Trouble in Lob City

[sed522002]

Chris Paul, locker room cancer, I love it.

Seriously, Rondo gets called out as all kinds of things, from difficult personality to team detriment.  Yet here we have Paul, who is known for being very similar to Rondo in their demanding nature, and yet only one of them is viewed as a problem.

Get real folks, neither is a problem.  Star players are demanding, that is what makes them winners.  MJ and Larry were two of the biggest "jerks" ever.  Nobody cared, they won titles.

Agree..These a professionals and that's their job. When you're highly competitive it can rub some people the wrong way. I'll take it a step further, look at KG, he rightfully has the respect from Celtics and it's fans, but if he wasn't as accomplished people would say he had a horrible attitude or was a maniac with the way he goes about things and his intensity. I love KG and Rondo for being the intense in your face type players.

[BballTim]

Every teammate loves Rondo, call him their leader and somehow he's a headcase who is bad for the locker room.  Chris Paul can't even keep a couple of young guys in check, and it's everybody else's fault but his.  Don't you just love media double standards...  I wonder how many trade Chris Paul threads they have over in Lob city.

not many I would imagine.    Clippers with out Paul have shown how turrible they are against most teams. 

Paul is a diva and a bit of a horses behind  , but the guy can make a bunch of not so great NBA players into a contender .

Much as I dislike the diva CP3  , I would want him as my first choice as a point man. 

I want CP3 to stay on Clips long as possible ......   CP3 on LAKERS or HEAT is a sure sign of doom for everybody else.

  Paul's a great player but I don't think he's ever made any team he's played for contenders.

Clips are contenders right now - in that 2nd tier with NY, Indy, and Memphis.  Not a favorite but they're up there.

  Maybe. over the last 45 games they have the same record we do, I don't think people are rushing to call the Celts 2nd tier contenders. We'll see if they pick it up for the playoffs. Do you really think it's reasonably likely they'll get to the finals?

[LarBrd33]

CP3 and Dwight are both unrestricted free agents.  That 1% chance that they both bail on their LA teams and join forces in Dallas is slowly creeping up to 1.5%

[Kane3387]

CP3 and Dwight are both unrestricted free agents.  That 1% chance that they both bail on their LA teams and join forces in Dallas is slowly creeping up to 1.5%

Not enough salary cap room according to coon. Would have to be in Atlanta where they join al horford and both would have to accept a little below the max.

[BballTim]

Every teammate loves Rondo, call him their leader and somehow he's a headcase who is bad for the locker room.  Chris Paul can't even keep a couple of young guys in check, and it's everybody else's fault but his.  Don't you just love media double standards...  I wonder how many trade Chris Paul threads they have over in Lob city.

not many I would imagine.    Clippers with out Paul have shown how turrible they are against most teams. 

Paul is a diva and a bit of a horses behind  , but the guy can make a bunch of not so great NBA players into a contender .

Much as I dislike the diva CP3  , I would want him as my first choice as a point man. 

I want CP3 to stay on Clips long as possible ......   CP3 on LAKERS or HEAT is a sure sign of doom for everybody else.

  Paul's a great player but I don't think he's ever made any team he's played for contenders.

to say that is real tricky. he's only been on 2 teams his entire career, and the players who go from team to team to team arent usually the ones that make huge impacts. there are a few exceptions (but i suppose u can u can ray allen as one).

It's not fair because the most talented player he played with before the Clips was David West.

  It's not fair to say that it's Chris Paul's fault those teams weren't contenders. It's fair to dispute the claim that Chris Paul makes a bunch of not so great players into contenders when he's never done it.

[Snakehead]

Every teammate loves Rondo, call him their leader and somehow he's a headcase who is bad for the locker room.  Chris Paul can't even keep a couple of young guys in check, and it's everybody else's fault but his.  Don't you just love media double standards...  I wonder how many trade Chris Paul threads they have over in Lob city.

not many I would imagine.    Clippers with out Paul have shown how turrible they are against most teams. 

Paul is a diva and a bit of a horses behind  , but the guy can make a bunch of not so great NBA players into a contender .

