Ainge is sending smoke signals

[tstorey_97]

From what I have learned, summer after next Rondo can sign a 5 or 6 year deal in the $90M to $100M range. I understand the "extension talk" represents an option under league rules...it could be done. Three years for $17M..=..$51M.

Why in God's name would this young man take $51M over $90 to $100M? To do "Danny I'll trade you anytime I want" a favor?

If you want Rondo to stay, be comforted, Ainge can pay him more than anyone.

If you expect Rondo to give a "hometown discount," it's a free country, but really? Why does he have an agent?

The market decides and Rondo owes the Celtics nothing. He already gave them a break last deal. His career could end ANY DAY. Take the dang money you've earned it.

[playdream]

From what I have learned, summer after next Rondo can sign a 5 or 6 year deal in the $90M to $100M range. I understand the "extension talk" represents an option under league rules...it could be done. Three years for $17M..=..$51M.

Why in God's name would this young man take $51M over $90 to $100M? To do "Danny I'll trade you anytime I want a favor."

If you want Rondo to stay be comforted, Ainge can pay him more than anyone.

If you expect Rondo to give a "hometown discount," it's a free country, but really? Why does he have an agent?

The market decides and Rondo owes the Celtics nothing. He already gave them a break last deal. His career could and ANY DAY. Take the dang money you've earned it.

Yes but if he keeps playing like this he will be traded very soon..

[Beat LA]

" I am a big D.A. fan and a bigger R.R. fan but he just shared shared pillow talk on the radio in a way that cannot be endearing to Rajon or his agent. Danny isn't stupid. He's not a robot either but he likes to think he's pretty smart and it seems like he just sent a message but the person supposed to get that message appears to be everybody else first and Rajon 2nd. A lot of folks have a real blindspot when it comes to putting themselves in other peoples shoes. If you were Rajon and woke up to hear that what would you think? I wonder what Rajon's old friend Perk thought? Think he picked up the phone and gave his old friend a call and some advice?? "



yeah - Danny thinks he is brilliant and soooooo much smarter and more business savvy than that old soft-hearted Red was.

trouble is, Danny ain't that smart - he's made a couple of very good late first-round draft picks and had the two trades one summer that rebuilt the team. well basically, he was lucky to have gotten KG in one of his trades and KG rebuilt the team and the franchise and the Celtic pedigree by getting the culture back to where it is supposed to be. Danny has made a whole bunch of moves that either hurt the team or resulted in treading water.

Danny worst trait is his blind spot to the players as people - yeah, it's a business, but that's not all it is. a team sport, and even more so, the Boston Celtics, is about team morale and togetherness. Ainge constantly alienates his guys by shopping them around the league. then he acts stunned when Ray Allen bolts for the enemy and signs for less money out of spite.

until Danny changes the way he treats his players, the Celts franchise is going to continue to grow the reputation as a place to rent and not buy. very sad for the one franchise that was always the opposite under Red's leadership.

Thank you for saying this; you're absolutely dead on here, so Tommy Point for you, sir!  It used to be that players didn't want to come here because of the terrible racial issue (thankfully that has gone the way of the dodo), but when KG and Ray came here and won I think that that closed the door on that attitude towards the franchise.  So why aren't we ever an attractive destination for free agents?  Ainge.  It's just what you said about how he treats players and constantly shops them around.  Who would ever want to play for a guy like that?  People are not assets, they are human beings, and until that changes, no one will ever want to play here.  I remember watching an espn top 5 reasons you can't blame about Len Bias and they mentioned that McHale and DJ could have been traded to Dallas in 88-89 (I think) for Sam Perkins, Detlef Schrempf, and 1 or 2 1st round picks, but Red stepped in and said, "no, we want these players to retire here," or something.  Alan Cohen then mentioned that, "Red did convince us, when we had these discussions, that the Celtic Tradition had been built on loyalty."  Auerbach then followed with, "if you want your ball players to be loyal to you and your organization, you've got to be prepared to give loyalty."  Bingo.  I've always felt that because Ainge was traded as a player it negatively affected his attitude towards the subject, despite the fact that, according to The Big Three book, he all but orchestrated the deal to Sacramento because he was unhappy with his contract.  It was a stupid trade and it really makes no sense to me as to why they moved him, but that still shouldn't give him the whole, "if I was traded, anyone can be traded," mentality. 

