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Coach Stevens seems to have everyone buying in
« on: October 29, 2014, 09:47:06 AM »

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Stevens also possesses that vital second step. He has mostly sold his ideas to a group known for its cynicism — modern professional athletes. Well-traveled veterans like Kris Humphries, Jerryd Bayless and Gerald Wallace all bought in last season. Keith Bogans and Courtney Lee didn’t and were gone by February (Bogans physically if not monetarily).

So Stevens also has that third step — clout.

“He told us the first day of practice that we’re going to work efficiently, we’re not going to waste our time,” Turner said. “We’re not going to do things that don’t matter. I’m not going to have you out on the floor for 31?2 hours. That’s his philosophy. He preaches to do what you do, and let’s work together at it. He really believes in building a game plan and seeing it through.”

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Brandon Bass recently said that, perhaps for the first time, a coach has helped him to think differently about the game.

“Absolutely. He gets everybody to think the game differently,” Bass said. “The way he coaches, he puts you in a position to expand your game, to be more skilled, to be more successful.

“He’s very detailed, and those are the things that separate you from the pack. He’s more detailed than other coaches. Stan Van Gundy is another coach who is very detailed, but very different, oh my God.”

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It’s his intensity and the focus he’s bringing to the game,” Wallace said. “It’s the information he’s bringing to the table. In this world, if you want to motivate people and get them to buy into what you’re saying, it’s connected to how much you believe in what you’re saying. Everybody here understands that he’s 100 percent behind his word. Everything he does, he’s into it 100 percent.”

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“It’s easier to coach a guy like Rajon Rondo when you get to know him,” Stevens said. “That takes some time for me, and I’ve learned a lot about myself. I really like to invest in the guys. It’s important. And the more time I can spend with them, the more I can coach them.”

Rondo never is far away. He spent the preseason as a kind of associate coach. He, too, is still gauging his coach.

“He’s more vocal. He knows more about what he wants,” the point guard said. “Last year he was getting a feel for it. Now he’s studied it. He hates to lose. This summer he told me he watched all the games from last year, studied opposing teams, ranked them in all kinds of categories. He had some great stats for us. Now we have all of these analytical guys, and he’s the main one because he’s good with numbers.”

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He told me, ‘The coach you had previously is gone. I’m here now, and I want to challenge you now in this way,’?” Bass said. “That’s how I took it from him. I played on other teams where I was a shooting 4 and I stuck to it. But here, I accepted the challenge he presented to me.

“He absolutely made it acceptable. Just him challenging me, and me being a person who wants to improve, that’s what made him address the situation.”

http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/celtics_nba/boston_celtics/2014/10/brad_stevens_wins_em_over

Re: Coach Stevens seems to have everyone buying in
« Reply #1 on: October 29, 2014, 09:51:43 AM »

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Well that's good.

He shouldn't have to be the only one paying for dinner, all the time.

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« Reply #2 on: October 29, 2014, 09:57:17 AM »

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Rondo at the press conference last month said something along the lines , "i can do whatever i want".

Does that sound like a guy that is buying in to any kind of system?  Im not optimistic rondo is going to do what BS wants to happen out there. We will see

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« Reply #3 on: October 29, 2014, 09:58:58 AM »

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I wonder where they came up with Courtney Lee not buying into the system just because he's gone. He was having a great year, and the only reason he's not around is because of the length of his contract. Nothing more and nothing less. If I'm wrong I'd like to know, but seems a bit far fetched. If anything Stevens did a disservice to Courtney by not playing him more, Lee was awesome last year.

And I don't think Bogans had a problem with the system either, he just got peeved that undeserving players were playing ahead of him. I don't really see a problem with that, other than it was going to be a disruption so better to have him away from the team. For all intents and purposes he was a great teammate until he saw the writing on the wall that all his efforts will go un-rewarded because lesser players were going to get his opportunities.

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« Reply #4 on: October 29, 2014, 10:03:08 AM »

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I wonder where they came up with Courtney Lee not buying into the system just because he's gone. He was having a great year, and the only reason he's not around is because of the length of his contract. Nothing more and nothing less. If I'm wrong I'd like to know, but seems a bit far fetched. If anything Stevens did a disservice to Courtney by not playing him more, Lee was awesome last year.

And I don't think Bogans had a problem with the system either, he just got peeved that undeserving players were playing ahead of him. I don't really see a problem with that, other than it was going to be a disruption so better to have him away from the team. For all intents and purposes he was a great teammate until he saw the writing on the wall that all his efforts will go un-rewarded because lesser players were going to get his opportunities.

He was vocally disgruntle about the coach taking him out of games while he was hot and not doing it to other players. Maybe there was more said behind the scenes.
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    "Are you going to be consistent with what you do? If you're gonna stick to a time subbing pattern that you make before the game and not go off how the game's going? Or are you going to go off of how the game is going? I don't know."

