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Re: Who do you want in our range in this draft?
« Reply #45 on: May 15, 2013, 06:46:40 PM »

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After seeing the draftexpress YouTube video of him, I'm sold.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmdpZD61dUw

We have to take Steven Adams at 16. With all his offensive flaws and him being a project, one skill this video showed strikes me, and is perfect for Boston.

At the 4:11 mark of the vid where the show the Defensive Potential. The way he defends the pick and roll and how he can take the guy handling the ball AND recovers quickly to his man is perfect for the Boston defense. Not every Center can do this, and he's showing already that he can. That footwork is ridiculously fast for a Center!

I'm sold, we need to take him 16th.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzyr-SZPMbg&list=UURUErR61S_Fl8AFMdRtJ6kw&index=1

this guy is much better. Bc not only is he as fast, athletic but also has some transferable skills from college to the nba.

Adams is sushi raw and it would be a risky move to draft him. Again we already have Melo who is raw too , but now has 1 semi pro year under his belt. If you watch Melo's scouting film, he will also make your mouth drop as Adams. But if you really  watched him play you knew how raw he was.

Not the case with Sully and not the case with Dieng. So if we want a pf/c that can help us out , nil risk involved but has some upside, this is the guy to get. I'm pretty sure though with the lack of guys with size in this draft, he will be gone in the 10-15 range.

Again from what i've seen, i'm big on Saric. But the contract buyout is not something the celts need to get into, plus he has already said he wants to be drafted by or before the lotto.

The next big talents that should be available to us are

Shane Larkin, Dennis Shroeder, Livio Jean Charles. All of these guys have proven they can play at a consistent level, and have transferable nba skills

Larkin = Chris Paul meets Nate Robinson. Can take over games. Can shoot, score in traffic, pass, play defense. The only thing he can't do which is out of his control is grow taller, being only 5'11. But so what?? If he can play, he can help us out on our 2nd unit and at times i can see him being on the court with Rondo too , bc of his shooting capabilities

Schroeder = composed Rondo, that can shoot and doesn't gamble on defense alot. His pentrating capability is 2nd to none. And after watching more vids on him, he can drive left but prefers to usually go right. He can't finish left though, but i don't think that really matters. Imagine having two rondo like players play together at times? Could be a nightmare to deal with

Livio Jean Charles = Best comparison is Amir Johnson. 6'9-6'10 and has incredible 7'3 wingspan. This guy is a super role/garbage player , that can defend multiple positions and has some underrated skills like a decent jump shot. Rondo won't be running by himself in transition anymore bc of this guy. We will get some tip ins on the offensive zone finally. From just below the key, only needs a couple of steps to get a layup. Blocks shots and rebounds at a high rate. Best thing is, his motor runs high all game long. Might be a reach, but could end up being a steal. The way he is , physically, defensively, motor, intensity reminds me of some parts of kgs game.

I am super high on Shrauder. This kid is only 19 years old and is a prototypical NBA PG with blazing speed. I've heard Rondo comparisons and Collison comparisons which are both right in their perspective. Have a feeling I'm one of the few people who wouldn't care if we took a PG but if Shrauder is there at 16, Danny needs to take a long hard look.

Dieng I think fills a big time need for the current roster and if we're running it back I think he's a great fit.

LVC is a terrific garbage hyper-role player but 16 is way too high for this kid.
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Re: Who do you want in our range in this draft?
« Reply #46 on: May 15, 2013, 07:20:46 PM »

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After seeing the draftexpress YouTube video of him, I'm sold.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmdpZD61dUw

We have to take Steven Adams at 16. With all his offensive flaws and him being a project, one skill this video showed strikes me, and is perfect for Boston.

At the 4:11 mark of the vid where the show the Defensive Potential. The way he defends the pick and roll and how he can take the guy handling the ball AND recovers quickly to his man is perfect for the Boston defense. Not every Center can do this, and he's showing already that he can. That footwork is ridiculously fast for a Center!

I'm sold, we need to take him 16th.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzyr-SZPMbg&list=UURUErR61S_Fl8AFMdRtJ6kw&index=1

this guy is much better. Bc not only is he as fast, athletic but also has some transferable skills from college to the nba.

Adams is sushi raw and it would be a risky move to draft him. Again we already have Melo who is raw too , but now has 1 semi pro year under his belt. If you watch Melo's scouting film, he will also make your mouth drop as Adams. But if you really  watched him play you knew how raw he was.

