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Re: Jackie Mac on WEEI
« Reply #15 on: June 28, 2013, 11:16:56 AM »

Offline Brendan

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Agree with Roy stretch makes no sense.

If anything try to get a buyout in place, but probably not until next year and only then if you save cap space to get a FA.

Re: Jackie Mac on WEEI
« Reply #16 on: June 28, 2013, 11:17:51 AM »

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saying that c's might waive Wallace , and use the stretch provision. Just her guess at this point

I would love more info on what the "stretch provision" means.
You take the number of years left on the contract and double it and add one.

Then you spread the total value of the contract over that many years.

So instead of 30 million over 3 years, it'd be 30 million over 7 years. So a cap hit of 4.285 per year for the next 7 years.

I hate the idea, personally.  The only thing worse than having bad contracts on your cap is having a significant amount of dead money for a player who isn't on your team anymore.

In 2020, I don't want Gerald Wallace to still be eating up our cap room.

I mean, over the next two years we're probably tanking and won't have cap space anyway.  In that third year, I'm sure Danny (or our new GM ;)) will try to move that expiring contract.  That's certainly better than having Wallace on our cap an additional four years.

Yea I hate the stretch provision in this situation.

+2. Just get it over with. Shoot, just make the guy inactive if you don't want him around... but just get it over with.
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Re: Jackie Mac on WEEI
« Reply #17 on: June 28, 2013, 11:19:17 AM »

Offline beantownboy171

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saying that c's might waive Wallace , and use the stretch provision. Just her guess at this point

I would love more info on what the "stretch provision" means.
You take the number of years left on the contract and double it and add one.

Then you spread the total value of the contract over that many years.

So instead of 30 million over 3 years, it'd be 30 million over 7 years. So a cap hit of 4.285 per year for the next 7 years.

I hate the idea, personally.  The only thing worse than having bad contracts on your cap is having a significant amount of dead money for a player who isn't on your team anymore.

In 2020, I don't want Gerald Wallace to still be eating up our cap room.

I mean, over the next two years we're probably tanking and won't have cap space anyway.  In that third year, I'm sure Danny (or our new GM ;)) will try to move that expiring contract.  That's certainly better than having Wallace on our cap an additional four years.
Just a thought here roy.

Realistically Wallace's contract could have a lot of value when he has 1 year remaining on it. Similarly to Pierce's non-guaranteed contract this offseason, if a team is looking to cut cap immediately they could trade 10-11 million in salary, acquire Gerald Wallace and activated the stretch provision then. That would save our trading partner 6 million or so on their cap. Maybe we could fetch a draft pick, or the salary we bring back may be a player we have interest in.

Basically, why use the provision now? Is there a chance we have cap space this offseason?

Re: Jackie Mac on WEEI
« Reply #18 on: June 28, 2013, 11:32:03 AM »

Offline Fred Roberts

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G Wallace is not even 31 years old yet. I know his contract sucks and his play is down lately, but he's not entirely terrible given the grand scheme of terrible NBA contracts.

He can fill a role and run with Avery, Rondo and Jeff for a couple years, and become a valuable expiring deal as others have already noted.

He's 31 this coming season. Certainly, not too old to have a bounce back year. 31!!

Re: Jackie Mac on WEEI
« Reply #19 on: June 28, 2013, 11:55:49 AM »

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I say keep Gerald Wallace for now.

Give him a season and see if he can improve his play while here in Boston. Reevaluate his place in Boston then. If G-Wallace can improve his performances, he will become a tradeable asset. If not, then he offers nothing to the team.

The team doesn't figure to have cap space this summer anyway. If they create it next summer, Danny can always use the stretch provision then. Which would be $20 mil by 5 years so $4 mil per.

Or even the summer after at $10 mil by 3 years so $3.3 mil per year.

Or just let him expire in three years if there isn't a good enough reason in free agency (acquisition) to use the stretch on G.Wallace. Avoid having $3-4 million of dead weight on the cap in future seasons.   

That flexibility with the stretch provision will be there down the road. No need to use it prematurely. Keep it in the back pocket for now. Give G-Wallace some time to try and reestablish his trade value.

Re: Jackie Mac on WEEI
« Reply #20 on: June 28, 2013, 12:05:17 PM »

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Wallace was beyond putrid last season. Just awful. No stretch because in year 3 with that deal expiring, you can dump him.

My guess is wallace will be hurt most of his time in Boston.

Re: Jackie Mac on WEEI
« Reply #21 on: June 28, 2013, 01:01:56 PM »

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He has had only one bad year.  It is a "who knows" kind of thing but I think it would be wrong to just assume that he is done.  He did his best when he was a top player on a bad team.  Maybe that will be the case again.

He is clearly not part of the future rebuilding plans, at least I wouldn't think, but I think there is a good chance that he can generate some value for himself if he plays well.  He will be flipped (not released), the only question is when.

Re: Jackie Mac on WEEI
« Reply #22 on: June 28, 2013, 01:16:20 PM »

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When you consider Wallace's age, style of play, and injury history, especially his multiple concussions, there are enough factors there to think he might be at the level of decline where he wouldn't be able to sign with a playoff team if he negotiated a buyout just after the trade deadline.  I'm not even sure he can finish his current contract without being forced to retire for medical reasons.
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