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Is making up injuries legal?
« on: April 22, 2015, 06:32:54 PM »

Offline celticsclay

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I actually am legitimately serious about this in light of the fact that Rondo was shut down for a "back injury" when he is clearly not being shut down for an injury. Is this legal? Why are the Mavs doing it? What is the benefit to them? There is obviously bad blood between them and Rondo at this point so it doesn't seem like they are doing it to safe Rondo's face/rep.

Also, is this even legal? I feel like there have to be rules about kicking a player from a team and claiming he is injured. Please keep this thread focused on this one question. Comments on his play, future, contract etc can go in the other thread.

Re: Is making up injuries legal?
« Reply #1 on: April 22, 2015, 06:35:50 PM »

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I actually am legitimately serious about this in light of the fact that Rondo was shut down for a "back injury" when he is clearly not being shut down for an injury. Is this legal? Why are the Mavs doing it? What is the benefit to them? There is obviously bad blood between them and Rondo at this point so it doesn't seem like they are doing it to safe Rondo's face/rep.

Also, is this even legal? I feel like there have to be rules about kicking a player from a team and claiming he is injured. Please keep this thread focused on this one question. Comments on his play, future, contract etc can go in the other thread.

Are they docking him pay as well?  If not, I don't see anything wrong with their tact.

Re: Is making up injuries legal?
« Reply #2 on: April 22, 2015, 06:37:24 PM »

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I actually am legitimately serious about this in light of the fact that Rondo was shut down for a "back injury" when he is clearly not being shut down for an injury. Is this legal? Why are the Mavs doing it? What is the benefit to them? There is obviously bad blood between them and Rondo at this point so it doesn't seem like they are doing it to safe Rondo's face/rep.

Also, is this even legal? I feel like there have to be rules about kicking a player from a team and claiming he is injured. Please keep this thread focused on this one question. Comments on his play, future, contract etc can go in the other thread.

Are they docking him pay as well?  If not, I don't see anything wrong with their tact.

Well I know in the NFL there are strict rules about listing players on the injury report and I believe Belechek has been warned, if not fined, for not complying with it. I am not sure if such rules exist in the NBA. So I guess i have two questions. 1) is it legal 2) Why are they doing it?

Re: Is making up injuries legal?
« Reply #3 on: April 22, 2015, 06:44:35 PM »

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I actually am legitimately serious about this in light of the fact that Rondo was shut down for a "back injury" when he is clearly not being shut down for an injury. Is this legal? Why are the Mavs doing it? What is the benefit to them? There is obviously bad blood between them and Rondo at this point so it doesn't seem like they are doing it to safe Rondo's face/rep.

Also, is this even legal? I feel like there have to be rules about kicking a player from a team and claiming he is injured. Please keep this thread focused on this one question. Comments on his play, future, contract etc can go in the other thread.

Are they docking him pay as well?  If not, I don't see anything wrong with their tact.

Well I know in the NFL there are strict rules about listing players on the injury report and I believe Belechek has been warned, if not fined, for not complying with it. I am not sure if such rules exist in the NBA. So I guess i have two questions. 1) is it legal 2) Why are they doing it?

Not sure how NFL works, but suspect they are doing it as a favor to Rondo's agent who is taking a big haircut right now after helping Dallas get their trade target. 

Re: Is making up injuries legal?
« Reply #4 on: April 22, 2015, 06:59:42 PM »

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I think it is Rondo who did it.

Re: Is making up injuries legal?
« Reply #5 on: April 22, 2015, 07:02:36 PM »

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I actually am legitimately serious about this in light of the fact that Rondo was shut down for a "back injury" when he is clearly not being shut down for an injury. Is this legal? Why are the Mavs doing it? What is the benefit to them? There is obviously bad blood between them and Rondo at this point so it doesn't seem like they are doing it to safe Rondo's face/rep.

Also, is this even legal? I feel like there have to be rules about kicking a player from a team and claiming he is injured. Please keep this thread focused on this one question. Comments on his play, future, contract etc can go in the other thread.

Are they docking him pay as well?  If not, I don't see anything wrong with their tact.

Well I know in the NFL there are strict rules about listing players on the injury report and I believe Belechek has been warned, if not fined, for not complying with it. I am not sure if such rules exist in the NBA. So I guess i have two questions. 1) is it legal 2) Why are they doing it?

I think the idea behind that rule is to avoid exaggerating injuries for guys who are definitely going to play, in order to throw off the other team's gameplanning.  I don't think it'd work the same way for inventing a phantom injury when the guy really is not going to be playing regardless.

Re: Is making up injuries legal?
« Reply #6 on: April 22, 2015, 07:06:27 PM »

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I'm just not aware of injury police. It's probably a rule that's barely a rule.  Like how everyone does something for years in front of cameras and nobody even knows about it until suddenly the Patriots are "caught" doing it right before a Super Bowl. One of those things.

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« Reply #7 on: April 22, 2015, 07:21:08 PM »

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I'm just not aware of injury police. It's probably a rule that's barely a rule.  Like how everyone does something for years in front of cameras and nobody even knows about it until suddenly the Patriots are "caught" doing it right before a Super Bowl. One of those things.

Fair points. Thanks for the input. Also a good point about them possibly doing it as a favor to Rondo's agent. I hadn't thought of that angle.

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« Reply #8 on: April 22, 2015, 07:52:33 PM »

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I actually am legitimately serious about this in light of the fact that Rondo was shut down for a "back injury" when he is clearly not being shut down for an injury. Is this legal? Why are the Mavs doing it? What is the benefit to them? There is obviously bad blood between them and Rondo at this point so it doesn't seem like they are doing it to safe Rondo's face/rep.

Also, is this even legal? I feel like there have to be rules about kicking a player from a team and claiming he is injured. Please keep this thread focused on this one question. Comments on his play, future, contract etc can go in the other thread.

Are they docking him pay as well?  If not, I don't see anything wrong with their tact.

Well I know in the NFL there are strict rules about listing players on the injury report and I believe Belechek has been warned, if not fined, for not complying with it. I am not sure if such rules exist in the NBA. So I guess i have two questions. 1) is it legal 2) Why are they doing it?

The NFL does it to protect the "integrity" of the game regarding point spreads and linesmakers. Transparency is critical to that. There have been "problems" in the past. Since so much of the NFL interest by folk revolves around betting, far more than any other sport, if information is withheld, that undermines the NFL's legitimacy in betting circles.

Kind of like SEC laws about inside information.

If you say a player is OUT, he's out. Everyone knows and people strategize and plan their wagers. That's why the injury and the probability status (probable, doubtful, questionable) as well as the specific injury/body part are listed for all NFL injuries.


Re: Is making up injuries legal?
« Reply #9 on: April 23, 2015, 07:18:56 AM »

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If the player is ok with it, I doubt it's a big deal.

If a player was essentially being suspended with pay, and the player is healthy, I could see the Union having issue with it, as a report of an injury could affect a player's value in free agency.


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