Not the case with Sully and not the case with Dieng. So if we want a pf/c that can help us out , nil risk involved but has some upside, this is the guy to get. I'm pretty sure though with the lack of guys with size in this draft, he will be gone in the 10-15 range.

Again from what i've seen, i'm big on Saric. But the contract buyout is not something the celts need to get into, plus he has already said he wants to be drafted by or before the lotto.

The next big talents that should be available to us are

Shane Larkin, Dennis Shroeder, Livio Jean Charles. All of these guys have proven they can play at a consistent level, and have transferable nba skills

Larkin = Chris Paul meets Nate Robinson. Can take over games. Can shoot, score in traffic, pass, play defense. The only thing he can't do which is out of his control is grow taller, being only 5'11. But so what?? If he can play, he can help us out on our 2nd unit and at times i can see him being on the court with Rondo too , bc of his shooting capabilities

Schroeder = composed Rondo, that can shoot and doesn't gamble on defense alot. His pentrating capability is 2nd to none. And after watching more vids on him, he can drive left but prefers to usually go right. He can't finish left though, but i don't think that really matters. Imagine having two rondo like players play together at times? Could be a nightmare to deal with

Livio Jean Charles = Best comparison is Amir Johnson. 6'9-6'10 and has incredible 7'3 wingspan. This guy is a super role/garbage player , that can defend multiple positions and has some underrated skills like a decent jump shot. Rondo won't be running by himself in transition anymore bc of this guy. We will get some tip ins on the offensive zone finally. From just below the key, only needs a couple of steps to get a layup. Blocks shots and rebounds at a high rate. Best thing is, his motor runs high all game long. Might be a reach, but could end up being a steal. The way he is , physically, defensively, motor, intensity reminds me of some parts of kgs game.

I am super high on Shrauder. This kid is only 19 years old and is a prototypical NBA PG with blazing speed. I've heard Rondo comparisons and Collison comparisons which are both right in their perspective. Have a feeling I'm one of the few people who wouldn't care if we took a PG but if Shrauder is there at 16, Danny needs to take a long hard look.

Dieng I think fills a big time need for the current roster and if we're running it back I think he's a great fit.

LVC is a terrific garbage hyper-role player but 16 is way too high for this kid.

LVC got 27 points against young high end usa talent. A nobody just can't do this.  We are talking about talent that makes 2014 draft one of the deepest in a long time.

He has above avg height , wingspan, quickness and athleticism for a pf. LVC avg 15 pts, 8-9 rbs, 3 blocks, is not out of the question eventually in the nba. To me that is a 15th-16th round pick. Actually that is hovering around 10th pick talent

Re: Who do you want in our range in this draft?
« Reply #47 on: May 15, 2013, 07:38:23 PM »

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After seeing the draftexpress YouTube video of him, I'm sold.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmdpZD61dUw

We have to take Steven Adams at 16. With all his offensive flaws and him being a project, one skill this video showed strikes me, and is perfect for Boston.

At the 4:11 mark of the vid where the show the Defensive Potential. The way he defends the pick and roll and how he can take the guy handling the ball AND recovers quickly to his man is perfect for the Boston defense. Not every Center can do this, and he's showing already that he can. That footwork is ridiculously fast for a Center!

I'm sold, we need to take him 16th.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzyr-SZPMbg&list=UURUErR61S_Fl8AFMdRtJ6kw&index=1

this guy is much better. Bc not only is he as fast, athletic but also has some transferable skills from college to the nba.

Adams is sushi raw and it would be a risky move to draft him. Again we already have Melo who is raw too , but now has 1 semi pro year under his belt. If you watch Melo's scouting film, he will also make your mouth drop as Adams. But if you really  watched him play you knew how raw he was.

Not the case with Sully and not the case with Dieng. So if we want a pf/c that can help us out , nil risk involved but has some upside, this is the guy to get. I'm pretty sure though with the lack of guys with size in this draft, he will be gone in the 10-15 range.

Again from what i've seen, i'm big on Saric. But the contract buyout is not something the celts need to get into, plus he has already said he wants to be drafted by or before the lotto.

