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Re: 3 trade ideas with NYN, GS and UTAH
« Reply #15 on: November 18, 2013, 12:09:45 PM »

Offline Chris

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1. The Knicks have no use for Jeff Green
2. Barnes and Speights are dependable bench help; in fact they are better than Bass and Lee
3. Hayward is significantly better than Bradley

Sorry, but none of these are realistic.

-I disagree. They could use green. Alot more help than stoudermire. They have no bench sf depth.

- outside of barnes look how effective the gs bench has been the last several games. If their starters have an off game, likely gs loses games.  They need to balance their lineup

- hayward is better. Thats why the swap option

-The Knicks one, while not a great deal for the Knicks I think is realistic.  I don't think they would do it though.  I think they will use Shumpert to get a PG and/or another defensive center as Chandler insurance.

-The Warriors do need more depth, but it is going to take a LOT to get them to give up Barnes.  Not a marginal upgrade from Speights to Bass, and a step down to Lee.  And while the draft pick is nice, it's not what they are looking for.  They are trying to win now. 

-With this, you are either dramatically overrating Bradley's value, or dramatically underrating Hayward's.  Hayward is playing like an All-Star, and he is absolutely loved by several GMs.  Utah is planning on building around him, and would need to be absolutely blown away to trade him.  A quality young roleplayer (who is probably a bad fit next to their PG of the future), and the right to swap picks (in a draft where their pick will very likely be the better pick...especially if they trade Hayward), is not blowing them away.


Re: 3 trade ideas with NYN, GS and UTAH
« Reply #16 on: November 18, 2013, 02:54:57 PM »

Offline slamtheking

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If Danny is looking to make a trade soon, i could see these trades working out for everyone involved:

TRADE 1 (Knicks need frontcourt and bench scoring help)

TO NYN: Humprhies, Green
TO BOS: Shumpert, Stoudemire

TRADE 2 (GS need dependable bench help for the playoffs)

TO GS: Bass, Lee, 2014 nets/hawks pick
TO BOS: Barnes, Speights, Nedovic, O'neal (waived)

TRADE 3 (Stevens would like Hayward on the team and both teams could use a shakeup)

TO UTAH: Bradley, Choice to flip 2015 1st pick (Bos/UTAH)
TO BOS: Hayward

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New Celtics lineup

C  - Faverani/Olynyk
PF - Sullinger/Speights/Staudamire
SF - Barnes/Wallace
SG - Hayward/Shumpert/Jcraw/Brooks
PG - Rondo/Nedovic/Pressey

This would be a more exciting looking lineup, especially for the future. I think the role vet guys we have could be very valuable for other teams. Just can't win as a team on their own.
trade 1: no thanks.  we're sending out the best player and a large expiring deal for a lame player on a more-expensive and longer deal as well as obtaining yet another bench-quality SG.  how is this better for us?

trade 2: Bass, Lee and a mid-first round pick in this draft for essentially Barnes?  too much to give up for Barnes. 

Trade 3: Utah wouldn't do it.  they'd most likely have a worse pick than us next year so the pick-flip probably wouldn't entice them and hayward is preferable to AB right now.  if AB continues to improve his shooting, this might be feasible but I still doubt Utah pulls the trigger

Re: 3 trade ideas with NYN, GS and UTAH
« Reply #17 on: November 18, 2013, 03:48:41 PM »

Offline wdleehi

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The Knicks trade makes no sense to the Celtics.


It makes no sense for the Celtics to send Rondo, Green or Humphries for Amare.