Yup, I also think it makes lots of sense.
I'm not so sure.
If you're trading for Thomas you are trading to get into the playoffs and trying to win a playoff series.
If you're doing that you want to keep your most playoff hardened players that can contribute on both ends of the floor.
Trading Bass, to me makes little sense since Olynyk is a horrid defender and has no playoff experience. If you're trading for Thomas to win now, about the last person you want to give up for him is Bass since he is so valuable to a team playing playoff basketball.
To me I think you have to try to get Thomas by giving up a pick or so and probably Prince. He is more expendable to a team that trades for Thomas that is looking to make the playoffs, IMHO.
Ehm, sure, but here it all depends on what Phoenix wants in return.
Moreover, it is very hard to put it down in numbers (apart from our W/L record since his arrival) but it looks like Prince has worked a certain magic on this team.
If Prince isn't what Phoenix wants then do a three way and find a team that has something Phoenix wants using Prince's salary. For what Prince brings to the team, Wallace can do some of if not most. He is very expendable to a team that is trying to win now.
To me if you are trading for Thomas then Bass is a must keep for that playoff run. Otherwise, don't make the trade and let things fall where they may.
wow, you really like Bass...
Personally, I do value his input the last month, but I would trade him + a first rounder for Isaiah Thomas in a split second.
Also, consider IT has a great four year contract (which is actually going DOWN every year lol):
Isaiah Thomas $7,238,606 $6,912,869 $6,587,131 $6,261,394 http://hoopshype.com/salaries/phoenix.htm#sthash.ifSeycUA.dpuf
But by adding Thomas while compromising Bass, who might be this years best defender in the frontcourt, is just taking a step forward while taking a step back.
My decision has nothing to do with whether I like Bass or not its just that why are we going to give up an expiring contract and a pick to try to get better in the back court so we can win this year to make the playoffs just to get significantly worse in the frontcourt.
You're stealing from Peter to pay Paul and all you are doing is adding a back up PG who will give you less cap flexibility that Danny has try so hard to achieve this season.
I say pick a course. Go for a better pick or go for the playoffs but don't make moves that don't move the needle in any direction for the team as a whole. If you're going for it make the trade for Thomas and go for it by keeping players that will best help you win this year. If the course is to go for picks, start having Bass and Thornton sit, enjoy the flexibility their expiring contracts provide and lose games.
You have good points, and largely I agree we do give something away by surrendering Bass.
I think O'Connor has several reasons he likes the trade so much (and tbh O'Connor is the guy whose opinion I trust the most among our bloggers):
i/(I simply quote O'Connor)
'The Celtics have had success scoring out of the pick-and-roll when passing to the screener (they rank 12th, according to Synergy), but they have been dismal when the ball handler retains possession, with only 0.69 points per possession scored, per Synergy. And they turn the ball over at an alarming rate, which could be even more concerning in a slower-paced playoff series.
Thomas would solve Boston's pick-and-roll scoring issues, as he has been one of the league's best guards the past two seasons in the NBA.'
It makes sense if you think that our main ball handlers are ET and Smart.
ii/Zeller, Sully and Olynyk will be enough of a frontline to make up a fight in the playoffs. A bit of wishful thinking is involved here but, on the good side, Cavs apart, most East Conference teams do not have great frontlines (Washington will be a problem for sure with Nene, Gortat and Humphries... but hopefully not a disaster).
Having said this, you are right to point out that O'Connor does not give sufficient explanation/thought to alternatives to trading Bass (Prince as you suggest). I had a look in the comments, no one had raised the question, so I did lol
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