Phantom Tank? Rondo/Bynum idea

[jay]

What if Danny traded Humphries contract and filler/picks to Philly for Bynum.  It doesnt have to be much because they are letting him walk anyway.


Have Rondo/Bynum/Sullinger sit out the first half of the season, at least until Christmas.

So you have this ready built rotation/bench of Bass/Lee/Green/Wallace/Bradley but you have no true center, no point guard, and no pure scorer.   Those 5 guys with Olykyk/Melo at Center and a nobody at point guard WILL NOT WIN GAMES.


Then you bring Rondo back when its too late.  Bring Sullinger/Bynum back but limit them to 15 minutes.  You are still taking without throwing away talent. 

Hopefully, there is still agreat chance to get a top 5 or 6 pick in the 2014 draft and you come back with:

Rondo  Bradley
2014 Pick  Lee
Green  Wallace
Sullinger  Bass
Bynum  Olykyk  Melo

[manl_lui]

What if Danny traded Humphries contract and filler/picks to Philly for Bynum.  It doesnt have to be much because they are letting him walk anyway.


Have Rondo/Bynum/Sullinger sit out the first half of the season, at least until Christmas.

So you have this ready built rotation/bench of Bass/Lee/Green/Wallace/Bradley but you have no true center, no point guard, and no pure scorer.   Those 5 guys with Olykyk/Melo at Center and a nobody at point guard WILL NOT WIN GAMES.

Bynum is way too overpaid, so no thank you

[jay]

Bynum is way too overpaid, so no thank you

Thats the risk.  Bynum and Rondo are hard to coach and you have a young rookie coach.  If it doesnt work out after 2-3 years, cut bait with one or both of them.  Let Wallace/Lee/Bass expire.  Build around the guy you drafted in 2014.  If they do mesh together, then you have a loaded team.  And you still have draft picks coming your way to build with. 

[saltlover]

I'd had that thought too, but it depends what you're paying Bynum, because he's a huge risk.  That contract could blow up in your face and set you back three years.

Also, I don't know that Bynum's contract will be insurable, and that's typically a big deal to most owners.  Still, at the right price it could be a very good move.

[connor]

I'd had that thought too, but it depends what you're paying Bynum, because he's a huge risk.  That contract could blow up in your face and set you back three years.

Also, I don't know that Bynum's contract will be insurable, and that's typically a big deal to most owners.  Still, at the right price it could be a very good move.

Thats what it all comes down to.

I'm sure we could pry him away from Philly for pennies on the dollar of what he is worth given that they are just going to let him walk anyway.

The real issue is the contract that you'd have to sign Bynum to.

Check out this espn article with guys saying how much they would pay for certain free agents: http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/page/5-on-5-130703/what-top-nba-free-agents-worth

If I could sign Bynum for anywhere near what the last 3 deals suggest, 2 years 24-35 million I'd take a chance on him (and with prior injury exception/Exhibit 3 clauses). Anything beyond that and the risk is too great given the financials.

I think its a really interesting idea though because we could still be in the running for a lottery pick, while also bringing in the next potential superstar to pair with Rondo. If Bynum is healthy (and that is a 7foot if) he would be great with Rondo, Green and a lottery pick (doesn't have to be Wiggins just a solid talent). That teams is right back in contention.

[kozlodoev]

What if Danny traded Humphries contract and filler/picks to Philly for Bynum.  It doesnt have to be much because they are letting him walk anyway.


Have Rondo/Bynum/Sullinger sit out the first half of the season, at least until Christmas.

So you have this ready built rotation/bench of Bass/Lee/Green/Wallace/Bradley but you have no true center, no point guard, and no pure scorer.   Those 5 guys with Olykyk/Melo at Center and a nobody at point guard WILL NOT WIN GAMES.

Bynum is way too overpaid, so no thank you

How is he way overpaid when he isn't under contract for next season?!

[saltlover]

I'd had that thought too, but it depends what you're paying Bynum, because he's a huge risk.  That contract could blow up in your face and set you back three years.

Also, I don't know that Bynum's contract will be insurable, and that's typically a big deal to most owners.  Still, at the right price it could be a very good move.

Thats what it all comes down to.