The next big talents that should be available to us are

Shane Larkin, Dennis Shroeder, Livio Jean Charles. All of these guys have proven they can play at a consistent level, and have transferable nba skills

Larkin = Chris Paul meets Nate Robinson. Can take over games. Can shoot, score in traffic, pass, play defense. The only thing he can't do which is out of his control is grow taller, being only 5'11. But so what?? If he can play, he can help us out on our 2nd unit and at times i can see him being on the court with Rondo too , bc of his shooting capabilities

Schroeder = composed Rondo, that can shoot and doesn't gamble on defense alot. His pentrating capability is 2nd to none. And after watching more vids on him, he can drive left but prefers to usually go right. He can't finish left though, but i don't think that really matters. Imagine having two rondo like players play together at times? Could be a nightmare to deal with

Livio Jean Charles = Best comparison is Amir Johnson. 6'9-6'10 and has incredible 7'3 wingspan. This guy is a super role/garbage player , that can defend multiple positions and has some underrated skills like a decent jump shot. Rondo won't be running by himself in transition anymore bc of this guy. We will get some tip ins on the offensive zone finally. From just below the key, only needs a couple of steps to get a layup. Blocks shots and rebounds at a high rate. Best thing is, his motor runs high all game long. Might be a reach, but could end up being a steal. The way he is , physically, defensively, motor, intensity reminds me of some parts of kgs game.

I am super high on Shrauder. This kid is only 19 years old and is a prototypical NBA PG with blazing speed. I've heard Rondo comparisons and Collison comparisons which are both right in their perspective. Have a feeling I'm one of the few people who wouldn't care if we took a PG but if Shrauder is there at 16, Danny needs to take a long hard look.

Dieng I think fills a big time need for the current roster and if we're running it back I think he's a great fit.

LVC is a terrific garbage hyper-role player but 16 is way too high for this kid.

LVC got 27 points against young high end usa talent. A nobody just can't do this.  We are talking about talent that makes 2014 draft one of the deepest in a long time.

He has above avg height , wingspan, quickness and athleticism for a pf. LVC avg 15 pts, 8-9 rbs, 3 blocks, is not out of the question eventually in the nba. To me that is a 15th-16th round pick. Actually that is hovering around 10th pick talent

Bismack Biyombo and Sene also had big games at the hoop summit. I admitt I don't know a ton about him but there are a bunch of players I'd rather have.
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Re: Who do you want in our range in this draft?
« Reply #48 on: May 15, 2013, 08:01:44 PM »

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After seeing the draftexpress YouTube video of him, I'm sold.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmdpZD61dUw

We have to take Steven Adams at 16. With all his offensive flaws and him being a project, one skill this video showed strikes me, and is perfect for Boston.

At the 4:11 mark of the vid where the show the Defensive Potential. The way he defends the pick and roll and how he can take the guy handling the ball AND recovers quickly to his man is perfect for the Boston defense. Not every Center can do this, and he's showing already that he can. That footwork is ridiculously fast for a Center!

I'm sold, we need to take him 16th.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzyr-SZPMbg&list=UURUErR61S_Fl8AFMdRtJ6kw&index=1

this guy is much better. Bc not only is he as fast, athletic but also has some transferable skills from college to the nba.

Adams is sushi raw and it would be a risky move to draft him. Again we already have Melo who is raw too , but now has 1 semi pro year under his belt. If you watch Melo's scouting film, he will also make your mouth drop as Adams. But if you really  watched him play you knew how raw he was.

Not the case with Sully and not the case with Dieng. So if we want a pf/c that can help us out , nil risk involved but has some upside, this is the guy to get. I'm pretty sure though with the lack of guys with size in this draft, he will be gone in the 10-15 range.


I get the Sushi raw, but his upside is way too high and already has an NBA level skill in which he can contribute compare to Dieng, who is indeed NBA ready but is probably reached his ceiling.

DOn't get me wrong though, I'd be ecstatic to have Dieng as well. I just think that while still raw, Steven Adams can contribute the way Goguie Dieng will for our team, especially defensively. Adams though has more room to grow and improve than Dieng.

One thing I really love about Dieng though, that passing ability.

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Re: Who do you want in our range in this draft?
« Reply #49 on: May 15, 2013, 08:04:58 PM »

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After seeing the draftexpress YouTube video of him, I'm sold.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmdpZD61dUw

We have to take Steven Adams at 16. With all his offensive flaws and him being a project, one skill this video showed strikes me, and is perfect for Boston.

At the 4:11 mark of the vid where the show the Defensive Potential. The way he defends the pick and roll and how he can take the guy handling the ball AND recovers quickly to his man is perfect for the Boston defense. Not every Center can do this, and he's showing already that he can. That footwork is ridiculously fast for a Center!

I'm sold, we need to take him 16th.

Holy wow that play at 1:35; amazing for a big man.