Two year reload plan

[CFAN38]

Working this backwards my reload plan would have the end goal of a team headed by Rondo, Green and either Kevin love or LaMarcus Aldridge.

This off season,
     Needs to be dedicated to flexibility and gaining trad-able contracts for the 2014 off-season. If PP and KG are retiring then move PP expiring deal for a rotation worthy asset and a contract that expires for 2014-2015 to be used as trade filler. EX pierce to kings for Salmons and Thompson. Also would need to ship Terry out to a team looking for a vet. Draft BPA if not a PG then add young FA point guard.

2013-2014 Season,
      Keep Rondo out at least full 12 months to recover. Bringing him back no sooner than all-star break. Keep his minutes down and use the year as a rehab assignment for him. While Rondo is out start AB, Lee,Green, Sully, Thompson while getting T Williams, Bass, Crawford , Melo solid bench minutes. Idealy AB and Sully both show the talent that has been displayed in flashes in the past. This team should be lottery bound but not all time terrible.

2014 Off-season
     Hope for a some lottery luck. Not asking for 12th to 1st but maybe 12th to 8th? Then the key becomes the Blazers and the T-Wolves situations. Chances are one of these teams will be struggling and looking to move thir star. Love has already been rumored to be a flight risk and trade rumors have started to rumble in portland. Aldridge will be 28 going on 29 and having had very little experience on a winning team. Then the Cs can make their offers. 2014 first, expiring deal (salmons 8mill), Sully or AB, Lee or Bass and a future protected pick. In a strong draft this should be a solid offer.

2014-2015 season
      This team has a core of Rondo and Aldridge at 29 (or love at 26) and Green at 28. Role players would be Thompson and either Sully and Lee or AB and Bass. Add to that a hopefully rotation worthy Melo and 2013 1st.

I know this involves alot of what ifs but I can at least find this to be plausible.

[bdm860]

2014 Off-season
     Hope for a some lottery luck. Not asking for 12th to 1st but maybe 12th to 8th?

Just a note on this scenario, you can’t move from 12th to 8th pick in the draft via the lottery.  Only the first 3 picks in the draft are actually up for grabs, after that it goes in order of who had the worst records.

If the Celtics were slated to get the 12th pick, they could move up to 1-3 (by winning the lottery), stay at 12 (by any combination of the 11 teams in front of them winning the lottery), or move back to 13-14 (by either/both of the 2 teams behind them winning the lottery).  No way to move up without getting 1-3, (unless you trade).

[pearljammer10]

Im sorry but I stopped reading when I put "two year reload plan" and "hope for some luck" in the same thought.

[Kane3387]

2014 Off-season
     Hope for a some lottery luck. Not asking for 12th to 1st but maybe 12th to 8th?

Just a note on this scenario, you can’t move from 12th to 8th pick in the draft via the lottery.  Only the first 3 picks in the draft are actually up for grabs, after that it goes in order of who had the worst records.

If the Celtics were slated to get the 12th pick, they could move up to 1-3 (by winning the lottery), stay at 12 (by any combination of the 11 teams in front of them winning the lottery), or move back to 13-14 (by either/both of the 2 teams behind them winning the lottery).  No way to move up without getting 1-3, (unless you trade).

I believe this correct. Just wondering where your source of information is. Got a link?

[CFAN38]

2014 Off-season
     Hope for a some lottery luck. Not asking for 12th to 1st but maybe 12th to 8th?

Just a note on this scenario, you can’t move from 12th to 8th pick in the draft via the lottery.  Only the first 3 picks in the draft are actually up for grabs, after that it goes in order of who had the worst records.

If the Celtics were slated to get the 12th pick, they could move up to 1-3 (by winning the lottery), stay at 12 (by any combination of the 11 teams in front of them winning the lottery), or move back to 13-14 (by either/both of the 2 teams behind them winning the lottery).  No way to move up without getting 1-3, (unless you trade).

Got me there, I know better then that. My point still hold that a early teens pick coupled with a future protected pick, an expiring contract, a young productive player, and a solid role player should be enough to land a star on the outs.

[mqtcelticsfan]

2014 Off-season
     Hope for a some lottery luck. Not asking for 12th to 1st but maybe 12th to 8th?

Just a note on this scenario, you can’t move from 12th to 8th pick in the draft via the lottery.  Only the first 3 picks in the draft are actually up for grabs, after that it goes in order of who had the worst records.

If the Celtics were slated to get the 12th pick, they could move up to 1-3 (by winning the lottery), stay at 12 (by any combination of the 11 teams in front of them winning the lottery), or move back to 13-14 (by either/both of the 2 teams behind them winning the lottery).  No way to move up without getting 1-3, (unless you trade).

I believe this correct. Just wondering where your source of information is. Got a link?

I could just be completely missing a joke here, but there's no need for a link. It's fairly common draft knowledge.

[edwardjkasche]

Before this discussion devolves into a number of irrelevant arguments, I wanted to say that I think your logic is sound and your course of action would be beneficial to the Cs.

It's obvious that Ainge is going to try to re-enact his moves from the summer of 2007.  He knows "stars" win championships.  You can always find role players.  It's the stars that are difficult to get.  Three options: Draft, Free Agency, Trade.  The draft takes time and luck.  Free Agency has never been a Boston strong suit, and many young stars are re-signing with their teams.  So, Ainge is left with trades.

Realistically, it will take at least one more season to gather enough draft picks and young assets for trading.  Remember, he spent the mid-2000s gathering assets for the eventual trades that brought in Allen and KG.  I believe he started this process again  (while also extending the window for a Pierce-KG-led team) when he re-signed Green and Bass, and signed Terry and Lee.  These are all trade-able assets.  And, if you don't agree, just look at the guys he traded for Allen and KG - Szczerbiak, West, Gomes, Telfair, Green (the Gerald one), Ratliff, Jefferson, the #5 pick (Green, the Jeff one), and a swapped first round pick with Minny.  He has better talent on the roster now.  And, who is to say he won't end up with the #5 pick next season if Rondo is held out to the All Star break and neither Pierce or KG continue wearing green.

I have long thought Love would be a terrific addition to the Cs, but perhaps due to his long injury history, Ainge could push harder for a player like Aldridge.

I think most fans would be excited come 2014-15 if the roster included Rondo, Green, Sully, and either Love or Aldridge.

[BballTim]

Im sorry but I stopped reading when I put "two year reload plan" and "hope for some luck" in the same thought.

  Every time I read any plan on what the Celts should do if I don't see "hope for some luck" I add that in my head and consider that the poster hasn't really thought it all the way through.

[CFAN38]

Im sorry but I stopped reading when I put "two year reload plan" and "hope for some luck" in the same thought.

  Every time I read any plan on what the Celts should do if I don't see "hope for some luck" I add that in my head and consider that the poster hasn't really thought it all the way through.

My mention of "hope for some luck" was a mistake and a minor part of this post.

Its not like I said my plan is for the celtics to win next years lottery or at least get a top 3 pick then trade that pick for durant or lebron.