ready for another tear down

[konkmv]

I have a feeling that ainge will push the destructon button once again this summer...he has not found the star player he wants and will not reach the playoffs... there is one vital question... can we reach the playoffs next year? Lets see...
cavs hawks bulls wizzards and raptors are better teams than us
indiana will have george next year
bucks will have parker next year
miami will have bosh next year
are we sure that we will be better than the hornetts or the pistons?
if we do not manage to get love, monroe, buttler or leonard expect more changes...
why pay sully and zeller When you can get 3 or 4 for picks for them? Will we be much worse if we sign koufos and resign bass?
is turner a starting sf?
Can you win a championship with 2 undersized guards like bradley and thomas?
I think we overachieved because of stevens and because many opponents had major injuries
ainge knows he has to find the one guy to build around... celtics always found them through draft...

[Ilikesports17]

I have a feeling that ainge will push the destructon button once again this summer...he has not found the star player he wants and will not reach the playoffs... there is one vital question... can we reach the playoffs next year? Lets see...
cavs hawks bulls wizzards and raptors are better teams than us
indiana will have george next year
bucks will have parker next year
miami will have bosh next year
are we sure that we will be better than the hornetts or the pistons?
if we do not manage to get love, monroe, buttler or leonard expect more changes...
why pay sully and zeller When you can get 3 or 4 for picks for them? Will we be much worse if we sign koufos and resign bass?
is turner a starting sf?
Can you win a championship with 2 undersized guards like bradley and thomas?
I think we overachieved because of stevens and because many opponents had major injuries
ainge knows he has to find the one guy to build around... celtics always found them through draft...

I think we can reach the playoffs next year. Miami could lose Deng and Dragic and Wade is going ot get old at some point, the Hornets look like they will get worse next year unless we see an emergence of Vonleh, the Pistons could get better than us but it is looking like they will lose Monroe and maybe Jackson and the money tied up with Smith prevents them from replacing those guys.

You can absolutely win a championship with two undersized guards if your other two gaurds are Marcus Smart (6'3-4" with long arms and is a beast) and James Young (6'6-7" with long arms)

I doubt we see destruction because everyone on the team is young, improving, and on decent contracts. I could see him moving a lot of these guys but not to "blow it up" so much as to acquire new talent.

e.g. I think Bradley is in the long term plans but if DA trades Bradley to Utah for #12 and Rodney Hood I wouldnt call it blowing it up so much as continuing to make prudent trades and increasing the overall talent level of the team

[Csfan1984]

I myself would continue to build through draft and if good deals come along make them. I'm not for going after 2nd tier FAs  or overpaying for our own vets.

[konkmv]

If we trade bradley sully and turner and do not resign players like bass jj datome..isn't it a tear down?

[ThePoeticWolf]

I have a feeling that ainge will push the destructon button once again this summer...he has not found the star player he wants and will not reach the playoffs... there is one vital question... can we reach the playoffs next year? Lets see...
cavs hawks bulls wizzards and raptors are better teams than us
indiana will have george next year
bucks will have parker next year
miami will have bosh next year
are we sure that we will be better than the hornetts or the pistons?
if we do not manage to get love, monroe, buttler or leonard expect more changes...
why pay sully and zeller When you can get 3 or 4 for picks for them? Will we be much worse if we sign koufos and resign bass?
is turner a starting sf?
Can you win a championship with 2 undersized guards like bradley and thomas?
I think we overachieved because of stevens and because many opponents had major injuries
ainge knows he has to find the one guy to build around... celtics always found them through draft...

The answer to this is simple, we're going to be making playoff pushes for a long time and making them.  Think what's a more attractive offer any of those places or coming to Boston, and having a young team to build with.  The Raptors won't nearly be as good next year.  The Cavs are probably going to lose key pieces because of FA's and don't think Love goes back.  Personally I don't see the Buck being a huge contender even though they're good now.  Yes the Heat will have Bosh, but a huge ageing roster, Wade will never be the same and Dragic is probably going to LA. The Bulls you never know who's going to be there since Butler will be leaving Gasol having a career year is going downhill because of age, Noah I believe will be leaving cause he'll want a title and won't get it without a Rose that can stay on the court.  Wizards could stay good because of Wall, Beal and Gortat but they'll lose players to because of the market unless they get Durant.  Pacers could be contenders for a year or two but will get old fast because key players are on the down end of career.  We're a lot better of an overall team then either the Piston and the Hornets can't even play one of there stars. 

Of course you pay Sully if he comes at right price he's a top PF when on the court and he knows how to rebound which our team is bad at without him.  Zeller isn't going to get you a 1st I believe and is worth keeping cause of his age.  Bass is a great resign if comes cheap enough cause of having a Vet.  Plus Smart is going to be our starting point guard and Bradley at the SG with Thomas being our 6th man to keep scoring up.

[konkmv]

I am saying that we could be better next year...but i do not think it will be enough to reach playoffs

[ThePoeticWolf]

I am saying that we could be better next year...but i do not think it will be enough to reach playoffs

If we get better, the rest of the east is going to keep getting worst, doesn't that mean we'd make the playoff, since we're one game out now.

[Ilikesports17]

I have a feeling that ainge will push the destructon button once again this summer

I think we see "blowing it up" differently. For me it means, throwing our best guys on the market and moving them for future draft picks. KG, Pierce trade = blowing it up. For you I think it means whenever you change directions as a team and fundamentally change the core of the team.

Your definition may be better, and I may be wrong in this but lets say they move AB for Jazz pick and Sully + Jazz pick for Kings #6 pick. IDK if I agree with the move but I dont call it blowing it up. You from what I can tell, do.

ah, semantics

I think we overachieved because of stevens and because many opponents had major injuries

Here is where we really disagree. Brad has had to deal with all sorts of change throughout the year. First we had the Rondo trade and then the Green trade, than we had the Sully injury and the Thomas trade along with the Prince trade and the Thomas injury. Dont forget to factor in the Brendan Wright cameo and a sprinkling of KO and Smart injuries, along with a brief injury to AB.

Also since the largest of those changes (Green/Rondo trade) I think we have been above .500. This coupled with nearly our entire team improving due to age/ consistency with  Brad means we could well be a .500+ team without any major additions, and we have max cap space so thats not that likely.

[More Banners]

We're playing impending free agents quite a bit. Doubtful we resign veteran role player Bass, Swedish Fish, or (though it break my heart) Chowder.

If we get better without a major FA move, it will be our young guys gaining consistency and efficiency.

Smart, Sully, Olynyk, Turner, and Bradley...not taking us to the playoffs next season.

[Hemingway]

the sky falls every time we lose a game

[tazzmaniac]

If we trade bradley sully and turner and do not resign players like bass jj datome..isn't it a tear down?

To tear down something you have to have built up something first.  We're a sub 500 team that might possibly back into the playoffs in a very weak East.  We have a bunch of mediocre talent.  Ainge will continue to make smaller moves, like the Thomas trade, that he feels improve the team's assets while looking for the opportunity to make a big acquisition.  Anyone on the team is tradable for the right price.  Trading players for a good return and letting players leave rather than overpaying them is just being a good GM.   

[GratefulCs]

the sky falls every time we lose a game

TP



So true

[Celtics4ever]

I think Ainge views these guys and the picks as chips, whether we win or lose.   Some might stay and some may not.