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If Ainge Decides to Blow It Up at Trade Deadline
« on: March 03, 2012, 11:17:11 AM »

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If Ainge decides to blow it up at trade deadline instead of the Summer, then he better get a good return that'd help the C's in the significantly in future from any of the Big 4 he might trade. I don't want to see mediocre return. At this point, I'd rather take my chances against the Heat or Bulls in Round 1 than finish at 9th or 10th in the Eastern Conference with a slim chance of going into the Top 3 picks. However, I guess we could give Doc a Vacation and hire M.L. Carr to coach the remainder of the season for a serious tank-job.

Re: If Ainge Decides to Blow It Up at Trade Deadline
« Reply #1 on: March 03, 2012, 11:26:29 AM »

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If Ainge decides to blow it up at trade deadline instead of the Summer, then he better get a good return that'd help the C's in the significantly in future from any of the Big 4 he might trade. I don't want to see mediocre return. At this point, I'd rather take my chances against the Heat or Bulls in Round 1 than finish at 9th or 10th in the Eastern Conference with a slim chance of going into the Top 3 picks. However, I guess we could give Doc a Vacation and hire M.L. Carr to coach the remainder of the season for a serious tank-job.

Your idea of good return seems to be players that immediately help the team out. Personally, I would be fine with trading for picks and amassing a bunch of them. That would assure a tank job netting a better pick for the C's and give them help in the future.

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« Reply #2 on: March 03, 2012, 11:34:47 AM »

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If Ainge decides to blow it up at trade deadline instead of the Summer, then he better get a good return that'd help the C's in the significantly in future from any of the Big 4 he might trade. I don't want to see mediocre return. At this point, I'd rather take my chances against the Heat or Bulls in Round 1 than finish at 9th or 10th in the Eastern Conference with a slim chance of going into the Top 3 picks. However, I guess we could give Doc a Vacation and hire M.L. Carr to coach the remainder of the season for a serious tank-job.

Your idea of good return seems to be players that immediately help the team out. Personally, I would be fine with trading for picks and amassing a bunch of them. That would assure a tank job netting a better pick for the C's and give them help in the future.

If Ainge decides to go this route, I'd like to see him try to get a pick and young-ish player like Jeff Green whom still has potential if trained properly, not just 26th to 30th pick in the 1st Round, especially if your not getting an expiring contract in return for RA or KG's expiring contract. That's what I meant by "good return".

I stated "future" in my original post, to clarify, I don't want set Veterans with no potential.

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« Reply #3 on: March 03, 2012, 12:15:32 PM »

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If Ainge decides to blow it up at trade deadline instead of the Summer, then he better get a good return that'd help the C's in the significantly in future from any of the Big 4 he might trade. I don't want to see mediocre return. At this point, I'd rather take my chances against the Heat or Bulls in Round 1 than finish at 9th or 10th in the Eastern Conference with a slim chance of going into the Top 3 picks. However, I guess we could give Doc a Vacation and hire M.L. Carr to coach the remainder of the season for a serious tank-job.

Your idea of good return seems to be players that immediately help the team out. Personally, I would be fine with trading for picks and amassing a bunch of them. That would assure a tank job netting a better pick for the C's and give them help in the future.

Me too, though if Danny can land another player like Josh Smith who could help lure a good FA here this summer, that's all the better.

Re: If Ainge Decides to Blow It Up at Trade Deadline
« Reply #4 on: March 03, 2012, 02:15:07 PM »

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Looking at the NBA Standings and Celtics Schedule:

C's play 7 more games until the NBA Trade Deadline

6 of 7 are against teams currently 0.500 and above and all 7 are against teams 0.400 and above. Say the C's go 3-4 in that stretch. They'll be 21-21 or 0.500 at the NBA Trade Deadline on March 15, 2012. Now if Ainge decides to Blow Up The C's at that point, and they try and succeed at losing the rest of their 24 games. They'll be 21-45 with a winning percentage of 0.318. Currently that puts them in the 6th to 8th worst record in the league, winning pct-wise, assuming the teams at the bottom win at the same clip and don't take their tanking up a notch.

Even if the C's try this method, we all know how that worked out last time in 2007. The C's got the lowest possible pick #5 they could get with the 2nd worst record in the league. Order of finish was 6th, 5th, 4th, 1st, 2nd, 3rd worst records for the top 6 picks. It almost seemed like David Stern was punishing teams with the 3 worst records that year for tanking while trying to make it realistic by having the next 3 worst records get the top 3 picks.

How much more would a 6 to 10 pick (say C's finish with 9th worst record and a team behind them jumps into the top 3) be worth than a non-lottery, #15 pick? (worst record of teams to make the playoffs)

Re: If Ainge Decides to Blow It Up at Trade Deadline
« Reply #5 on: March 03, 2012, 02:19:55 PM »

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This is what PIETRUS says to this thread...


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Re: If Ainge Decides to Blow It Up at Trade Deadline
« Reply #6 on: March 03, 2012, 02:28:13 PM »

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We should all hold Pietrus to that then if Ainge decides to keep the core intact.  ;D

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« Reply #7 on: March 03, 2012, 02:30:37 PM »

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This is what PIETRUS says to this thread...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suRtUF9fY8o

Means about as much as a Rex Ryan guarantee.
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Re: If Ainge Decides to Blow It Up at Trade Deadline
« Reply #8 on: March 03, 2012, 02:55:27 PM »

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Starters

PG: Rondo
SG: Pietrus
SF: Pierce
PF: Smith
C: Garnett

Bench

6th Man:Beasley
Bass
Wilcox
Barbosa
Moore
Johnson (Trade Bait - hope i'm wrong)
sasha
marquis
stiemsma

^If this is the celtics at the end of the dead line, miami should be worried but Chicago should be scared

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« Reply #9 on: March 03, 2012, 03:39:16 PM »

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If Ainge decides to blow it up at the trade deadline, I want to see him go all-in on rebuilding and put the team in a position where it has no chance of signing a free agent like Dwight Howard in the off-season.  I want him to take on a bad contract in exchange for a real asset, something significantly better than JJ Hickson or a late first-round pick.

I'd rather he not do that.
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Re: If Ainge Decides to Blow It Up at Trade Deadline
« Reply #10 on: March 03, 2012, 04:41:54 PM »

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pg rondo
sg pietrus
sf beasley
pf josh smith
c kevin garnett

Re: If Ainge Decides to Blow It Up at Trade Deadline
« Reply #11 on: March 03, 2012, 04:55:50 PM »

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Starters

PG: Rondo
SG: Pietrus
SF: Pierce
PF: Smith
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Bench

6th Man:Beasley
Bass
Wilcox
Barbosa
Moore
Johnson (Trade Bait - hope i'm wrong)
sasha
marquis
stiemsma

^If this is the celtics at the end of the dead line, miami should be worried but Chicago should be scared

If that's the C's after the deadline, the Celtics totally ripped off the Hawks.
Never forget the Champs of '08, or the gutsy warriors of '10.

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Re: If Ainge Decides to Blow It Up at Trade Deadline
« Reply #12 on: March 03, 2012, 05:22:21 PM »

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if you listen to his weei interviews, its seems ainge no longer thinks we are competing for a title, therefore he wants to start accumalating assets that can be traded for a future trade for a supertstar. If danny can get more valueable assets for a star trade by trading anyone on this roster he will