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Bass trade Idea
« on: August 05, 2014, 04:45:55 PM »

Offline Hawkeye199

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trade Idea

Boston gives: bass and clippers pick

Milwaukee gives: Henson

I want to trade for our future rim protector. His name is john henson and he plays for Milwaukee.
when he plays about 20 minutes he avg 11.1ppg 7.1 rpg and 1.7bpg with a PER of 17.97 and he is 23 years old.
he is also very cheap he costs only 2 million for 2 years. the money works out on nba trade machine here: http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=nbj2svo
I say we give them bass and a clippers pick for him. we already want bass gone. were half way there and the bucks are rumored to be wanting to trade him.

I don't understand that if they weren't into larry saunders why did they pay him 11 million for four years. also here are links saying Milwaukee is interested in maybe trading henson.
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/24594706/report-bucks-have-put-ilyasova-henson-knight-on-trade-market
http://fansided.com/2014/06/22/nba-rumors-milwaukee-bucks-may-trade-john-henson/
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/21545485/report-milwaukee-is-looking-to-make-a-trade

Bass is an upgrade over their current starting power forward
bass stats:11.1 ppg 5.7 rpg 0.9bpg and per of 15.01 with a contract of 6.9 million.age 29
Ilyasova ( their starting PF):11.2ppg 6.2rbg 0.1bpg and a per of 13.85 and a contract of 7.9 million.age 27
The articles say they want a mid-or late first round pick for him. So I think Milwaukee might want this deal.

highlight of henson

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjW2lP17tss



Want to see him against the world champion spurs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPsl2Q1rbDE
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Re: Bass trade Idea
« Reply #1 on: August 05, 2014, 06:15:24 PM »

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Bass has an incredible awkwardness to his play that just makes him hard to watch regardless of his stats.

KO and Sully are developing, they need more minutes, thus he needs to go, and this seems like a decent trade.

Perhaps the two Philly second rounders instead of the clippers pick.

Re: Bass trade Idea
« Reply #2 on: August 05, 2014, 06:17:34 PM »

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No chance.

Maybe if we eat that Mayo deal and send them Bogans contract.
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Re: Bass trade Idea
« Reply #3 on: August 06, 2014, 09:53:28 AM »

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No chance.

Maybe if we eat that Mayo deal and send them Bogans contract.

what if we sent them bass clippers pick and philly 2 second rounders
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Re: Bass trade Idea
« Reply #4 on: August 06, 2014, 10:04:23 AM »

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No chance.

Maybe if we eat that Mayo deal and send them Bogans contract.

what if we sent them bass clippers pick and philly 2 second rounders

no way -- overpaying.

Henson has promise but Bass is a proven player.  Henson seems more like a skinny PF to me rather than a legit Center.  wouldn't mind having him instead of Bass but I wouldn't start throwing picks around to get him.

As someone else mentioned, maybe offer to take Mayo off their hands (hand them a WetNap :) ) with Henson for Bass, our 3 non-guaranteed deals and maybe Fav or Anthony.  Maybe Philly 1st (which will end up being 2nds).

Would need to then find a new home for either Mayo or Thornton before the season starts.

Re: Bass trade Idea
« Reply #5 on: August 06, 2014, 11:09:43 AM »

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No chance.

Maybe if we eat that Mayo deal and send them Bogans contract.

what if we sent them bass clippers pick and philly 2 second rounders

Boston seems very unlikely to do that.  Mayo is a worse player on a longer contract and Ainge seems to value clearing cap space next summer.  He probably wouldn't trade Bass for Mayo straight up, let alone toss in some picks.
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Re: Bass trade Idea
« Reply #6 on: August 06, 2014, 11:47:59 AM »

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No chance.

Maybe if we eat that Mayo deal and send them Bogans contract.

what if we sent them bass clippers pick and philly 2 second rounders

no way -- overpaying.

Henson has promise but Bass is a proven player.  Henson seems more like a skinny PF to me rather than a legit Center.  wouldn't mind having him instead of Bass but I wouldn't start throwing picks around to get him.

As someone else mentioned, maybe offer to take Mayo off their hands (hand them a WetNap :) ) with Henson for Bass, our 3 non-guaranteed deals and maybe Fav or Anthony.  Maybe Philly 1st (which will end up being 2nds).

