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Re: Idea: Rondo and Green to Houston?
« Reply #15 on: July 01, 2014, 02:51:05 PM »

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we can get better packages
I hope so.. To me this deal or a trade woth sacto where we get Mclenore Thomas  and Stauskas would be the best trade option imo..

Re: Idea: Rondo and Green to Houston?
« Reply #16 on: July 01, 2014, 03:03:08 PM »

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A. Lin is an overpriced bum
B. Having Rondo and Green is better than having Parsons.

Re: Idea: Rondo and Green to Houston?
« Reply #17 on: July 01, 2014, 03:51:10 PM »

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I dont hate the idea. Lin would give Smart some time to study and practice the schemes before being thrust into the prime starting role. Parsons and Green are close talent wise. I feel it lacks another piece going to C's however. My guess would be Danny tries scoring Terrance Jones, Capela, Lin and Parsons at the very least for Rondo and Green.
I dont see TJones included in the deal as it would leave the Rockets extremely shorthanded at PF if they also give up Capela... Its one or the other and id prefer Capela
Then I turn them down. Capela,  Lin and Parsons not enough.

Re: Idea: Rondo and Green to Houston?
« Reply #18 on: July 02, 2014, 03:59:17 AM »

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I dont hate the idea. Lin would give Smart some time to study and practice the schemes before being thrust into the prime starting role. Parsons and Green are close talent wise. I feel it lacks another piece going to C's however. My guess would be Danny tries scoring Terrance Jones, Capela, Lin and Parsons at the very least for Rondo and Green.
I dont see TJones included in the deal as it would leave the Rockets extremely shorthanded at PF if they also give up Capela... Its one or the other and id prefer Capela
Then I turn them down. Capela,  Lin and Parsons not enough.
Id make them give Terrence Jones. He put up almost the same numbers as Sully but with 1.3 blocks a game. he also has a longer wingspan, standing reach, and vertical and no back problems.

Im sure Howard commands most of the touches down low and gets a lot of the rebounds, but Jones did well for himself considering he was on a stacked team.
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Re: Idea: Rondo and Green to Houston?
« Reply #19 on: July 02, 2014, 08:11:24 AM »

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This trade seems to assume that Green is a throw in with no value.  Kind of like taking him off our hands.  I don't see it that way.  Green is no big start but at his current contract, is an asset.

I would start with Rondo and Wallace in any talks with Houston, not Rondo and Green.  This may not interest them but so be it.  We can do better for just Rondo and keep Green for another deal.

Re: Idea: Rondo and Green to Houston?
« Reply #20 on: July 03, 2014, 08:56:25 AM »

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I dont hate the idea. Lin would give Smart some time to study and practice the schemes before being thrust into the prime starting role. Parsons and Green are close talent wise. I feel it lacks another piece going to C's however. My guess would be Danny tries scoring Terrance Jones, Capela, Lin and Parsons at the very least for Rondo and Green.

I'm with Csfan

Re: Idea: Rondo and Green to Houston?
« Reply #21 on: July 03, 2014, 10:13:06 AM »

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Call Rondo and Parsons a wash--though they're not, Parsons is probably a bit more in demand--and you're talking Lin and Capela for Rondo?

Too bad Ashik is gone--I think I'd rather deal with Sacro.

Re: Idea: Rondo and Green to Houston?
« Reply #22 on: July 03, 2014, 11:06:57 AM »

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Not sure that this wouldn't be the best deal out there for us.

In Parsons we get a solid future SF that is a more consistent scorer than Green, and a superior passer.
He is only two years younger than Jeff, but at very least he is an appealing asset to other teams..even with a larger contract. I would gladly swap Greens contract with Parsons.

In Lin we get a capable PG who by all accounts is a positive team player and person.  He gives us a transition to handing the team over to Smart.  He's a better scorer than Rondo and might be a better fit to system that Stevens wants to put in place.  BEST OF ALL his contract expires at the end of the year just like Rondo..so we can let him walk.

In Capalla we get a phenomenally athletic big guy who has potential to be that defensive low post defender we've all been screaming for.  I believe he's 6'10-6'11 with long arms and a great vertical.  His big knock is that he has zero offensive game and just dunks...that doesn't worry me too much.

I really don't see how any deal with Sac-town can be any better.  For all of Mclemore's gifts he has the IQ of a rock not to mention we already have Bradley and Young at SG.  Also Thomas will cost us just as much as Lin with out the expiring contract.  I also don't think he'll be as quiet handing over the team to Smart as the season progresses....I have nothing to obviously to support that just my own thinking of course.


