Trade idea to get Haywood and the #17

[Eddie20]

It's widely known that Dallas wants to shed cap this summer, while at the same time Ainge is looking to obtain additional picks. So how about Haywood and their #17 pick to us using our available cap space? This would save them a lot of money (from Haywood and the #17 pick) and will also provide them with a trade exception. In addition, we can waive Haywood and have the #17 pick to go with #'s 21 & 22.

http://www.dallasnews.com/sports/dallas-mavericks/headlines/20120608-clause-in-haywood-s-contract-could-make-him-sweetener-in-trade-talks.ece

The Mavericks have big decisions to make before the NBA draft June 28, and free agency begins July 1. But no decision may be bigger than what to do with center Brendan Haywood.
It's been widely speculated that the Mavericks will use the one-time amnesty provision to remove Haywood from the salary cap. But a rare clause in Haywood's contract could make that move unnecessary.
Haywood has what one NBA executive called "the best spread provision in the NBA'' in his contract. In layman's terms, any team that waives Haywood can spread out the payments for the remainder of his contract until 2026, according to an NBA source.
That means the team that owns his rights and waives him would be responsible for no more than $2 million per year over the next 14 years.
That clause in the deal is a huge incentive when it comes to including Haywood as a possible sweetener in trade talks that are going fast and furious as teams gear up for the frenzy that will begin as soon as the NBA finals end. Other teams see that as a very appealing contract.
On paper, Haywood's contract would appear to be an albatross. He's guaranteed money over the next three seasons, escalating from $8.349 million in 2012-13 to $9.073 million the following season and $9.798 million in 2014-15. His final season, at $10.522 million, is not guaranteed.
But the fact that the $27.22 million that is guaranteed can be spread out over more than a decade, if a team so desires, is a huge advantage for a team looking for salary-cap protection if they also are looking for a functional center.
Haywood averaged 5.2 points and six rebounds in 21.2 minutes per game this season.
What the spread provision in his contract allows is for the Mavericks possibly to use Haywood and other assets to facilitate sign-and-trades for free agents, which wouldn't further eat into their money under the salary cap.

[BostonNative]

Ok would you rather haywood and the 17th pick or ariza and the 10th pick?

[Eddie20]

Ok would you rather haywood and the 17th pick or ariza and the 10th pick?

Technically you could have both since, as the article suggests, Haywood could be waived and only account for 2M per year.

I don't see how adding the #10 and #17 pick for 2M per year and Ariza's contract is a bad thing. People forget that Ariza can still play and is only 26.

[Cman]

Ok would you rather haywood and the 17th pick or ariza and the 10th pick?

Technically you could have both since, as the article suggests, Haywood could be waived and only account for 2M per year.

I don't see how adding the #10 and #17 pick for 2M per year and Ariza's contract is a bad thing. People forget that Ariza can still play and is only 26.

Why doesn't Dallas just waive him then, and keep the draft pick?

[Eddie20]

Ok would you rather haywood and the 17th pick or ariza and the 10th pick?

Technically you could have both since, as the article suggests, Haywood could be waived and only account for 2M per year.

I don't see how adding the #10 and #17 pick for 2M per year and Ariza's contract is a bad thing. People forget that Ariza can still play and is only 26.

Why doesn't Dallas just waive him then, and keep the draft pick?

Because they still have to use the amnesty on Marion since they hope to get 2 max FA guys (Williams and Hibbert or Gordon perhaps)

[BostonNative]

ok then we would have the 10th, 17th, 21st, 22nd pick. Although that sounds awesome it just sounds like way to much going on lol.  just sounds more like a dream than reality. But if we did i would package some to get TRob

[Eddie20]

ok then we would have the 10th, 17th, 21st, 22nd pick. Although that sounds awesome it just sounds like way to much going on lol.  just sounds more like a dream than reality. But if we did i would package some to get TRob

Ainge is definitely up to something though. He's already worked out Barnes and Drummond.

[pearljammer10]

So is this thread suggesting we pick up haywood, ariza, the 10th and the 17th pick for nothing in return?

[Eddie20]

So is this thread suggesting we pick up haywood, ariza, the 10th and the 17th pick for nothing in return?

No, not at all. The Ariza one was on another thread, and in this one Haywood would be waived.  Which one seems unlikely may I ask? That's the luxury of having cap space.

[Finkelskyhook]

I don't know at this point in his career if Haywood is much of an upgrade over Stiemsma.

[Moranis]

The Celtics can not have cap space until after the draft.  Thus, the Celtics wouldn't be trading for the pick but the player selected by Dallas. 

Additionally, the Celtics only have cap space if they remove all the roster holds.  That means either sign the players to small enough contracts that you still have cap space or you have to let them go and lose Bird rights (they could still be signed as you could any free agent).


I guess what I'm saying is, these trades for draft picks using cap space are silly. 

[nostar]

Can we not renounce the rights to those players before the draft? Seems like we should be able to renounce our rights to KG and Ray and have that cap room before the draft. If anyone can point to something in the CBA or League policy that says we can't I'd be interested.

Also we are going to have ~20 in cap space if KG/Allen/Bass all leave so I don't think the ideas are silly. The new CBA actually punishes teams that don't use their cap space as I understand it. Let's use it and make another run or use it to get pieces for the future.

[LooseCannon]

The salary cap year ends on June 30.  Players become free agents on July 1.  Players with expiring contracts are still technically under contract until June 30, which is after the draft.  You can't renounce a player who is not a free agent.  Any draft day (or pre-draft) trades have to obey the rules with respect to the 2011-2012 salary cap. (See Larry Coon's CBA FAQ).

Also, I think the Heywood stretch provision refers to be able to defer payments.  I think you still have the cap hit of his contract, but an owner with cash flow problems could waive him and save some money by being able to defer payment without interest.