Would need to then find a new home for either Mayo or Thornton before the season starts.

You're kidding right?
You wouldn't dump Bass +Clippers pick+phillies 2nd rounders for John Henson?

Bass is an expiring contract of 7 million. We want to clear that caproom, we also want to add young talent. That Clippers pick is going to be around #22-25 or worse, and those philly picks aren't changing the face of the Celtics. John Henson is WAY better than anyone you could hope to pick at 25 and he fits a specific team need, on a rookie scale contract for 3 more years.

The funny thing is, the Mavs wouldn't even pick up the phone the idea is so bad for them.

For Henson you're looking at AT LEAST Kelly Olynyk, probably Olynyk + the cavs pick.

 People are waiting for the Love deal to go down, and then dominos like Bass and Green may get picked up by other teams in search of expirings +experience/need.(Houston? Portland?)

But Henson will take much more than you're thinking.

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Re: Bass trade Idea
« Reply #7 on: August 06, 2014, 12:10:18 PM »

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The articles say they want a mid-or late first round pick for him. So I think Milwaukee might want this deal.

I mentioned this elsewhere, but I'll say it here, as well.  The article states:

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Both Henson and Knight undoubtedly would bring back at least a mid-first round pick, if the Bucks desired to move them.

If that is true, the Bucks thought that keeping Henson was better than trading him for a mid-first round pick (such as the #17 pick used on James Young), so they should theoretically want more than that in a trade for Henson.
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Re: Bass trade Idea
« Reply #8 on: August 06, 2014, 12:13:50 PM »

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No chance.

Maybe if we eat that Mayo deal and send them Bogans contract.

what if we sent them bass clippers pick and philly 2 second rounders

no way -- overpaying.

Henson has promise but Bass is a proven player.  Henson seems more like a skinny PF to me rather than a legit Center.  wouldn't mind having him instead of Bass but I wouldn't start throwing picks around to get him.

As someone else mentioned, maybe offer to take Mayo off their hands (hand them a WetNap :) ) with Henson for Bass, our 3 non-guaranteed deals and maybe Fav or Anthony.  Maybe Philly 1st (which will end up being 2nds).

Would need to then find a new home for either Mayo or Thornton before the season starts.

You're kidding right?
You wouldn't dump Bass +Clippers pick+phillies 2nd rounders for John Henson?

Bass is an expiring contract of 7 million. We want to clear that caproom, we also want to add young talent. That Clippers pick is going to be around #22-25 or worse, and those philly picks aren't changing the face of the Celtics. John Henson is WAY better than anyone you could hope to pick at 25 and he fits a specific team need, on a rookie scale contract for 3 more years.

The funny thing is, the Mavs wouldn't even pick up the phone the idea is so bad for them.

For Henson you're looking at AT LEAST Kelly Olynyk, probably Olynyk + the cavs pick.

 People are waiting for the Love deal to go down, and then dominos like Bass and Green may get picked up by other teams in search of expirings +experience/need.(Houston? Portland?)

But Henson will take much more than you're thinking.
nope, not kidding.

Bass is an expiring deal.  no 'need' to clear it when he's comes off the books at the end of the year. 

I'm not moving that Clip's pick without protection on it.  would rather move Philly pick if needed.  Until the Sterling mess has resolved, there's no telling what happens to that franchise.

I'm not opposed to Bass for Henson but Bass is a proven solid backup.  Henson is still a work in progress.  yes, he could probably be better than Bass when he's a finished product but he's still developing.  As mentioned, either make it the philly pick with Bass or a couple of seconds (essentially, the Philly pick equivalent) or offer to add an unguaranteed deal into it and offer to take back Mayo. 

I think Henson's an interesting player and I don't see Bass as part of the future but I want to be sure we only send out picks when necessary as opposed to lesser-quality players on non-guaranteed deals.

Re: Bass trade Idea
« Reply #9 on: August 06, 2014, 02:06:17 PM »

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Like a few of us said in the other thread, there's no way Milwaukee makes this trade. They're not looking to trade Henson just to trade him, and you're ignoring the context of the articles you cite.
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