Rondo is a poor mans Dennis Rodman

[BballTim]

Let's get some facts straight.

- Rodman barely ever shot and most of his shots were put backs on offensive rebounds. Rondo shoots 10 times a game on a team with three Hall of Famers who he sets up to shoot 15 times a game. He doesn't bare ever shoot.

- Rodman was a basket case and was getting thrown out of games and T'ed up constantly. His attitude and persona was a detriment to his team. Rondo is a warrior who's stubborn attitude and desire to win is an asset to his team. Trying to compare Rondo's attitude to Rodman's is like trying to compare a gourmet dinner to beef jerky. Rondo does not have an attitude problem.

- Rodman was a God awful offensive player other than offensive rebounding. Rondo runs the offense, one of the most efficient offenses in the league, and is one of the best finishers around the basket in the league and there might not be a better open court, fast break PG in the league. He is not awful offensively he just isn't the best outside shooter.

- Rodman worked hard at getting his name in the paper and being a distraction to his team. He was a great pure rebounder, defender and athletic freak who worked at keeping in shape. He NEVER worked on his game. Rondo has worked on his game spending one season restructuring his shot with Mark Price and is said to constantly be on a court in the off season working on his game.


The misrepresentations of Rondo is this thread are shocking given what he has done for this team in the short time he has been here.

Let me ask you something, if Rondo was a PF, would he ever be a part of the offense other then put backs or fast breaks?

If hippos could fly would they fly faster than an eagle?

Who knows because hippos don't fly, so this isn't really the best way to retort what are clearly points you don't want to discuss because you misrepresented the facts in your original comparison of the players.

Rondo does not barely shoot. He shoots nearly double the amount of times that Rodman did for his career(nearly 5 shots more per game) while shooting only 4-5 times less per game than one of his Hall of Fame team mates.

Rondo has a great attitude and is not a bad attitude, problem child like Rodman was.

Rondo is a fantastic offensive player who's flaw is he isn't a great outside shooter. Rodman had zero offensive game and didn't even try on that end of the court.

Rondo is constantly working on his game. He spent an entire summer working on his shooting form with Mark Price.

How about discussing these misrepresentations before starting a what if the impossible were possible game?

  I duuno though, Nick. A 6'10 Rondo that could dunk the ball every time he got to the rim? Think a quicker, better passing, better ball-handling, better rebounding LeBron with a worse jump shot.

[nickagneta]

Let's get some facts straight.

- Rodman barely ever shot and most of his shots were put backs on offensive rebounds. Rondo shoots 10 times a game on a team with three Hall of Famers who he sets up to shoot 15 times a game. He doesn't bare ever shoot.

- Rodman was a basket case and was getting thrown out of games and T'ed up constantly. His attitude and persona was a detriment to his team. Rondo is a warrior who's stubborn attitude and desire to win is an asset to his team. Trying to compare Rondo's attitude to Rodman's is like trying to compare a gourmet dinner to beef jerky. Rondo does not have an attitude problem.

- Rodman was a God awful offensive player other than offensive rebounding. Rondo runs the offense, one of the most efficient offenses in the league, and is one of the best finishers around the basket in the league and there might not be a better open court, fast break PG in the league. He is not awful offensively he just isn't the best outside shooter.

- Rodman worked hard at getting his name in the paper and being a distraction to his team. He was a great pure rebounder, defender and athletic freak who worked at keeping in shape. He NEVER worked on his game. Rondo has worked on his game spending one season restructuring his shot with Mark Price and is said to constantly be on a court in the off season working on his game.


The misrepresentations of Rondo is this thread are shocking given what he has done for this team in the short time he has been here.

Let me ask you something, if Rondo was a PF, would he ever be a part of the offense other then put backs or fast breaks?

If hippos could fly would they fly faster than an eagle?

Who knows because hippos don't fly, so this isn't really the best way to retort what are clearly points you don't want to discuss because you misrepresented the facts in your original comparison of the players.

Rondo does not barely shoot. He shoots nearly double the amount of times that Rodman did for his career(nearly 5 shots more per game) while shooting only 4-5 times less per game than one of his Hall of Fame team mates.

Rondo has a great attitude and is not a bad attitude, problem child like Rodman was.

Rondo is a fantastic offensive player who's flaw is he isn't a great outside shooter. Rodman had zero offensive game and didn't even try on that end of the court.

Rondo is constantly working on his game. He spent an entire summer working on his shooting form with Mark Price.

How about discussing these misrepresentations before starting a what if the impossible were possible game?

  I duuno though, Nick. A 6'10 Rondo that could dunk the ball every time he got to the rim? Think a quicker, better passing, better ball-handling, better rebounding LeBron with a worse jump shot.

LOL.

[KGDunks]

Rondo can still score though.

[pokeKingCurtis]

Let's get some facts straight.

- Rodman barely ever shot and most of his shots were put backs on offensive rebounds. Rondo shoots 10 times a game on a team with three Hall of Famers who he sets up to shoot 15 times a game. He doesn't bare ever shoot.

