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Danny already tanked once, why wouldnt he again ?
« on: May 03, 2013, 11:33:42 PM »

Offline rondohondo

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I get that everyone loves KG and PP , as do I, but the time has come to build for the future . If we bring back this group for another run , we are a 1st or 2nd round exit .

Why waste another year of Rondo's prime when we can kick start the rebuild right now . We have about a 5 year window to build around Rondo and Jeff Green before they start to leave their prime . Neither are # 1 go to options , we need young elite talent to team up with them to actually be a contender again, and also a young big man to anchor their defense .

Bradley and Sully should be good role players

2014 draft is supposed to be the deepest since 2003 , and even though we didn't land the # 1 pick in 2007 , our high lottery pick allowed us to trade for Ray and then KG. Of course we aren't going to land another KG most likely , but who know what superstar might get disgruntled with his current team by then.

If we can trade Bass and Terry for expirings let KG and PP go , and we could have a TON of cap room and a lottery pick in the 2014 off-season.....

Add a lottery talent , and a max free agent to Rondo,Green,Sully, and Bradley , we are right back into contention

Re: Danny already tanked once, why wouldnt he again ?
« Reply #1 on: May 03, 2013, 11:38:09 PM »

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We didn't have legends on our team when we tanked. And hell that barley worked out. He had to pull something out of his you know what after we ended up with the 5th pick. I hate the idea of "TANKING is the way to go, Trade everyone and tank!" Yeah because that is working out so well for teams like the bobcats and such.

Danny is in a very tough spot right now. If KG and Pierce call it quits its a different story. But right now the best product for decent results would be bring these guys back. What happens if we tank and end up with the 4th pick? We don't get Parker or Wiggins.. Then what? It's just to much of a close call to hinge not only the franchises hopes on that but also his job.

Re: Danny already tanked once, why wouldnt he again ?
« Reply #2 on: May 04, 2013, 12:07:09 AM »

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I top 10 pick in next year's draft would be a great asset, even if it's #10.  Much more valuable than another first or second round exit with this group.

To rebuild you need assets.

The answer to me is clear.  Next season should be the start of the rebuild.
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Re: Danny already tanked once, why wouldnt he again ?
« Reply #3 on: May 04, 2013, 02:05:50 AM »

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I'm torn on this whole tanking thing.  I think that even if Pierce and Garnett move on that a team with a core of Rondo, Bradley, Green, and Sully has a fairly good shot of making the playoffs if everyone stays healthy. 

Throw in T-Will, Bass, Randolph, Jet, Melo, Lee and our first round pick, and I think that will be a fun team to watch develop.  Personally, I'd like to keep Paul and Kevin to help them along. 

Of course, a lot is going to depend on Rondo's knee and Sullinger's back. 

I'm not interested in seeing Danny make big moves to get worse, though.  Next year is a win/win either way as far as I'm concerned.  If that young, rebuilding team makes the playoffs, then it's a great experience, if they don't then it's a good chance to add more talent through the draft.  Either way,  I don't think we are as far away as many fans seem to believe.   
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Re: Danny already tanked once, why wouldnt he again ?
« Reply #4 on: May 04, 2013, 02:11:38 AM »

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The problem with the tanking idea is that we won't be bad enough to get a top 5 pick. I don't even think we'll be bad enough to get a top 10 pick. If Rondo is healthy at the beginning of next season, this lineup

Rondo/TWill
Bradley/Terry
Green
Sully
Some center?

is not going to be bad enough for a good enough draft pick

Re: Danny already tanked once, why wouldnt he again ?
« Reply #5 on: May 04, 2013, 02:25:53 AM »

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The problem with the tanking idea is that we won't be bad enough to get a top 5 pick. I don't even think we'll be bad enough to get a top 10 pick. If Rondo is healthy at the beginning of next season, this lineup

Rondo/TWill
Bradley/Terry
Green
Sully
Some center?

is not going to be bad enough for a good enough draft pick

Seriously? That's AWFUL. Rondo will not be full speed, Sully will be a second year player coming off back surgery, We have no C, Bradley is a fringe role player at best. Green and Rondo is not a team..

Re: Danny already tanked once, why wouldnt he again ?
« Reply #6 on: May 04, 2013, 02:29:05 AM »

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The problem with the tanking idea is that we won't be bad enough to get a top 5 pick. I don't even think we'll be bad enough to get a top 10 pick. If Rondo is healthy at the beginning of next season, this lineup

Rondo/TWill
Bradley/Terry
Green
Sully
Some center?

is not going to be bad enough for a good enough draft pick

Seriously? That's AWFUL. Rondo will not be full speed, Sully will be a second year player coming off back surgery, We have no C, Bradley is a fringe role player at best. Green and Rondo is not a team..

I agree with bobbyv that if Rondo and Sully both come back at full health next year, this team, with some minor additions, has a very good shot at being a playoff team, even without Pierce and KG.
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Re: Danny already tanked once, why wouldnt he again ?
« Reply #7 on: May 04, 2013, 02:31:22 AM »

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The problem with the tanking idea is that we won't be bad enough to get a top 5 pick. I don't even think we'll be bad enough to get a top 10 pick. If Rondo is healthy at the beginning of next season, this lineup

Rondo/TWill
Bradley/Terry
Green
Sully
Some center?

is not going to be bad enough for a good enough draft pick

Seriously? That's AWFUL. Rondo will not be full speed, Sully will be a second year player coming off back surgery, We have no C, Bradley is a fringe role player at best. Green and Rondo is not a team..