I also don't think he drafts well, or thinks a few steps ahead.  It's not that he's made mistakes, it's that the players he's drafted since 2007 (Bradley and Sullinger aside, but the Sully pick was a no-brainer so I don't give him that much credit for that one) aren't even in the league anymore, and that's pathetic.  There's no way that a moron like me should be able to, in not much time at all,  watch youtube highlights, read some scouting reports, and see what people think of a certain player on this blog or elsewhere and be able to pick out better players (who we had a legitimate chance to draft) year after year after year than Danny Ainge with his vast resources.  The guy has absolutely no idea what he's doing imho or how to sustain a great run.

We need a time machine.     

[paidthecost2betheboss]

As Ainge admitted Thursday, "I think that Rondo will demand quite a bit in the open market. The competition for Rondo in free agency will be very high."

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Make no mistake, the Celtics would like to keep Rondo, but Ainge doesn’t like the notion that the team must “build around” Rondo, or any one player for that matter. “I don’t like saying that, whether it’s Paul Pierce or Kevin Garnett or Ray Allen,” Ainge said. “And those guys are multiple-time All-Stars. I just don’t like ‘building around’ something. Everybody knows who the best players are on teams, but I just think that gives the players the impression that they’re more important than everybody else on the team and the rookies on the team. I just don’t like how that creates a culture of individualism as opposed to the whole team. [Rondo is] obviously a very important part of our team and has been for years. Some people are going to continue to use [those terms] whether I like it or not. I’m just saying I don’t like to use that.”

“I can’t ever be put in a situation where the sentiment of my relationship with the player prevents me from doing what’s best for the franchise. But that’s the extent of it.”

Get on the phones and shut your fat yapper Danny Is Danny having Marital problems? Why is he getting slack jaw in the course of a few days about a topic he has given little insight into and cannot do much about for months?

[pablohoney]

Ray Allen and Tony Allen are the only free agents the team has lost.   Many free agents have wanted to come here including Sheed, Terry and David West.  West ultimately went elsewhere because go a complicated trade that would have paid him less.

And there is the reason free agents don't come to Boston:  we have never had the cap space to make it happen.   It is that simple.  If we had the money to spend they would come.

Boston is not the place that people force trades to get to..... That is NY or LA usually.   But KG agreed to extend his contract to come to Boston by trade.  He had to want to come here to do that.

[lightspeed5]

oh boy

[BASS_THUMPER]

Pablo got a -8?

[GreenWarrior]

Ray Allen and Tony Allen are the only free agents the team has lost.   Many free agents have wanted to come here including Sheed, Terry and David West.  West ultimately went elsewhere because go a complicated trade that would have paid him less.

And there is the reason free agents don't come to Boston:  we have never had the cap space to make it happen.   It is that simple.  If we had the money to spend they would come.

Boston is not the place that people force trades to get to..... That is NY or LA usually.   But KG agreed to extend his contract to come to Boston by trade.  He had to want to come here to do that.

umm the only reason sheed came here was KG was here. and terry is just glad he's still in the league. dude sucks.

[CoachBo]

From what I have learned, summer after next Rondo can sign a 5 or 6 year deal in the $90M to $100M range. I understand the "extension talk" represents an option under league rules...it could be done. Three years for $17M..=..$51M.

Why in God's name would this young man take $51M over $90 to $100M? To do "Danny I'll trade you anytime I want" a favor?

If you want Rondo to stay, be comforted, Ainge can pay him more than anyone.

If you expect Rondo to give a "hometown discount," it's a free country, but really? Why does he have an agent?

The market decides and Rondo owes the Celtics nothing. He already gave them a break last deal. His career could end ANY DAY. Take the dang money you've earned it.

If Ainge pays a player with Rondo's limitations 100M, he should be fired.

[clover]

From what I have learned, summer after next Rondo can sign a 5 or 6 year deal in the $90M to $100M range. I understand the "extension talk" represents an option under league rules...it could be done. Three years for $17M..=..$51M.

Why in God's name would this young man take $51M over $90 to $100M? To do "Danny I'll trade you anytime I want" a favor?

If you want Rondo to stay, be comforted, Ainge can pay him more than anyone.

If you expect Rondo to give a "hometown discount," it's a free country, but really? Why does he have an agent?

The market decides and Rondo owes the Celtics nothing. He already gave them a break last deal. His career could end ANY DAY. Take the dang money you've earned it.

If Ainge pays a player with Rondo's limitations 100M, he should be fired.

And he likely would be. The only question would be when.

[rondofan1255]

This reminds me a bit of the Starbury signing for the Celts, and to a lesser extent Nate, in terms of risk.

I hope Bynum plays well for the Pacers!

[Celtics4ever]

When is Ainge not sending smoke signals?


I never trust what he says but I sure as heck trust him as a GM.