I hope Danny didn't wait to long???

[DesertDweller]

As much as I believed Jeff Green should have been let go, I also believe Danny should have given him some time,  with some proven people, so we were sure he wasn't the one fit we needed.  we just can't keep dumping people unless we know who fits with who.

we have now ruined any chance we had with green.  we will never be able to see if green was the one when matched with so and so!!!  stop getting rid of people and bring some heavyweights in here!!!

[GreenWarrior]

Green's been in the league for what? 8 yr's? I think everybody has waited long enough on him.

if we need a jeff green somewhere down the road, I don't think it will be too hard to find.

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The Evan Turner signing this past offseason shows how easy it can be to find someone to fill an athletic wing role.

Yeah, that was a heck of a signing, but still... 

[hwangjini_1]

As much as I believed Jeff Green should have been let go, I also believe Danny should have given him some time,  with some proven people, so we were sure he wasn't the one fit we needed.  we just can't keep dumping people unless we know who fits with who.

we have now ruined any chance we had with green.  we will never be able to see if green was the one when matched with so and so!!!  stop getting rid of people and bring some heavyweights in here!!!

just curious, but over green's career on both OKC and the celtics, how many players has he played with? here the list includes pierce, rondo, KG, allen, perk, davis, sully, olly, bradley, and a host of others. in OKC he played with durant, westbrook, collison, ibaka, and lots of others.

the take on green has always been that he is not consistently assertive and his role is 3rd scorer for a good team. that has been his tag for years. in 6 of his 7 seasons, he scored between 12.8 to 17.5 points, with 4 of those seasons scoring between 15.1 and 17.5 points a game.

rebounds? a career average of 5.1/game and only ONCE having more than 6/game in a season.

if nothing else, green screams consistency. what we have seen in his career is indeed who he is as a player. OKC and celtics and different teammates dont seem to matter much at all. he produces pretty much the same regardless of who is on the court with him.

p.s. in memphis in two games he is averaging 15.5 points and 4 rebounds. 

[saltlover]

It's just really too bad Jeff had that heart trouble.  I would have loved to see Green play on that 2011-2012 lockout-shortened season.  Healthy Rondo at he top of his game, Pierce and KG not looking old (Ray was by then).  He could have actually fit into the role he was brought to Boston for.  But by the time he was ready to play, Rondo was hurt, Ray was gone, and KG and Paul needed more help than he could give.  I'm not sure Green would have made all the difference, but it was a close series vs. Miami.  Danny also probably doesn't come close to trading Ray, which maybe would have meant he didn't feel alienated enough to leave in free agency.  It's a lot of what if.  Everyone likes to say around here what if Perk weren't traded, but to me the big one is Green with a healthy heart.

[manl_lui]

Green's been in the league for what? 8 yr's? I think everybody has waited long enough on him.

if we need a jeff green somewhere down the road, I don't think it will be too hard to find.

^ this, as much as I love watching Green and root for him despite his inconsistency. It is clear, Green is 28 (someone correct me if I am wrong). and at best is a 3rd or 4th option on a good team. He can never carry the load of being the #1 guy. By the time we do surround him with stars and reliable scorers (from draft or FA/trade), he will be how old? I think being athletic can only help you for so long

[hwangjini_1]

It's just really too bad Jeff had that heart trouble.  I would have loved to see Green play on that 2011-2012 lockout-shortened season.  Healthy Rondo at he top of his game, Pierce and KG not looking old (Ray was by then).  He could have actually fit into the role he was brought to Boston for.  But by the time he was ready to play, Rondo was hurt, Ray was gone, and KG and Paul needed more help than he could give.  I'm not sure Green would have made all the difference, but it was a close series vs. Miami.  Danny also probably doesn't come close to trading Ray, which maybe would have meant he didn't feel alienated enough to leave in free agency.  It's a lot of what if.  Everyone likes to say around here what if Perk weren't traded, but to me the big one is Green with a healthy heart.

interesting points. yet, something to mull over would be not just stats (as i did), but green's willingness to lead a team, something players such as pierce, KG, rondo, durant, et al can do and have done.

whether a "second fiddle talent" or the best player on a team, green does not lead and make his teammates significantly better. he is a quintessential complimentary player. he fits with almost any team and produces in the same way for the team. he is good to have, but not a crucial piece.

such a player does have value, no doubt whatsoever. but the additional point i make here, not one that contradictions your premise, is that even with a healthy physical heart, green's  "i can't really carry a team heart" wouldn't have changed. at least i don't see any indication from the past that indicates he would have had such a change of heart.

but, this is all speculation and guesswork and a way to have fun. you may be correct after all, we will probably never know.