Re: Idea: Rondo and Green to Houston?
« Reply #23 on: July 03, 2014, 11:18:54 AM »

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It also looks like Houston already has a trade partner for Lin...Philly has stepped up to the plate.

Re: Idea: Rondo and Green to Houston?
« Reply #24 on: July 03, 2014, 06:40:40 PM »

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Not sure that this wouldn't be the best deal out there for us.

In Parsons we get a solid future SF that is a more consistent scorer than Green, and a superior passer.
He is only two years younger than Jeff, but at very least he is an appealing asset to other teams..even with a larger contract. I would gladly swap Greens contract with Parsons.

In Lin we get a capable PG who by all accounts is a positive team player and person.  He gives us a transition to handing the team over to Smart.  He's a better scorer than Rondo and might be a better fit to system that Stevens wants to put in place.  BEST OF ALL his contract expires at the end of the year just like Rondo..so we can let him walk.

In Capalla we get a phenomenally athletic big guy who has potential to be that defensive low post defender we've all been screaming for.  I believe he's 6'10-6'11 with long arms and a great vertical.  His big knock is that he has zero offensive game and just dunks...that doesn't worry me too much.

I really don't see how any deal with Sac-town can be any better.  For all of Mclemore's gifts he has the IQ of a rock not to mention we already have Bradley and Young at SG.  Also Thomas will cost us just as much as Lin with out the expiring contract.  I also don't think he'll be as quiet handing over the team to Smart as the season progresses....I have nothing to obviously to support that just my own thinking of course.

I won't deny that Lin, Parsons are decent players or that Capela has "potential". But I don't take the deal as Lin is strictly a one year rental he doesn't have great value even as an expiring deal because his cap number is just 8.5million. Capela is only potential right now and likely not NBA ready. Parsons is overrated and will likely be overpaid to agree to a S&T. I'd prefer Rondo to Detroit for 2 picks and Monroe because team gets to keep Green and possibly flip him for something better.

Re: Idea: Rondo and Green to Houston?
« Reply #25 on: July 03, 2014, 06:54:53 PM »

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I agree totally. This is a second rate deal for a terrific player. With Smart here and no Love, it might be in our interest to move Rondo but for a much better deal.

Re: Idea: Rondo and Green to Houston?
« Reply #26 on: July 03, 2014, 07:18:39 PM »

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I've seen several reports lately that say that DA won't trade Rondo for pennies on the dollar and if nothing works out he's ok with him walking at the end of 2015 and recouping Rondo's cap hit.  I personally would rather get pieces if he is inevitably going to leave.

Re: Idea: Rondo and Green to Houston?
« Reply #27 on: July 03, 2014, 07:22:39 PM »

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I've seen several reports lately that say that DA won't trade Rondo for pennies on the dollar and if nothing works out he's ok with him walking at the end of 2015 and recouping Rondo's cap hit.  I personally would rather get pieces if he is inevitably going to leave.
Now this I agree with. Team should try to get something for him. Lets not worry too much though as there is always a sign and trade option.

Re: Idea: Rondo and Green to Houston?
« Reply #28 on: July 03, 2014, 07:26:52 PM »

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I've seen several reports lately that say that DA won't trade Rondo for pennies on the dollar and if nothing works out he's ok with him walking at the end of 2015 and recouping Rondo's cap hit.  I personally would rather get pieces if he is inevitably going to leave.

I'd feel the same way.  The problem with your idea is that it is not inevitable that he is going to leave.  I think he's more likely to stay than not.

If Ainge is willing to trade Rondo, I think he should hold out for a return along the lines of two firsts, at least one of which is a likely lottery pick, plus a young player who is better than Sullinger. (Good enough that you think it is a no-brainer to say yes if offered a deal of Sully for that player.)
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Re: Idea: Rondo and Green to Houston?
« Reply #29 on: July 03, 2014, 08:43:39 PM »

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Not interested at all in Parson's as a return on Rondo, nor in Lin.

Neither guy is anything special a player,  but Rondo is.   If rather keep Rondo and see how we can do this year rather than five him away for crumbs.

Edit:
Just noticed this was to include Green as well.  In that case an even more emphatic "No". Basically means wed be trading rondo for Lin straight up...that's really low return given that Rondo is far superior.
 
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