chris Bosh saying it's going to be hard for Love to play with James right after the trade. Finally, the only thing Love has really said is he's expecting to be back, and he's expecting to be a Cav next year, and he's excited to win as many championships as possible.

Again, it's CelticsBlog that puts the unnecessary hate on Kevin Love.

Not sure if you misunderstood me but I was agreeing with you that a lot of people on this site have  unwarranted dislike for Kevin Love and was vehemently DISAGREEING with Bucketgetter and others for their inaccurate perception that Love is a diva and not a "team player."

Again, not sure if you misunderstood, but I agreed with Kevin Love for wanting out of that crap hole in Minnesota. The team is horribly run. I would also take Love on my team in a heartbeat.

I also find it laughable that some think Love is a "diva" because Ricky Rubio of all people (what the hell has Rubio ever done in the NBA) labeled Love as someone is not a "team player."

Again, I am agreeing with you in that I am also a Love fan and disagreeing with the haters.

Figured that was pretty clear in my posts.

Comparing Love to that group proves my point he is a diva. Shaq, Melo, Kobe, Howard, these guys are the definition of divas. So since Minnesota is a bad franchise, Kevin Love can quit on them and force his way out? That's being a diva. And even if Minnesota used to be horribly run, they sure turned it around when they traded his pathetic ass for Wiggins. Seems like a pretty good deal.

Except, you know, that minor detail about how Minnesota had the worse record in the league this season.

[byennie]

Comparing Love to that group proves my point he is a diva. Shaq, Melo, Kobe, Howard, these guys are the definition of divas. So since Minnesota is a bad franchise, Kevin Love can quit on them and force his way out? That's being a diva. And even if Minnesota used to be horribly run, they sure turned it around when they traded his pathetic ass for Wiggins. Seems like a pretty good deal.

Meh. He gave an employer not of his choosing 6 years of service, watched them fail miserably as they always have, and eventually wanted to work somewhere else when it was clear they were wasting his talents. Unless it becomes a pattern, I don't blame him at all or consider him a diva.

[Bucketgetter]

Aldridge by a country mile, because:

1. He's a bit taller (6'11" vs barely 6'10")
2. He's a lot longer (7'5" wingspan vs 7'0" wingspan)
3. He's a lot more mobile / agile
4. He's a more capable defender and rim protector due to his size/length
5. He's a more capable P&R defender due to his improved mobility
6. He's a more dangerous 1-on-1 scorer, as his length allows him to shoot over defenders
7. He's less injury prone
8. He's a better locker room guy (Love by now is known to be a diva, a bad leader, a quitter)
9. He's a more versatile scorer (happy to score inside, outside, or off the dribble)
10. He can play PF and spend some time at C (Love can only play PF)
11.  He's shown he can carry a team to the playoffs multiple times as it's #1 option - Love needed to ride Lebron/Irving to get there.

What does Love offer over Aldridge right now aside from being 3 years younger (which given his injury/health risk, is a moot point) and being a slightly better rebounder?  Nothing at all, really.

No he's not.

From where did you hear this?

I found that bolded part interesting too. All Kevin Love has ever done since he's gotten to Cleveland was put his head down and go to work. He hadn't openly complained, he said from the very beginning that'd he be there the length of his contract, and he's rooting on his teammates though the playoffs.

If anything, the media has falsely painted him this way. Actually, now that I think of it, Celticsblog has. 

Woah woah woah. SINCE he got to Cleveland. You know how he got to Cleveland? By quitting on his Minnesota team! Not a diva? He forced his way out of Minnesota by requesting a trade because they didn't make the playoffs! A good leader, you say? The only thing he led the timberwolves to was right back to the cellar of the western conference.

Stop with all the love for love. He will never be able to be a #1 option on a championship caliber team. He can't create his own shot. He couldn't even get a team to the playoffs as a number #1 option, and he had 6 years to do it.

Sorry but you're illogical and unreasonable hate for Kevin Love obscures any credibility you try to lend to support your argument.

Minnesota is a horrible franchise run by a horrible group of people who have no clue how to run a team.

KG also wanted out for the same exact reason.

So please, stop your hate for Love.

If you want to make an argument that he isn't a franchise player or difference maker, that's one thing.
But to criticize him for wanting out of the armpit of the NBA known as the Minnesota Timberwolves is VERY weak.

Sure Kevin Love demanded a trade. Lot's of NBA Superstars have. You act like Kevin Love is the first to do it. 

Let me name a few:
Chris Paul
Shaq
Baron Davis
Wilt Chamberlin
Dwight Howard
Melo
Kobe Bryant

It happens all the time. So that list above, you wouldn't take any of them in their prime because they're 'Divas'? Give me a break, secondly, I found a little quote,

It's going to be very difficult for him," Bosh said of Love's new task. "Even if I was in his corner and I was able to tell him what to expect and what to do, it still doesn't make any difference. You still have to go through things, you still have to figure out things on your own. It's extremely difficult and extremely frustrating. He's going to have to deal with that.

That's Chris Bosh saying it's going to be hard for Love to play with James right after the trade. Finally, the only thing Love has really said is he's expecting to be back, and he's expecting to be a Cav next year, and he's excited to win as many championships as possible.

Again, it's CelticsBlog that puts the unnecessary hate on Kevin Love.

Not sure if you misunderstood me but I was agreeing with you that a lot of people on this site have  unwarranted dislike for Kevin Love and was vehemently DISAGREEING with Bucketgetter and others for their inaccurate perception that Love is a diva and not a "team player."

Again, not sure if you misunderstood, but I agreed with Kevin Love for wanting out of that crap hole in Minnesota. The team is horribly run. I would also take Love on my team in a heartbeat.

I also find it laughable that some think Love is a "diva" because Ricky Rubio of all people (what the hell has Rubio ever done in the NBA) labeled Love as someone is not a "team player."

Again, I am agreeing with you in that I am also a Love fan and disagreeing with the haters.

Figured that was pretty clear in my posts.

Comparing Love to that group proves my point he is a diva. Shaq, Melo, Kobe, Howard, these guys are the definition of divas. So since Minnesota is a bad franchise, Kevin Love can quit on them and force his way out? That's being a diva. And even if Minnesota used to be horribly run, they sure turned it around when they traded his pathetic ass for Wiggins. Seems like a pretty good deal.

Except, you know, that minor detail about how Minnesota had the worse record in the league this season.

Called planning for the future. Timberwolves get to add more young talent to a team that is already loaded with it. They're in a better situation than the celtics right now.