What to do wth Sully ?

[rondohondo]

He has been playing better the last few games, but it's almost about time to decide whether or not he is part of the future core . We have him under contract until the end of next season (2.2 mil next season ) . Sully then have a qualifying offer option in 2016 that the C's can match .

My questions are

1) How much is Sully worth as a free agent ?

 I would have to guess 8-10 mil

Does Danny want to sign a player who is overweight and undersized to this kind of contract for 3-4 years ? We know he had the back issues, which seem to be fine now , but I don't know if he will ever get into top condition .

2) How much better can Sully get ?

I see him at pretty close to his ceiling right now . He is a poor man's Zach Randolph to me , or an out of shape David West . He definitely brings skills to the table , but I see him as more of a 3rd big on a contender in his next contract .

3) Should we try to package Sully with Green or Bass ?

I know Detroit is playing better , but maybe we can get them to take a Sully/ Green for Monroe package . Sully is locked up next year and they would have his Bird rights . Maybe we have to add the clips pick too ?

I just don't see Sully being here long term . We should move him now with Green IMO and try to get a solid young player(Monroe , Henson) or draft pick back  .

[slamtheking]

Sully is a trade asset just like every other player on the roster.  I could see him as a solid starting PF if he had some other solid starters out there with him but we don't have that luxury right now.  I'm in no rush to trade him since I see anyone not on a rookie contract as an asset I would prefer to unload first.

that proposed deal for Monroe is horrid.  Green AND Sully AND a 1st?  For a player that can just leave at the end of the year and we have no Bird rights to make a better offer than anyone else?  yuck.  add in that Monroe is not the defensive presense we need in the paint and that's just grossly overpaying.

[LatterDayCelticsfan]

Maybe the Sully & Green for Monroe would work, if the latter had a proper contract with the Pistons. As it is we should keep feeding Sulky beefy looks in the low post, spicy dishes on the 3pt line, and hope he continues to sweeten his trade value.

[SHAQATTACK]

Nothing wrong with Jared

Replace the poor coaching staff.

[PAOBoston]

Nothing wrong with Jared

Replace the poor coaching staff.

There is zero chance the C's replace Stevens. ZERO. They gave him a longterm deal for a reason. He's here to stay.

As for Sully, he's wildly overrated by C's fans. He's not a bad player but I don't think he's a legitimate starter on any contending team. He seems like a good bench piece. He can rebound and stretch the floor with a the three. His lack of height, athleticism, and poor defense can be masked versus other second units. He also doesn't have as high of a ceiling as Olynyk imo so if it comes to make a decision between one of the two,  I'm personally choosing Olynyk. Sullinger is nice but I think he'll be part of a deal at some point.

[Celtics4ever]

Nothing wrong with Jared

Replace the poor coaching staff.

They have wonderful eye glasses these days, perhaps you should try some.

1)  He is unconditioned, out of shape and lazy
2)  He is a horrible defender
3)  He is undersized and ofted blocked.
4)  His shot is unreliable at best.
5)   Unathletic - can't jump, can't run takes plays off all of the time
6)   Limited Upside - already plays like a veteran

I think he has outstanding hands and is a good rebounder due to being able to eat up space.

He is a liability on D, even Tommy said last night that they were all good defender except for Sully at the end of the game.   For Tommy to say anything negative about a Celtic is telling.   He identified three players and lauded the D last game two said Bradley, Smart and Crowder were awesome on D and Sully was out there.  He has done this the last two games.

The guy is a little taller version of Popeye Jones with better hands and a better shot but same body type without the motor.   I think back and recall and the comparisons to Kevin Love and other power forwards and laugh sometimes.   He is a lot like Kevin Love, in that he can put up numbers on a bad team and lose and he doesn't play D like Love.

