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This isn't a trade idea or rumour, I am thinking that Rondo may be moved because he will simply be too good and keep this team too close to the playoffs if he stays.

Move him now for someone like Gasol who is off the books in 2014 and try and squeeze a run out of Ray,Pierce and KG, then go into ultimate rebuild.

Then have a core of Bradley, JJJ, Moore, our two first round picks and vuala.....lottery time, very quickly.

Of course the argument is that Danny won't want to 'blow it up' and go through the suffering of a 7-8 year rebuild and would rather re-tool.

It's very hard to gauge the 'locker room problems' that are being cited by the media lately and if they are of any value at all.

It's got to be rebuild around Rondo or another young stud like Curry- Or move Rondo for an expiring stud (Gasol) and dive to the bottom of league for a mega rebuild.
In this case, Pierce is probably moved to a contender in the off season.
It's so hard to discern if Ainge has built up this cap space to take on bad contracts for picks, or to spend it on a re tool.


Thoughts on what they are trying to do here?
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Re: If Rondo is traded, isn't it most likely for picks or 1 year players?
« Reply #1 on: March 01, 2012, 10:33:43 AM »

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This isn't a trade idea or rumour, I am thinking that Rondo may be moved because he will simply be too good and keep this team too close to the playoffs if he stays.

Move him now for someone like Gasol who is off the books in 2014 and try and squeeze a run out of Ray,Pierce and KG, then go into ultimate rebuild.

Then have a core of Bradley, JJJ, Moore, our two first round picks and vuala.....lottery time, very quickly.

Of course the argument is that Danny won't want to 'blow it up' and go through the suffering of a 7-8 year rebuild and would rather re-tool.

It's very hard to gauge the 'locker room problems' that are being cited by the media lately and if they are of any value at all.

It's got to be rebuild around Rondo or another young stud like Curry- Or move Rondo for an expiring stud (Gasol) and dive to the bottom of league for a mega rebuild.
In this case, Pierce is probably moved to a contender in the off season.
It's so hard to discern if Ainge has built up this cap space to take on bad contracts for picks, or to spend it on a re tool.


Thoughts on what they are trying to do here?

No I think it's the exact opposite.  Ainge has said numerous times that he won't allow the team to drop back down to the post Bird/McHale levels.  That means he's not going ot blow up the team and pick up draft picks.  IMO the only way that Rondo is traded is if he get's more value than Rondo,period end of story.  He doesn't want to rebuild...

Re: If Rondo is traded, isn't it most likely for picks or 1 year players?
« Reply #2 on: March 01, 2012, 10:48:56 AM »

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I maintain that if Rondo is to be traded, it will most likely be on draft day, if Danny sees a guy he thinks will be a star in the top 5-6 and can find a way to move up by trading Rondo, perhaps taking on a bad contract to do it.
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Re: If Rondo is traded, isn't it most likely for picks or 1 year players?
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I maintain that if Rondo is to be traded, it will most likely be on draft day, if Danny sees a guy he thinks will be a star in the top 5-6 and can find a way to move up by trading Rondo, perhaps taking on a bad contract to do it.

Then he better trade Rondo now (not that I want him to). Danny's draft selections in the past three years has been not impressive. Yes, Bradley and JJJ is still young and has some upsides but just looking at the names he passed (Landry Fields, Trevor Booker, Greivis Vasquez, Chandler Parsons, Marshon Brooks), just me, I don't trust Danny's drafting anymore. Lester Hudson, really? When we could've had (at least tried them out) Dionte Christmas, Tyrese Rice, Josh Heytvelt, ALONZO GEE, WESLEY f'n MATTHEWS!
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If we trade Rondo its certainly not going to be for an expiring contract... that wouldnt make any sense at all. If we trade Rondo its going to be for a main pieces or a couple smaler pieces that will allow us to move and build going forward and hopefully be able to attract at least one big name free agent. If we trade Rondo for an expiring, the only player we have on the roster is Pierce, and then no one would wanna play there.

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« Reply #5 on: March 01, 2012, 11:45:22 AM »

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I maintain that if Rondo is to be traded, it will most likely be on draft day, if Danny sees a guy he thinks will be a star in the top 5-6 and can find a way to move up by trading Rondo, perhaps taking on a bad contract to do it.