Much as I dislike the diva CP3  , I would want him as my first choice as a point man. 

I want CP3 to stay on Clips long as possible ......   CP3 on LAKERS or HEAT is a sure sign of doom for everybody else.

  Paul's a great player but I don't think he's ever made any team he's played for contenders.

to say that is real tricky. he's only been on 2 teams his entire career, and the players who go from team to team to team arent usually the ones that make huge impacts. there are a few exceptions (but i suppose u can u can ray allen as one).

It's not fair because the most talented player he played with before the Clips was David West.

  It's not fair to say that it's Chris Paul's fault those teams weren't contenders. It's fair to dispute the claim that Chris Paul makes a bunch of not so great players into contenders when he's never done it.

Yeah that's definitely fair, but also not something I would have ever said.

There's hardly any players who can pull that off though, throughout NBA history.

[CelticG1]

One time me and my buddy disagreed, and punches were thrown. We got over it, and joke about it now.

Cuz that's what guys do. Blake and Deandre will be fine.

Dont think it works quite like that with everyone.

Especially when you've probably been treated like a golden god your whole life and have in inflated ego.

Anyway can't wait to here the Chris Paul excuses this year for abother first round knock out 2nd round sweep :-)

The coaching angle has been pre wrapped for a couple years.

Then you have the "They're still to young", "Doesn't have enough talent around him", "It was a bad matchup", "The west is harder" and my personal favorite "who said theywere going to be contenders? I didn't"

[celtsfan84]

Every teammate loves Rondo, call him their leader and somehow he's a headcase who is bad for the locker room.  Chris Paul can't even keep a couple of young guys in check, and it's everybody else's fault but his.  Don't you just love media double standards...  I wonder how many trade Chris Paul threads they have over in Lob city.

not many I would imagine.    Clippers with out Paul have shown how turrible they are against most teams. 

Paul is a diva and a bit of a horses behind  , but the guy can make a bunch of not so great NBA players into a contender .

Much as I dislike the diva CP3  , I would want him as my first choice as a point man. 

I want CP3 to stay on Clips long as possible ......   CP3 on LAKERS or HEAT is a sure sign of doom for everybody else.

  Paul's a great player but I don't think he's ever made any team he's played for contenders.

to say that is real tricky. he's only been on 2 teams his entire career, and the players who go from team to team to team arent usually the ones that make huge impacts. there are a few exceptions (but i suppose u can u can ray allen as one).

It's not fair because the most talented player he played with before the Clips was David West.

  It's not fair to say that it's Chris Paul's fault those teams weren't contenders. It's fair to dispute the claim that Chris Paul makes a bunch of not so great players into contenders when he's never done it.

How many players in league history besides elite big men have ever made a bunch of not so great players into contenders?  Jordan before Pippen became an All-Star?  LeBron in Cleveland?  Maybe Rick Barry?  Certainly not Kobe or Isiah.  The number is very small.  Actually, the number is pretty small even when elite big men are included. 

[fairweatherfan]

That starts with "T" and that rhymes with "P" and that's short for "Paul".

(obscure?)

[gpap]

CP3 and Dwight are both unrestricted free agents.  That 1% chance that they both bail on their LA teams and join forces in Dallas is slowly creeping up to 1.5%

Dallas? Why can't we be a destination for top tier players?

If our cap space is tied up, then DA should do something to free up a ton of space

[BballTim]

CP3 and Dwight are both unrestricted free agents.  That 1% chance that they both bail on their LA teams and join forces in Dallas is slowly creeping up to 1.5%

Dallas? Why can't we be a destination for top tier players?

If our cap space is tied up, then DA should do something to free up a ton of space

  Then all he has to do is convince players that winters in Boston are warm and sunny and that people in Mass don't pay income taxes.

[Snakehead]

Every teammate loves Rondo, call him their leader and somehow he's a headcase who is bad for the locker room.  Chris Paul can't even keep a couple of young guys in check, and it's everybody else's fault but his.  Don't you just love media double standards...  I wonder how many trade Chris Paul threads they have over in Lob city.

not many I would imagine.    Clippers with out Paul have shown how turrible they are against most teams. 