He 'd be ok coming off the bench but if we are trying to get back to contention, he is not a guy anyone with sense would build around.   He plays best when he plays low and look at how many FTAs he had last night I bet he thinks he was back at OSU.     Sully may continue to improve his shooting which he has done so, but his ceiling is so finite and he still get swatted a lot and take threes more out of laziness than being open.   I do not see his rebounds going up nor his D until he becomes a professional and gets in better shape even then I think it is small amount he can improve.

I honestly think, Young may be our best young prospect with Smart being intriguing.   I think our young bigs are backups in talent level on a good team.   Young has a ways to go on defense to be NBA ready and the same could be said of Smart on offense.

I hope he is bundled in a trade for something but I doubt Monroe is moved given their recent win streak. 

[kozlodoev]

He is a liability on D, even Tommy said last night that they were all good defender except for Sully at the end of the game.   For Tommy to say anything negative about a Celtic is telling.

On the other hand, Tommy is 5+ years removed from providing any meaningful insight on basketball issues, so I wouldn't read too much in it.

Also, he says negative stuff about the Celtics all the time.

[Kuberski33]

Sully's a poor man's Al Jefferson without the work ethic.  He's also the best big we've got on the present roster.

[fantankerous]

Nothing wrong with Jared

Replace the poor coaching staff.

There is zero chance the C's replace Stevens. ZERO. They gave him a longterm deal for a reason. He's here to stay.

As for Sully, he's wildly overrated by C's fans. He's not a bad player but I don't think he's a legitimate starter on any contending team. He seems like a good bench piece. He can rebound and stretch the floor with a the three. His lack of height, athleticism, and poor defense can be masked versus other second units. He also doesn't have as high of a ceiling as Olynyk imo so if it comes to make a decision between one of the two,  I'm personally choosing Olynyk. Sullinger is nice but I think he'll be part of a deal at some point.

Hopefully DA and ownership can admit they made s mistake and eat his contract.  BS is to the celtics what josh smith was to the Pistons.  Addition by subtraction.

[PAOBoston]

Nothing wrong with Jared

Replace the poor coaching staff.

There is zero chance the C's replace Stevens. ZERO. They gave him a longterm deal for a reason. He's here to stay.

As for Sully, he's wildly overrated by C's fans. He's not a bad player but I don't think he's a legitimate starter on any contending team. He seems like a good bench piece. He can rebound and stretch the floor with a the three. His lack of height, athleticism, and poor defense can be masked versus other second units. He also doesn't have as high of a ceiling as Olynyk imo so if it comes to make a decision between one of the two,  I'm personally choosing Olynyk. Sullinger is nice but I think he'll be part of a deal at some point.

Hopefully DA and ownership can admit they made s mistake and eat his contract.  BS is to the celtics what josh smith was to the Pistons.  Addition by subtraction.

That is a ludicrous statement to make. We are almost 1.5 seasons into a rebuild. Stevens was dealt a bad hand with a bad, unbalanced roster. I think it's a little too soon to even consider the thought of cutting ties with him. I can understand why people are frustrated with the team performance but I think everyone needs to see the big picture. I believe the rotations and minutes will sort themselves out after the trade deadline.

[SHAQATTACK]

Well....

We start by finding a.

New Coach and new Staff .

[littleteapot]

Wow huge overreaction to want to trade him or release him (you know he's making 3 mil a year right???)

I would offer him 8 mil a year when he hits RFA and probably match teams up a little more if other teams go after him. I think anyone who's trying to look at this objectively would have to admit that he's a very good but very flawed player. Bigs who can rebound, really set screens, shoot 3's, pass and post up don't grow on trees.

[Rondo9]

Wow huge overreaction to want to trade him or release him (you know he's making 3 mil a year right???)

I would offer him 8 mil a year when he hits RFA and probably match teams up a little more if other teams go after him. I think anyone who's trying to look at this objectively would have to admit that he's a very good but very flawed player. Bigs who can rebound, really set screens, shoot 3's, pass and post up don't grow on trees.

I know some people are going Rick Pitino around here lately. The fact they grabbed  someone like Jared Sullinger late in the draft is a stroke of luck.