Then he better trade Rondo now (not that I want him to). Danny's draft selections in the past three years has been not impressive. Yes, Bradley and JJJ is still young and has some upsides but just looking at the names he passed (Landry Fields, Trevor Booker, Greivis Vasquez, Chandler Parsons, Marshon Brooks), just me, I don't trust Danny's drafting anymore. Lester Hudson, really? When we could've had (at least tried them out) Dionte Christmas, Tyrese Rice, Josh Heytvelt, ALONZO GEE, WESLEY f'n MATTHEWS!


You just named a bunch of late round steals.  Picking players like that is very different from evaluating talent at the top of the draft.

A couple years ago, Danny was reportedly really high on Tyreke Evans, and even considered trading Rondo to move up in the draft and select him.  At the time, the '09 draft was considered pretty weak, and Rondo was coming off a post-season in which he averaged a triple-double for an entire 7 game series.

Ainge didn't end up trading for Tyreke, but Evans went on to have a 20-5-5 rookie season, garnering RoY honors.  Evans has disappointed a bit since then, but it's fair to say that Evans has far exceeded the initial expectations for him when he was coming into the league, and he might have developed even more by now if he were on a team that isn't so dysfunctional.

If Danny sees another guy like that in the top 5 and can move Rondo to get him, I wouldn't be at all surprised if he pulls the trigger.

Say, for example, the Hornets end up with the 4th pick in the draft, and Danny thinks Barnes, Beal, Lamb, or Drummond is going to be available there and will become a star.  Perhaps he'd trade Rondo, our first round pick (and the Clips pick if we still have it) and get that #4 pick, taking back Ariza and / or Okafor (bad contracts that we can absorb with our cap space).
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« Reply #6 on: March 01, 2012, 12:32:14 PM »

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Trading Rondo for his p--- poor attitude is one thing but its really more than that.  They want him to be the new leader of this team and the leader of anything needs to be respected, lead by words and actions, play and practice the hardest of anyone on the team, etc. 

Now, as far as "game" Rondo can be great whenever Rondo wants to be great.  He quits and plays passively way way way too many times.  His showboating causes way too many turnovers for a team that just cannot afford to be cavalier with the ball.  Each possession is critical to this team and Rondo (and Pierce recently) are just way too careless.  Sometimes he makes easy plays hard.  And what's with the ball bouncing high crap after the tip off?  If I was a ref I'd call him for traveling.  And watching the ball roll 40 feet on an inbounds and nearly losing it?  That is the kind of showboating I have no use for.

And, look at his shooting game.  He's great driving to the basket (when he wants to) and passing and dishing.  But when he is forced to shoot a 10-15 foot shot its a crap shoot.  When he goes to the foul line its a crap shoot.  I cannot get too peeved at a young player having shooting problems then working on his shooting during the summer, taking special instructions, training, shooting, practicing then over a couple of years showing marked improvement.  Many, many NBA players could not shoot worth a crap when they first came into the league, then they became very good shooters.  Many of them had and I know it was because they respected their craft and worked hard at it.  They worked for their money.

Now, look at Rondo?  His shooting is no better than it was when he came into the league what 5 years ago?  This is crap and shows me that he doesn't give a Edited.  Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline. and he's doing what he [dang] well please to do, [dang] the team, I'm the boss and I'll do what I [dang] well please.  That's what I see.

As I tell my kids - words are words and I don't judge you on your words or your intentions.  I judge you on what I see.  The results.  And to me, Rondo is not team leader material and has shown me very little to indicate he might grow into it or become one.  And this really pains me because I've been a big fan of his game since day one.  I thought he should've been starting early in his rookie year.  I could see the Bob Cousy in him.  But, after 5-6 years, sorry.  I don't see it anymore.  Sure he'll be a great player for some team out there.  But I'll bet you, that team will have some of the other players as the true leaders of the team.  The C's need a new leader to take the torch and Rondo's leadership torch has gone out in my mind.  Would I like him on my team?  Sure, but not as the leader entrusted to hopefully take us to another banner.  Trade him Danny!  Just get something of value we can build on.