I'm sure we could pry him away from Philly for pennies on the dollar of what he is worth given that they are just going to let him walk anyway.

The real issue is the contract that you'd have to sign Bynum to.

Check out this espn article with guys saying how much they would pay for certain free agents: http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/page/5-on-5-130703/what-top-nba-free-agents-worth

If I could sign Bynum for anywhere near what the last 3 deals suggest, 2 years 24-35 million I'd take a chance on him (and with prior injury exception/Exhibit 3 clauses). Anything beyond that and the risk is too great given the financials.

I think its a really interesting idea though because we could still be in the running for a lottery pick, while also bringing in the next potential superstar to pair with Rondo. If Bynum is healthy (and that is a 7foot if) he would be great with Rondo, Green and a lottery pick (doesn't have to be Wiggins just a solid talent). That teams is right back in contention.

I'd go 4 years/$51 million (first year $12 million and 4.5% raises in subsequent years) with year three being a team option and year 4 being a player option.

[kozlodoev]

Check out this espn article with guys saying how much they would pay for certain free agents: http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/page/5-on-5-130703/what-top-nba-free-agents-worth

It's unbelievable people think Monta Ellis is worth just the MLE. He may be inconsistent, indeed, by he averaged ~20 ppg over the last three seasons.

[connor]

I'd go 4 years/$51 million (first year $12 million and 4.5% raises in subsequent years) with year three being a team option and year 4 being a player option.

If that was the going rate for him I'd definitely take the chance, but I have a feeling that there is going to be another team out there willing to accept the risk and overpay in years or money.

As long as we would have an out after 2 years I take the chance since we are tanking this year so it doesn't matter, which really makes it dangerous for one year.

If we could send them Humphries and 1/2 future picks and sign him to a deal with only the first year guaranteed and a partial year 2 guarantee, with a team option for year 3, I do it.

That's a lot of things that have to fall into place for this to work though. 

[saltlover]

I'd go 4 years/$51 million (first year $12 million and 4.5% raises in subsequent years) with year three being a team option and year 4 being a player option.

If that was the going rate for him I'd definitely take the chance, but I have a feeling that there is going to be another team out there willing to accept the risk and overpay in years or money.

As long as we would have an out after 2 years I take the chance since we are tanking this year so it doesn't matter, which really makes it dangerous for one year.

If we could send them Humphries and 1/2 future picks and sign him to a deal with only the first year guaranteed and a partial year 2 guarantee, with a team option for year 3, I do it.

That's a lot of things that have to fall into place for this to work though.

I think another team will offer more as well, especially Dallas if they miss out on Howard.  Still, I don't think it's wise to go too much more than that given the very high risk nature of Bynum.  You should get a discount for taking on risk - absent that discount, you should walk away.

[sofutomygaha]

Bynum is a free agent. If we want him, we can have him

(I don't think we do. I have a sneaking suspicion that no one does)

[LooseCannon]

Check out this espn article with guys saying how much they would pay for certain free agents: http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/page/5-on-5-130703/what-top-nba-free-agents-worth

It's unbelievable people think Monta Ellis is worth just the MLE. He may be inconsistent, indeed, by he averaged ~20 ppg over the last three seasons.

Inefficient volume scorers who don't play defense are the sort of players who get overpaid by poorly-run teams.  The comparison to players such as JR Smith and Jamal Crawford is accurate and Ellis shouldn't be paid much more than those guys.

[GreenEnvy]

Bynum will never be consistently great. His knees are done.

He may be serviceable, but not your franchise center.

I would not give him 8 figures a year.

[connor]

Bynum is a free agent. If we want him, we can have him

(I don't think we do. I have a sneaking suspicion that no one does)

We don't have the cap room to absorb the deal he would get. Would have to be a sign and trade with Philly.

Some team will definitely take a flyer on the guy. Teams might not be interested in paying 8 figures a year for multiple years to him, but that just will run down his price.

At that point it becomes a "dutch auction" where they start off at a really high asking price and keep dropping it until someone bites.

[erisred]

I think I trust Oden's knees more than Bynum's knees...and I don't trust Oden's for much more than a Vet Min deal, and it's not even my money!