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Re: Please share your at the break grades and thoughts on the C's roster.
« Reply #15 on: February 13, 2015, 06:08:55 PM »

Offline Quetzalcoatl

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i'm giving the team as a whole a D. we have a chance at the playoffs but not because it's on the shoulders of Sully, Smart & Kelly. it's because guys like Prince, Bass and Turner are logging big mins. or playing in crunch time.


We have a shot at the playoffs because a .423 winning percentage could get you the 7 seed this year.  As it is, we're still two spots out of the 8 seed with our sub .400 record

Re: Please share your at the break grades and thoughts on the C's roster.
« Reply #16 on: February 13, 2015, 06:52:06 PM »

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Pho,

How is the criticism on Sullinger's weight uninformed?

Maybe uninformed isn't precisely the right word.

My feeling on it is that Sullinger's weight is no surprise.  He is exactly who we were told he was coming out of college.  I think if you're informed about the kinds of players in the league and you've watched the game for some time, you can identify different body types fairly well and have an understanding of what kinds of physical developments you can reasonably expect from a player.

When I see people saying that he's exactly like Zach Randolph, for instance, and that he needs to model his game accordingly, I think that shows that somebody is uninformed.  They are both 6'9'' 260, but there's a lot more to a person's body type than their BMI.

Sullinger can improve his body, but I think for the most part he is what he is, and that's OK.  He's not Sean May or Eddy Curry.  I'm not worried about him eating his way out of the league.  In fact, his size is a major part of how he can be so productive despite having below average height and athleticism. 

He's never going to be Paul Millsap or David West, either.  But that's OK, too, just as long as he can continue developing his jumpshot.  He needs to be able to act as a credible outside threat in order to stay relevant in this league.
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« Reply #17 on: February 14, 2015, 12:29:50 AM »

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Pho,

How is the criticism on Sullinger's weight uninformed?

Maybe uninformed isn't precisely the right word.

My feeling on it is that Sullinger's weight is no surprise.  He is exactly who we were told he was coming out of college.  I think if you're informed about the kinds of players in the league and you've watched the game for some time, you can identify different body types fairly well and have an understanding of what kinds of physical developments you can reasonably expect from a player.

When I see people saying that he's exactly like Zach Randolph, for instance, and that he needs to model his game accordingly, I think that shows that somebody is uninformed.  They are both 6'9'' 260, but there's a lot more to a person's body type than their BMI.

Sullinger can improve his body, but I think for the most part he is what he is, and that's OK.  He's not Sean May or Eddy Curry.  I'm not worried about him eating his way out of the league.  In fact, his size is a major part of how he can be so productive despite having below average height and athleticism. 

He's never going to be Paul Millsap or David West, either.  But that's OK, too, just as long as he can continue developing his jumpshot.  He needs to be able to act as a credible outside threat in order to stay relevant in this league.


260? He wishes.
280-290 is more like it.

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« Reply #18 on: February 14, 2015, 12:52:35 AM »

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Pho,

How is the criticism on Sullinger's weight uninformed?

Maybe uninformed isn't precisely the right word.

My feeling on it is that Sullinger's weight is no surprise.  He is exactly who we were told he was coming out of college.  I think if you're informed about the kinds of players in the league and you've watched the game for some time, you can identify different body types fairly well and have an understanding of what kinds of physical developments you can reasonably expect from a player.

When I see people saying that he's exactly like Zach Randolph, for instance, and that he needs to model his game accordingly, I think that shows that somebody is uninformed.  They are both 6'9'' 260, but there's a lot more to a person's body type than their BMI.

Sullinger can improve his body, but I think for the most part he is what he is, and that's OK.  He's not Sean May or Eddy Curry.  I'm not worried about him eating his way out of the league.  In fact, his size is a major part of how he can be so productive despite having below average height and athleticism. 

He's never going to be Paul Millsap or David West, either.  But that's OK, too, just as long as he can continue developing his jumpshot.  He needs to be able to act as a credible outside threat in order to stay relevant in this league.

IOW he has a big butt that allows him to get tremendous positioning in the paint

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« Reply #19 on: February 14, 2015, 09:18:14 AM »

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Pho,

How is the criticism on Sullinger's weight uninformed?

Maybe uninformed isn't precisely the right word.

My feeling on it is that Sullinger's weight is no surprise.  He is exactly who we were told he was coming out of college.  I think if you're informed about the kinds of players in the league and you've watched the game for some time, you can identify different body types fairly well and have an understanding of what kinds of physical developments you can reasonably expect from a player.

When I see people saying that he's exactly like Zach Randolph, for instance, and that he needs to model his game accordingly, I think that shows that somebody is uninformed.  They are both 6'9'' 260, but there's a lot more to a person's body type than their BMI.

Sullinger can improve his body, but I think for the most part he is what he is, and that's OK.  He's not Sean May or Eddy Curry.  I'm not worried about him eating his way out of the league.  In fact, his size is a major part of how he can be so productive despite having below average height and athleticism. 

He's never going to be Paul Millsap or David West, either.  But that's OK, too, just as long as he can continue developing his jumpshot.  He needs to be able to act as a credible outside threat in order to stay relevant in this league.
I agree to an extent. It's unreasonable to expect Sullinger to slim down and look like Kevin Love. He's a wider body. But I do think he could transform himself, which most guys do when they get to the NBA, to be more similar to David West. He could never be as athletic as West was in his prime, but the added muscle and loss of weight would make him quicker.

I also agree with you that Sullinger, as an undersized power forward, will need to increase his efficiency with his outside game. And adding some quickness by getting in better condition would help.

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« Reply #20 on: February 14, 2015, 10:17:37 AM »

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For all the flak that CBS takes, he has this team playing hard and beyond their talent levels. I give him a B+ or an A-.