I agree with bobbyv that if Rondo and Sully both come back at full health next year, this team, with some minor additions, has a very good shot at being a playoff team, even without Pierce and KG.

They were 6 games under 500 with a healthy team this year. That's about a 30- 35 win team, which is what I am hoping for next year.

Re: Danny already tanked once, why wouldnt he again ?
« Reply #8 on: May 04, 2013, 02:32:56 AM »

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The problem with the tanking idea is that we won't be bad enough to get a top 5 pick. I don't even think we'll be bad enough to get a top 10 pick. If Rondo is healthy at the beginning of next season, this lineup

Rondo/TWill
Bradley/Terry
Green
Sully
Some center?

is not going to be bad enough for a good enough draft pick

Seriously? That's AWFUL. Rondo will not be full speed, Sully will be a second year player coming off back surgery, We have no C, Bradley is a fringe role player at best. Green and Rondo is not a team..

I agree with bobbyv that if Rondo and Sully both come back at full health next year, this team, with some minor additions, has a very good shot at being a playoff team, even without Pierce and KG.

That is not even close to a playoff team. That team struggles to get 30 wins

Re: Danny already tanked once, why wouldnt he again ?
« Reply #9 on: May 04, 2013, 02:38:31 AM »

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The problem with the tanking idea is that we won't be bad enough to get a top 5 pick. I don't even think we'll be bad enough to get a top 10 pick. If Rondo is healthy at the beginning of next season, this lineup

Rondo/TWill
Bradley/Terry
Green
Sully
Some center?

is not going to be bad enough for a good enough draft pick

Seriously? That's AWFUL. Rondo will not be full speed, Sully will be a second year player coming off back surgery, We have no C, Bradley is a fringe role player at best. Green and Rondo is not a team..

I agree with bobbyv that if Rondo and Sully both come back at full health next year, this team, with some minor additions, has a very good shot at being a playoff team, even without Pierce and KG.

They were 6 games under 500 with a healthy team this year. That's about a 30- 35 win team, which is what I am hoping for next year.

We definitely underperformed to start the season.  But, I have no doubt that we would have been a much more dangerous playoff team if we still had Rondo.  I know we were never an offensive juggernaut, but the way our offense went in the tank against a mediocre defensive Knicks team was tough to watch at times.  Rondo would definitely have helped.

Sully's rebounding would have been nice, too. 
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PG: G. Hill/D. Schroder
SG: C. Lee/B. Hield/T. Luwawu
SF:  Giannis/J. Lamb/M. Kuzminskas
PF:  E. Ilyasova/J. Jerebko/R. Christmas
C:    N. Vucevic/K. Olynyk/E. Davis/C. Jefferson

Re: Danny already tanked once, why wouldnt he again ?
« Reply #10 on: May 04, 2013, 02:40:37 AM »

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i dont think Danny ever tanked..
reading what u put down
u havent either..
need proof

Re: Danny already tanked once, why wouldnt he again ?
« Reply #11 on: May 04, 2013, 02:41:44 AM »

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The problem with the tanking idea is that we won't be bad enough to get a top 5 pick. I don't even think we'll be bad enough to get a top 10 pick. If Rondo is healthy at the beginning of next season, this lineup

Rondo/TWill
Bradley/Terry
Green
Sully
Some center?

is not going to be bad enough for a good enough draft pick

Seriously? That's AWFUL. Rondo will not be full speed, Sully will be a second year player coming off back surgery, We have no C, Bradley is a fringe role player at best. Green and Rondo is not a team..

I agree with bobbyv that if Rondo and Sully both come back at full health next year, this team, with some minor additions, has a very good shot at being a playoff team, even without Pierce and KG.

They were 6 games under 500 with a healthy team this year. That's about a 30- 35 win team, which is what I am hoping for next year.

We definitely underperformed to start the season.  But, I have no doubt that we would have been a much more dangerous playoff team if we still had Rondo.  I know we were never an offensive juggernaut, but the way our offense went in the tank against a mediocre defensive Knicks team was tough to watch at times.  Rondo would definitely have helped.

Sully's rebounding would have been nice, too.


Guys without KG we were one of the worst defensive teams in the league. KG IS our defense. Take away PP and you've taken away the No. 1 scoring option on the team. How in the world do you expect things to get BETTER with them gone? We will be horrific, a complete trash team. Sully isn't even as good as Al Jeff who was on a 21 win team. Rondo will help but he and Jeff are not good enough to carry a team to the playoffs

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« Reply #12 on: May 04, 2013, 03:10:07 AM »

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Losing Pierce and KG is not 'tanking', just like trading Harden isn't taking. It is the economics of basketball. You can only pay so many players and you can only have so many minutes to divide among players. Deciding a player is not a good financial move is not 'tanking'.

'Tanking' is used to refer to sitting players on a losing team to increase the chances that the team gets a better draft pick, or having fire sales.

The thing with the 'one more year' people is that there will always be 'one more year' people until it is too late (which it may already be, since we probably won't get value anymore in a trade and we are not longer a top team).

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« Reply #13 on: May 04, 2013, 03:15:45 AM »

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That line up is garbage, you guys think that would beat the bucks, let alone the 76ERS who didn't even make the playoffs? Let Rondo sit half a season like Pierce did. Bink a top 5 pick and hopefully a top 2 pick by losing as many games as possible.
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