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Do you still draft height first?
« on: January 09, 2014, 12:39:11 PM »

Offline jay

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Hakeem and Bowie over Jordan has been talked about for years.  Oden over Durant.  Olowakandi and Kwame Brown were #1 picks.


That said, if Boston gets a top 3 pick, is Embiid the guy over Wiggins, Parker, Smart, or Randle?

If the pick is #7 or #8 do you take Willie Cauley-Stein over 6-5 guards like Zach LaVine, Dante Exum, Gary Harris, or Jordan Clarkson?


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« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2014, 12:41:24 PM »

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Talented height, yes.


If the talent is equal or very close.

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« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2014, 12:45:07 PM »

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Personally, I still like building inside/out if the quality height is there.

However, if there is a transcendent wing player sitting there, you take him over the big these days.

I don't think Embiid is polished enough to justify taking him over Parker right now.

People try to make him out to be Hakeem 2.0 but Olajuwon was farther along and more polished coming out of U. Houston.


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« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2014, 01:03:37 PM »

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All things equal, sure.

But all things are never equal.

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« Reply #4 on: January 09, 2014, 01:15:28 PM »

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Hakeem and Bowie over Jordan has been talked about for years.  Oden over Durant.  Olowakandi and Kwame Brown were #1 picks.


That said, if Boston gets a top 3 pick, is Embiid the guy over Wiggins, Parker, Smart, or Randle?

If the pick is #7 or #8 do you take Willie Cauley-Stein over 6-5 guards like Zach LaVine, Dante Exum, Gary Harris, or Jordan Clarkson?


As for your examples, the Dream is a top 10-15 player all time, worthy of the 1st pick.

Bowie, not so much.  That was a need pick since Portland had taken Drexler the year before.

Oden, we will never know because of injuries. 

Brown was just the wrong big man.  Gasol (the third pick) was the best player. (followed by Tony Parker)


The Kandi draft again was the wrong big man (Dirk followed by Pierce, Carter, Jamison)

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« Reply #5 on: January 09, 2014, 01:28:59 PM »

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All things equal, sure.

But all things are never equal.
Nailed it, especially with the rule adjustments that continue to favor slashing wing players.
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Smart drafting prioritization:
1. BPA
2. If multiple players are about the same in terms of talent, take the player that fits the biggest need.
3. If multiple players are about the same in terms of talent and your team has multiple needs of equal importance, take the bigger player.

In the C's case, they have holes everywhere but PG.  Embiid would be the smartest player to take if everyone on the board at that time is at approximately the same talent level because he's the bigger player.  At the moment, I only see Parker as ahead of him in terms of talent but that's just my opinion and things can (and probably will) change by the time the draft rolls around.

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I lean towards taking the best player available.  I don't mind if BPA is a wing and not a big.   Not only that, but if BPA is considered undersized for his position, I'm not going to pass over that in favor of someone with more prototypical size.
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« Reply #8 on: January 09, 2014, 04:04:03 PM »

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Overall With equal talent always go with size. Especially when comparing players at the same position Paul George developed into a stud. That doesn't happen if it where not for his rediculois measurements compared to other wings. The outside of top 5 surprise stars usually poses above average measurables for their positions. IE rondo wingspan, hibbert size, Stephenson length,
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