    Lee said he has talked with Stevens about the situation, but didn't sound overly optimistic that things will be resolved to his satisfaction.

    "We talked," Lee acknowledged. "Of course it's always going to be everything said that I want to hear. But I mean, you see that's not the case when I'm out there."

"I give credit to Avery," Lee said. "He had it going. So it made sense to leave him in while he's going. But what I'm saying in the same sense, there were games when I had it going and I came out of the game.

http://network.yardbarker.com/nba/article_external/courtney_lee_angry_at_brad_stevens_over_his_playing_time_vs_wizards/15369142?linksrc=story_article_yb_original_head_15369142

Not long after that he was traded.

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« Reply #5 on: October 29, 2014, 10:03:55 AM »

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Rondo at the press conference last month said something along the lines , "i can do whatever i want".

Does that sound like a guy that is buying in to any kind of system?  Im not optimistic rondo is going to do what BS wants to happen out there. We will see

I'm going to take a shot at the dark and guess that you don't believe in context.

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« Reply #6 on: October 29, 2014, 10:04:50 AM »

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This summer he told me he watched all the games from last year


Breaking: Rondo diagnosed with extreme self-loathing.
At least a goldfish with a Lincoln Log on its back goin' across your floor to your sock drawer has a miraculous connotation to it.

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« Reply #7 on: October 29, 2014, 10:05:03 AM »

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Rondo at the press conference last month said something along the lines , "i can do whatever i want".

Does that sound like a guy that is buying in to any kind of system?  Im not optimistic rondo is going to do what BS wants to happen out there. We will see

Rondo is basically saying what EVERY player has said. Marcus Thorton said the same thing, is he not buying in?

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« Reply #8 on: October 29, 2014, 10:07:28 AM »

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I wonder where they came up with Courtney Lee not buying into the system just because he's gone. He was having a great year, and the only reason he's not around is because of the length of his contract. Nothing more and nothing less. If I'm wrong I'd like to know, but seems a bit far fetched. If anything Stevens did a disservice to Courtney by not playing him more, Lee was awesome last year.

And I don't think Bogans had a problem with the system either, he just got peeved that undeserving players were playing ahead of him. I don't really see a problem with that, other than it was going to be a disruption so better to have him away from the team. For all intents and purposes he was a great teammate until he saw the writing on the wall that all his efforts will go un-rewarded because lesser players were going to get his opportunities.

He was vocally disgruntle about the coach taking him out of games while he was hot and not doing it to other players. Maybe there was more said behind the scenes.
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    "Are you going to be consistent with what you do? If you're gonna stick to a time subbing pattern that you make before the game and not go off how the game's going? Or are you going to go off of how the game is going? I don't know."

    Lee said he has talked with Stevens about the situation, but didn't sound overly optimistic that things will be resolved to his satisfaction.

    "We talked," Lee acknowledged. "Of course it's always going to be everything said that I want to hear. But I mean, you see that's not the case when I'm out there."

"I give credit to Avery," Lee said. "He had it going. So it made sense to leave him in while he's going. But what I'm saying in the same sense, there were games when I had it going and I came out of the game.

http://network.yardbarker.com/nba/article_external/courtney_lee_angry_at_brad_stevens_over_his_playing_time_vs_wizards/15369142?linksrc=story_article_yb_original_head_15369142

Not long after that he was traded.

Ah yes, I recall that now. At the same time, I don't know if that's as much as buying into Stevens' system, as much as Stevens doing a poor job with the sub patterns.

As I said, Courtney Lee was having a spectacular year, and Stevens didn't give him his due playing time which was well deserved.

Funny thing is that the article claims that Wallace bought in, and he was even more vocal throughout the year questioning Stevens' decisions. I guess in the END he kinda did.

But it was obvious from an organizational standpoint and from a coaching standpoint that the youth movement and assets evaluation had begun and screw playing the guys that actually deserved playing.

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« Reply #9 on: October 29, 2014, 10:10:08 AM »

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I wonder where they came up with Courtney Lee not buying into the system just because he's gone. He was having a great year, and the only reason he's not around is because of the length of his contract. Nothing more and nothing less. If I'm wrong I'd like to know, but seems a bit far fetched. If anything Stevens did a disservice to Courtney by not playing him more, Lee was awesome last year.

And I don't think Bogans had a problem with the system either, he just got peeved that undeserving players were playing ahead of him. I don't really see a problem with that, other than it was going to be a disruption so better to have him away from the team. For all intents and purposes he was a great teammate until he saw the writing on the wall that all his efforts will go un-rewarded because lesser players were going to get his opportunities.

He was vocally disgruntle about the coach taking him out of games while he was hot and not doing it to other players. Maybe there was more said behind the scenes.
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    "Are you going to be consistent with what you do? If you're gonna stick to a time subbing pattern that you make before the game and not go off how the game's going? Or are you going to go off of how the game is going? I don't know."