[saltlover]

It's just really too bad Jeff had that heart trouble.  I would have loved to see Green play on that 2011-2012 lockout-shortened season.  Healthy Rondo at he top of his game, Pierce and KG not looking old (Ray was by then).  He could have actually fit into the role he was brought to Boston for.  But by the time he was ready to play, Rondo was hurt, Ray was gone, and KG and Paul needed more help than he could give.  I'm not sure Green would have made all the difference, but it was a close series vs. Miami.  Danny also probably doesn't come close to trading Ray, which maybe would have meant he didn't feel alienated enough to leave in free agency.  It's a lot of what if.  Everyone likes to say around here what if Perk weren't traded, but to me the big one is Green with a healthy heart.

interesting points. yet, something to mull over would be not just stats (as i did), but green's willingness to lead a team, something players such as pierce, KG, rondo, durant, et al can do and have done.

whether a "second fiddle talent" or the best player on a team, green does not lead and make his teammates significantly better. he is a quintessential complimentary player. he fits with almost any team and produces in the same way for the team. he is good to have, but not a crucial piece.

such a player does have value, no doubt whatsoever. but the additional point i make here, not one that contradictions your premise, is that even with a healthy physical heart, green's  "i can't really carry a team heart" wouldn't have changed. at least i don't see any indication from the past that indicates he would have had such a change of heart.

but, this is all speculation and guesswork and a way to have fun. you may be correct after all, we will probably never know.

I agree with you, in that I don't think Green is a lead-his-team type.  And on that 2011-2012 team, he wouldn't have been.  More like 5th fiddle, and I think he could have given the team what it was lacking.  But that was a snake-bitten team in many ways (Wilcox's heart, Bradley's shoulders, etc), so who knows.  But that team went to game 7 in the conference finals, and blew leads down the stretch in both games 6 and 7... A little more youth and energy might have pushed them over the top.

[vjcsmoke]

Jeff Green was never a franchise piece.  He's a complimentary player who is at his best when he can be the 2nd-4th fiddle on the team.  We got what we could.  I think we gave him more than enough chances to prove himself (3.5 seasons) and he could not be a team leader or 'the guy' even after guys like Pierce left, even during extended periods when Rondo was out with injury. 

Just give it up, Jeff Green will never be more than what he has shown us. A good scorer who is a complementary piece but who can't take over a game or lacks the mentality to do so.

[hwangjini_1]

It's just really too bad Jeff had that heart trouble.  I would have loved to see Green play on that 2011-2012 lockout-shortened season.  Healthy Rondo at he top of his game, Pierce and KG not looking old (Ray was by then).  He could have actually fit into the role he was brought to Boston for.  But by the time he was ready to play, Rondo was hurt, Ray was gone, and KG and Paul needed more help than he could give.  I'm not sure Green would have made all the difference, but it was a close series vs. Miami.  Danny also probably doesn't come close to trading Ray, which maybe would have meant he didn't feel alienated enough to leave in free agency.  It's a lot of what if.  Everyone likes to say around here what if Perk weren't traded, but to me the big one is Green with a healthy heart.

interesting points. yet, something to mull over would be not just stats (as i did), but green's willingness to lead a team, something players such as pierce, KG, rondo, durant, et al can do and have done.

whether a "second fiddle talent" or the best player on a team, green does not lead and make his teammates significantly better. he is a quintessential complimentary player. he fits with almost any team and produces in the same way for the team. he is good to have, but not a crucial piece.

such a player does have value, no doubt whatsoever. but the additional point i make here, not one that contradictions your premise, is that even with a healthy physical heart, green's  "i can't really carry a team heart" wouldn't have changed. at least i don't see any indication from the past that indicates he would have had such a change of heart.

but, this is all speculation and guesswork and a way to have fun. you may be correct after all, we will probably never know.

I agree with you, in that I don't think Green is a lead-his-team type.  And on that 2011-2012 team, he wouldn't have been.  More like 5th fiddle, and I think he could have given the team what it was lacking.  But that was a snake-bitten team in many ways (Wilcox's heart, Bradley's shoulders, etc), so who knows.  But that team went to game 7 in the conference finals, and blew leads down the stretch in both games 6 and 7... A little more youth and energy might have pushed them over the top.

i see your point. thanks. yes, i agree totally. in the proper circumstances, players such as green can "have their day" and tip carefully balanced scales. good call and a tp for it.