Paul is a diva and a bit of a horses behind  , but the guy can make a bunch of not so great NBA players into a contender .

Much as I dislike the diva CP3  , I would want him as my first choice as a point man. 

I want CP3 to stay on Clips long as possible ......   CP3 on LAKERS or HEAT is a sure sign of doom for everybody else.

  Paul's a great player but I don't think he's ever made any team he's played for contenders.

to say that is real tricky. he's only been on 2 teams his entire career, and the players who go from team to team to team arent usually the ones that make huge impacts. there are a few exceptions (but i suppose u can u can ray allen as one).

It's not fair because the most talented player he played with before the Clips was David West.

  It's not fair to say that it's Chris Paul's fault those teams weren't contenders. It's fair to dispute the claim that Chris Paul makes a bunch of not so great players into contenders when he's never done it.

How many players in league history besides elite big men have ever made a bunch of not so great players into contenders?  Jordan before Pippen became an All-Star?  LeBron in Cleveland?  Maybe Rick Barry?  Certainly not Kobe or Isiah.  The number is very small.  Actually, the number is pretty small even when elite big men are included.

It's just tiny period.  Even if those teams were "contenders"... they weren't really in the sense that they wouldn't really win the title.

The most recent example, LeBron with the Cavs, sure got to the Finals, but then got demolished by the Spurs.

[BballTim]

Every teammate loves Rondo, call him their leader and somehow he's a headcase who is bad for the locker room.  Chris Paul can't even keep a couple of young guys in check, and it's everybody else's fault but his.  Don't you just love media double standards...  I wonder how many trade Chris Paul threads they have over in Lob city.

not many I would imagine.    Clippers with out Paul have shown how turrible they are against most teams. 

Paul is a diva and a bit of a horses behind  , but the guy can make a bunch of not so great NBA players into a contender .

Much as I dislike the diva CP3  , I would want him as my first choice as a point man. 

I want CP3 to stay on Clips long as possible ......   CP3 on LAKERS or HEAT is a sure sign of doom for everybody else.

  Paul's a great player but I don't think he's ever made any team he's played for contenders.

to say that is real tricky. he's only been on 2 teams his entire career, and the players who go from team to team to team arent usually the ones that make huge impacts. there are a few exceptions (but i suppose u can u can ray allen as one).

It's not fair because the most talented player he played with before the Clips was David West.

  It's not fair to say that it's Chris Paul's fault those teams weren't contenders. It's fair to dispute the claim that Chris Paul makes a bunch of not so great players into contenders when he's never done it.

How many players in league history besides elite big men have ever made a bunch of not so great players into contenders?  Jordan before Pippen became an All-Star?  LeBron in Cleveland?  Maybe Rick Barry?  Certainly not Kobe or Isiah.  The number is very small.  Actually, the number is pretty small even when elite big men are included.

  Yes, that's correct. People frequently say matter of factly that CP3 makes average teams into contenders. Clearly we haven't seen it from him. Unrelated, but kind of like the way people refer to Josh Smith as an all-star big.

[Yogi]

CP3 and Dwight are both unrestricted free agents.  That 1% chance that they both bail on their LA teams and join forces in Dallas is slowly creeping up to 1.5%

Dallas? Why can't we be a destination for top tier players?

If our cap space is tied up, then DA should do something to free up a ton of space

  Then all he has to do is convince players that winters in Boston are warm and sunny and that people in Mass don't pay income taxes.

It's better the way it is.  I like that only people who want to be a Celtic sign with Boston.  I have no desire for CP3 as long as we have Rondo.

Russel, Cowens, Parish... I don't want that torch to be passed to Dwight.  I'll wait until our next big man comes along.  Until then I will root for Sullinger and Melo to become great.

KG, Pierce, Rondo, Jeff Green they could all have left for warmer weather and less taxes.  They chose to stay here.  Bradley and Sullinger are here to stay as well.  I'm perfectly happy with that. 

[ScottHow]

I have to say this brings a smile to my face after having to hear all the Rondo hate as a locker room presence