- Rodman was a basket case and was getting thrown out of games and T'ed up constantly. His attitude and persona was a detriment to his team. Rondo is a warrior who's stubborn attitude and desire to win is an asset to his team. Trying to compare Rondo's attitude to Rodman's is like trying to compare a gourmet dinner to beef jerky. Rondo does not have an attitude problem.

- Rodman was a God awful offensive player other than offensive rebounding. Rondo runs the offense, one of the most efficient offenses in the league, and is one of the best finishers around the basket in the league and there might not be a better open court, fast break PG in the league. He is not awful offensively he just isn't the best outside shooter.

- Rodman worked hard at getting his name in the paper and being a distraction to his team. He was a great pure rebounder, defender and athletic freak who worked at keeping in shape. He NEVER worked on his game. Rondo has worked on his game spending one season restructuring his shot with Mark Price and is said to constantly be on a court in the off season working on his game.


The misrepresentations of Rondo is this thread are shocking given what he has done for this team in the short time he has been here.

I feel this thread is worth a bump.

Interesting.

[TheFlex]

Awkward comparison. Lots of point-stretching in there to make it work. I don't see it and I'm not the biggest Rondo fan around either.

[Roy H.]

Rondo isn't nearly as dominant at defense as Rodman was, and he's not as good passing as Rodman was rebounding.  Rodman has peers who can average as many assists as he does; Rodman was peerless.

The one comparison I see is that people accused Rodman of passing up offense for rebounding positioning, much in the same way that people accuse Rondo of passing up points for assists.  However, I think that was overstated with both players, and I don't think it's a good basis for comparison.

(Also, I don't think Rondo is "awful" offensively.  Inconsistent is more like it.)

Ha.  I hadn't realized this was bumped, and I was going to post pretty much my first paragraph verbatim.

Over the last three years, though, my opinion on Rondo's scoring has evolved.  At this point, I'd agree that it's "awful".

[Celtics18]

Rondo isn't nearly as dominant at defense as Rodman was, and he's not as good passing as Rodman was rebounding.  Rodman has peers who can average as many assists as he does; Rodman was peerless.

The one comparison I see is that people accused Rodman of passing up offense for rebounding positioning, much in the same way that people accuse Rondo of passing up points for assists.  However, I think that was overstated with both players, and I don't think it's a good basis for comparison.

(Also, I don't think Rondo is "awful" offensively.  Inconsistent is more like it.)

Ha.  I hadn't realized this was bumped, and I was going to post pretty much my first paragraph verbatim.

Over the last three years, though, my opinion on Rondo's scoring has evolved.  At this point, I'd agree that it's "awful".

I would agree that currently Rondo's scoring is "awful."  I wouldn't agree that this means his offense is "awful."

[Meadowlark_Scal]

I do not agree at all with that. Ronodo is the most pure pg I have seen in a long time. Many here do not understand the pg job. I think you want a westbrook or an allen Iverson. Both are more 2 guards, not pg's. Rondo can take it to the hoop anytime he wants, he has excellent moves, and finishes very well. His shooting is the result of not shooting. All shooters shoot high %, they adjust, then it starts hitting. The problem here is not much contribution from the rest of the team. KO for example showed in the game of overtime vs the wizards what he should be doing all night for the team, going after rebounds hard, and contributing, a lazy waste to just hang out at 3 point land launching lazy threes and not even looking at where the rebound goes. ANYONW whoever shot a ball knows where it is going as soon as it leaves your hands. If you are any kind of player, you would be there to get it, esp if it is your paid job.

[Roy H.]

I do not agree at all with that. Ronodo is the most pure pg I have seen in a long time. Many here do not understand the pg job. I think you want a westbrook or an allen Iverson. Both are more 2 guards, not pg's. Rondo can take it to the hoop anytime he wants, he has excellent moves, and finishes very well. His shooting is the result of not shooting. All shooters shoot high %, they adjust, then it starts hitting. The problem here is not much contribution from the rest of the team. KO for example showed in the game of overtime vs the wizards what he should be doing all night for the team, going after rebounds hard, and contributing, a lazy waste to just hang out at 3 point land launching lazy threes and not even looking at where the rebound goes. ANYONW whoever shot a ball knows where it is going as soon as it leaves your hands. If you are any kind of player, you would be there to get it, esp if it is your paid job.

Question:  do you consider Cousy a "pure" point guard?

Rondo can take it to the hoop anytime he wants, he has excellent moves, and finishes very well.

Compared to his peers, Rondo is actually quite poor at getting to the hoop.

He ranks 64th in the NBA n terms of points scored on drives (2.8 ppg), and he's 51st in his contributions to team scoring on drives (his points, plus points that his teammates score off his penetration).  Overall, the Celtics score 6.0 points per game generating from Rondo drives.  He finishes at a rate of 45.8%, which appears to be fairly average.