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Re: McGary enters draft after being suspended 1 year for marijuana
« Reply #15 on: April 25, 2014, 06:08:38 PM »

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The penalty is ridiculous.  One year for a first time offense? 

What's the penalty if one of their beloved "student-athletes" gets charged with assault or DUI?

Gotta love the NCAA pulling a kid aside who has been ruled out for the year for a testing too. 

He broke the rules, I get that.  He should get punished but nowhere near what the NCAA handed down. I don't blame the kid one bit for going pro after that punishment.

I just looked it up -- you're routed to the football program.


If you're already in the football program, you get promoted to a starting gig.

I just have a sneaking suspicion that the NCAA penalty isn't as severe.  Although the school may throw someone off the team for such an incident.  Especially if that DUI resulted in a fatality.

I just think having a student union or some sort of body to represent the student-athletes would do wonders.  Then you most likely have some third party arbitrator sifting through some of this NCAA nonsense.   A year gets reduced to a 5 game first offense suspension or some sort of reasonable punishment.


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Re: McGary enters draft after being suspended 1 year for marijuana
« Reply #16 on: April 25, 2014, 06:17:44 PM »

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Seems a bit harsh for a youngster s first offense.

Nobody else ever try pot? ::)


Re: McGary enters draft after being suspended 1 year for marijuana
« Reply #17 on: April 25, 2014, 06:18:01 PM »

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The McGary punishment is crazy.

The smoking aside, i have no interest in McGary at 17. He doesn't do anything particularly well besides run the floor, and he doesn't have much upside.

Ever since his back surgery, does he still run the floor well? If not he isn't even worth drafting until the late second round.

Re: McGary enters draft after being suspended 1 year for marijuana
« Reply #18 on: April 25, 2014, 07:07:07 PM »

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The McGary punishment is crazy.

The smoking aside, i have no interest in McGary at 17. He doesn't do anything particularly well besides run the floor, and he doesn't have much upside.

Ever since his back surgery, does he still run the floor well? If not he isn't even worth drafting until the late second round.

I don't think McGary is a good choice at #17, but he had an elite steal rate for a big, and was the best outlet passer I've seen in college since Kevin Love.  (He was still nowhere as good at that as Love, who might be the best outlet passer in history.  But McGary is good).  He's also a very good passer from the high post -- he eviscerated Syracuse's 2-3 zone in the tourney passing over it.  His offensive rebound rate was tops in the big 10, despite being a freshman.  He has a pretty diverse skillset, both offensively and defensively.  Injuries are a major concern, as are the occasional head-scratching plays.  But I think if he were healthy all year, he'd be a surefire top 10 pick.

But he's not healthy currently, and there is a very large risk this becomes chronic, so I agree he's second-round material.  You're vastly understating his abilities if you think he's only a big who runs the floor, however.

Re: McGary enters draft after being suspended 1 year for marijuana
« Reply #19 on: April 25, 2014, 07:25:16 PM »

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The McGary punishment is crazy.

The smoking aside, i have no interest in McGary at 17. He doesn't do anything particularly well besides run the floor, and he doesn't have much upside.

Ever since his back surgery, does he still run the floor well? If not he isn't even worth drafting until the late second round.

I don't think McGary is a good choice at #17, but he had an elite steal rate for a big, and was the best outlet passer I've seen in college since Kevin Love.  (He was still nowhere as good at that as Love, who might be the best outlet passer in history.  But McGary is good).  He's also a very good passer from the high post -- he eviscerated Syracuse's 2-3 zone in the tourney passing over it.  His offensive rebound rate was tops in the big 10, despite being a freshman.  He has a pretty diverse skillset, both offensively and defensively.  Injuries are a major concern, as are the occasional head-scratching plays.  But I think if he were healthy all year, he'd be a surefire top 10 pick.

But he's not healthy currently, and there is a very large risk this becomes chronic, so I agree he's second-round material.  You're vastly understating his abilities if you think he's only a big who runs the floor, however.

True that he was a very good offensive rebounder and good passer. But i dont know if he will still be a dominant offensive rebounder when he is playing in the pros against bigger faster competition, and doing so after back surgery. He will be undersized as a center in the NBA.

In less than 20 minutes per game, over 1 season, his sample size is also very small in which to accurately extrapolate.

His man to man defense and lack of scoring ability even 5 feet from the hoop are also a problem.

To be more specific, if healthy, i think that running the floor is the one skill that would be guaranteed to translate to the pros.

Re: McGary enters draft after being suspended 1 year for marijuana
« Reply #20 on: April 25, 2014, 07:54:09 PM »

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Hell yeah, he is worth the 17th pick. 

He is better than a whole group of players that are slated for the 1st round that have bust written all over them.
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« Reply #21 on: April 25, 2014, 08:10:15 PM »

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Players take all kinds of stuff for pain. I'm a high school athlete and the stuff you see players take (painkillers, prescription pills) makes you wish weed was legal.

I get get back problem's playing football, I can only imagine what a hefty 6'10 guy gets with his back playing DI basketball.

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« Reply #22 on: April 25, 2014, 08:41:57 PM »

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Just another example of how out of touch the NCAA is with reality and fairness.

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« Reply #23 on: April 25, 2014, 08:45:28 PM »

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How did McGary get pinched while being out injured, yet Larry Sanders made it through three college seasons unscathed?
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Re: McGary enters draft after being suspended 1 year for marijuana
« Reply #24 on: April 25, 2014, 10:08:48 PM »

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Re: McGary enters draft after being suspended 1 year for marijuana
« Reply #25 on: April 25, 2014, 10:57:34 PM »

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The rule is ridiculous.
Either that, or athletes should lay off the weed. It's not that hard.
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« Reply #26 on: April 25, 2014, 11:04:50 PM »

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The rule is ridiculous.
Either that, or athletes should lay off the weed. It's not that hard.

The rule is ridiculous in its arbitrariness and severity. Get caught most of the year, and it's up to your school (you're a student, remember) to deal with you.  Get caught during the NCAA's billion dollar tournament, and you're suspended for a year.  No second increasing penalty.  Just a year ban.  No practicing with your team or anything.  It's just a dumb rule.  They even recognized it was dumb, and changed it after McGary was caught, but wouldn't apply the change retroactively.

I hope those Northwestern kids voted for a union.  Collective bargaining would bring some rationality to that, at least.