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If we're sure we can't get DH+DW with capspace...
« on: February 25, 2012, 05:52:28 PM »

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Sequence 1:

Rondo+JO for Gortat+Nash
Ray for Mo-Will+Bledsoe
KG for Odom+Marion

Nash/Bledsoe/Bradley
Mo Williams/Bledsoe/Bradley/Daniels/
Pierce/Pietrus/Marion
Marion/Odom
Gortat/Bass/Wilcox


Sequence 2:
Rondo+JO for Gasol
Allen for Mo Williams
Pierce for Kevin Martin+Goran Dragic
KG for Odom+Marion

Mo williams/Dragic
Kevin Marin/Bradley/Pietrus
Marion/Pietrus
Odom/Bass
Gasol/Wilcox


Sequence 3
Rondo+JO for Gasol
KG+JJohnson+#1 for Varajeo/Sessions/Jamison

Sessions/Bradley
Allen/Pietrus
Pierce/Pietrus
Gasol/Jameson
Varajeo/Bass


Sequence 4
Pierce for Dragic+Martin
Rondo+JO for Gasol
KG for Williams+Brand
Allen for Marion+Future #1 or Beaubois

Dragic/Bradley
Martin/Pietrus
Marion/Pietrus
Gasol/Bass
Brand/Bass/Wilcox

Re: If we're sure we can't get DH+DW with capspace...
« Reply #1 on: February 25, 2012, 06:11:17 PM »

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Sequence 1:

Rondo+JO for Gortat+Nash
Ray for Mo-Will+Bledsoe
KG for Odom+Marion

Nash/Bledsoe/Bradley
Mo Williams/Bledsoe/Bradley/Daniels/
Pierce/Pietrus/Marion
Marion/Odom
Gortat/Bass/Wilcox

That lineup would be better off with Ray Allen in it instead of Bledsoe and Mo Williams.

Might be best to trade Bass for a piece that offers more minutes. Split the minutes between Marion, Gortat and Odom (6th man) up front. Trade Bass for a backup PG. Maybe Ramon Sessions in Cleveland.

Nash, Sessions, Bradley
Ray, Pietrus, Pavlovic, E.Moore
Pierce, Pietrus
Marion, Odom, Wilcox
Gortat, Odom, Stiemsma

Re: If we're sure we can't get DH+DW with capspace...
« Reply #2 on: February 25, 2012, 06:16:27 PM »

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Sequence 2:
Rondo+JO for Gasol
Allen for Mo Williams
Pierce for Kevin Martin+Goran Dragic
KG for Odom+Marion

Mo williams/Dragic
Kevin Marin/Bradley/Pietrus
Marion/Pietrus
Odom/Bass
Gasol/Wilcox

I don't like the Pierce to Houston trade. Better to keep Paul. I'd love to put KG alongside Pau Gasol so I wouldn't do the Dallas trade either.

Mo Williams, Bradley
Pietrus, Pavlovic
Pierce, Pavlovic
Garnett, Bass, Wilcox
Pau Gasol, (Garnett), Stiemsma

That starting five is very strong but the bench players on the perimeter is fairly horrific. Need to trade picks and/or Wilcox to better fill out that perimeter corps.

Re: If we're sure we can't get DH+DW with capspace...
« Reply #3 on: February 25, 2012, 06:22:45 PM »

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Sequence 3
Rondo+JO for Gasol
KG+JJohnson+#1 for Varajeo/Sessions/Jamison

Sessions/Bradley
Allen/Pietrus
Pierce/Pietrus
Gasol/Jameson
Varajeo/Bass

If Cleveland won't give up Varejao for expiring contracts + two first round picks, why would they give up Varejao + Sessions + Jamison for Garnett + two first rounders?

And if Cleveland would give up Varejao for expirings + two first rounders, wouldn't it better to keep KG and put Varejao alongside him? Oh my, KG + Pau + Varejao, wow!

Varejao and Sessions is not worth sacrificing Garnett and two first rounders for.

Re: If we're sure we can't get DH+DW with capspace...
« Reply #4 on: February 25, 2012, 06:25:11 PM »

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Sequence 4
Pierce for Dragic+Martin
Rondo+JO for Gasol
KG for Williams+Brand
Allen for Marion+Future #1 or Beaubois

Dragic/Bradley
Martin/Pietrus
Marion/Pietrus
Gasol/Bass
Brand/Bass/Wilcox
(1) I don't see Phily sacrificing Lou Williams just to move Brand for an old timer like KG.

(2) I can't see Dallas trading Marion for Ray

(3) I have no interest in trading Pierce for Kevin Martin. Martin is too flawed a player. You only pursue a player like Martin when the rest of your long term core is already in place. A finishing piece. Not someone you can build around. Too flawed.

Re: If we're sure we can't get DH+DW with capspace...
« Reply #5 on: February 25, 2012, 06:29:31 PM »

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I really do not like any of the sessions but thanks for the hard work you put in them.

Re: If we're sure we can't get DH+DW with capspace...
« Reply #6 on: February 25, 2012, 06:32:26 PM »

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All of these "sequences" are either unrealistic or unpalatable or both.  Moral of the story -- you can't really reload on the fly.
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