    Lee said he has talked with Stevens about the situation, but didn't sound overly optimistic that things will be resolved to his satisfaction.

    "We talked," Lee acknowledged. "Of course it's always going to be everything said that I want to hear. But I mean, you see that's not the case when I'm out there."

"I give credit to Avery," Lee said. "He had it going. So it made sense to leave him in while he's going. But what I'm saying in the same sense, there were games when I had it going and I came out of the game.

http://network.yardbarker.com/nba/article_external/courtney_lee_angry_at_brad_stevens_over_his_playing_time_vs_wizards/15369142?linksrc=story_article_yb_original_head_15369142

Not long after that he was traded.

Ah yes, I recall that now. At the same time, I don't know if that's as much as buying into Stevens' system, as much as Stevens doing a poor job with the sub patterns.

As I said, Courtney Lee was having a spectacular year, and Stevens didn't give him his due playing time which was well deserved.

Funny thing is that the article claims that Wallace bought in, and he was even more vocal throughout the year questioning Stevens' decisions. I guess in the END he kinda did.

But it was obvious from an organizational standpoint and from a coaching standpoint that the youth movement and assets evaluation had begun and screw playing the guys that actually deserved playing.

I think the C's bought into Wallace, they knew they couldn't unload his contract  ;D or else he'd probably  have had a new home too. I know he was told multiple times last year to calm down on the criticism.

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« Reply #10 on: October 29, 2014, 10:12:52 AM »

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I'm just a big fan of Courtney Lee and I think he got an unfair shake from Celtics fans and from the Celtics organization, mainly the coaches all because he had a very slow start to begin the year when he joined us and for some reason people made it representative of his whole stay with the Celtics when it couldn't have been farther from the actuality of it. He was incredibly efficient.

So it ticks me off when the media talks crap about him, undeserved at many times.

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« Reply #11 on: October 29, 2014, 10:38:17 AM »

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I'm just a big fan of Courtney Lee and I think he got an unfair shake from Celtics fans and from the Celtics organization, mainly the coaches all because he had a very slow start to begin the year when he joined us and for some reason people made it representative of his whole stay with the Celtics when it couldn't have been farther from the actuality of it. He was incredibly efficient.

So it ticks me off when the media talks crap about him, undeserved at many times.

  My impression of Lee is that he's a very good shooter off the dribble and not a great spot up shooter. His first year he was mainly taking spot up shots, his second year he was taking a dribble or two and doing either a pullup shot or a floater. He seems to be much better at that.

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« Reply #12 on: October 29, 2014, 10:41:56 AM »

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I'm just a big fan of Courtney Lee and I think he got an unfair shake from Celtics fans and from the Celtics organization, mainly the coaches all because he had a very slow start to begin the year when he joined us and for some reason people made it representative of his whole stay with the Celtics when it couldn't have been farther from the actuality of it. He was incredibly efficient.

So it ticks me off when the media talks crap about him, undeserved at many times.

  My impression of Lee is that he's a very good shooter off the dribble and not a great spot up shooter. His first year he was mainly taking spot up shots, his second year he was taking a dribble or two and doing either a pullup shot or a floater. He seems to be much better at that.


I think there was more of a problem with his shooting mechanism when he was shooting from 3, he addressed it in the off-season and came HOT.

With all his problems in his first season he still ended up with career high in FG% (at that point, he was even better the following year) and 37% from 3s which isn't bad at all. He just missed quite a few easy open ones.

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« Reply #13 on: October 29, 2014, 10:46:33 AM »

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I'm just a big fan of Courtney Lee and I think he got an unfair shake from Celtics fans and from the Celtics organization, mainly the coaches all because he had a very slow start to begin the year when he joined us and for some reason people made it representative of his whole stay with the Celtics when it couldn't have been farther from the actuality of it. He was incredibly efficient.

So it ticks me off when the media talks crap about him, undeserved at many times.

  My impression of Lee is that he's a very good shooter off the dribble and not a great spot up shooter. His first year he was mainly taking spot up shots, his second year he was taking a dribble or two and doing either a pullup shot or a floater. He seems to be much better at that.


I think there was more of a problem with his shooting mechanism when he was shooting from 3, he addressed it in the off-season and came HOT.

With all his problems in his first season he still ended up with career high in FG% (at that point, he was even better the following year) and 37% from 3s which isn't bad at all. He just missed quite a few easy open ones.

  Maybe. I'm not as big a fan of him as you are, but people were definitely sleeping on how well he was playing for us last year.

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« Reply #14 on: October 29, 2014, 12:41:53 PM »

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Rondo at the press conference last month said something along the lines , "i can do whatever i want".

Does that sound like a guy that is buying in to any kind of system?  Im not optimistic rondo is going to do what BS wants to happen out there. We will see

We must insert Rondo hate into every thread.... ::) ::) ::)