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A Summer Re-Loading Plan (In - Gasol, Haywood; Out - Rondo)
« on: February 11, 2012, 09:52:06 PM »

Offline LooseCannon

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This plan is based upon the idea that there is legitimate interest from the Lakers in acquiring Rondo.  It also assumes that Dallas is desperate to clear cap space to sign Dwight Howard (and possibly also Deron Williams), who has politely told the Celtics he does not intend to go to Boston.  Also, Brandon Bass opts out because another team is willing to hand him a long contract for $7 million/year.  All salary cap data is taken from shamsports.com.  The trades may need tweaking, but I don't think it is completely ridiculous as a first draft and I think it illustrates how cap space has more use than just signing free agents.

Step one. The Celtics renounce everyone and cut the unguaranteed contract of E'Twuan Moore.

Step two.  The Celtic acquire Paul Gasol for Rajon Rondo, a 2012 first round pick, and a lottery-protected future first round pick.  The Lakers also pick up a trade exception of $8 million.  The Lakers could make the trade exception $762,195 larger by sending Andrew Goudelock to the Celtics, who would then waive Goudelock and his unguaranteed contract.  By my calculation, that would be required if the Lakers wanted to get Shawn Marion from Dallas.  One option is that the Lakers could accept Brandon Bass (if he doesn't opt out, or in a sign-and-trade if he does) and a smaller trade exception. 

Step three.  The Celtics help the Mavericks create cap space by taking on the contract of Brendan Haywood.  The fee to do so is that the Celtics get Rodrique Beaubois.  In return, Dallas gets some sort of future draft consideration.  The Mavs got a future second round pick for Rudy Fernandez and Corey Brewer.  Given the ridiculously long contract Haywood has (signed through 2015-2016, with the final season completely unguaranteed), arguably the Mavs shouldn't ask for much if they can avoid having to amnesty Haywood's huge contract in order to sign Dwight Howard.

That leaves the Celtics with a team of Roddy Beaubois and Avery Bradley manning the point, Paul Pierce at small forward, Paul Gasol at power forward, at Brendan Haywood at center, and JuJuan Johnson on the bench.

Including $1 million for the Celtics' remaining first round pick and a $500K roster charge for each roster spot under 12 men, that puts the Celtics' salary figure at around $52.6 million.  Let's assume the salary cap is around $61 million, which is an estimate I have seen in several places.  That gives the Celtics $8.4 million to play around with in cap space, but keep in mind that you can include the approximately $500K roster charge to what you pay guys as you fill the first twelve slots on the roster.

Step four. Kevin Garnett and Ray Allen want to come back for reduced salaries.  You can take the extra cap space and give them contracts along the lines of $4.7 million with a player option for a second year for a similar amount.  They can agree to take less to allow the Celtics to sign another free agent, of course.

That leaves the "room" exception, which can be for two years at $2.5 million, given to teams with cap space who have to renounce the full-sized MLE in order to sign free agents.  My dream is that Pietrus likes Boston and agrees to sign for this amount.

That gives Boston a team of:

Gasol, Haywood, and Garnett at power forward and center.  JaJuan Johnson is the fourth big off the bench.  Paul Pierce, Ray Allen, and Mickael Pietrus form a three-man rotation at the wings.  Roddy Beaubois and Avery Bradley form an offense-defense combo at point guard.  The Celtics also have a first- and second-round pick on the roster.

Step five.  Fill out the bench.  These moves give a roster of 11 so far.  I would be happy with bringing back Sasha Pavlovic and Greg Stiemsma on minimum contracts, favoring continuity and bringing back players who have familiarity with the team's system.  That leaves two spots.  I would be happy to fill those two slots with the best D-League players who fit into Doc's system.  If available, I wouldn't mind the Celtics taking a flyer on players such as Blake Ahern or Manny Harris.  And there's always the possibility that another player of the quality of Pietrus will be available.  I also would not be averse to Jermaine O'Neal coming back as a minimum salary guy expected to play no more than 10-15 minutes per game when healthy (sort of like Jeff Foster in Indiana).  A veteran third-string point guard who can handle a string of DNPs might also be something worth looking for.

I have one other idea for finessing the salary cap.  I'm not entirely sure it works, but I think it does.  Before the last game of the season, cut the 15th man on the roster and sign Jeff Green to a minimum contract if he seems to be recovering well.  As a Bird rights free agent, his cap hold will be 150% of his previous salary, which would be the minimum.  If I did the math right, in my dream scenario, this would require KG and Ray Allen to agree to salaries of around $4 million to accommodate the cap hold for Jeff Green, who can then be signed for more than the minimum.

A theoretical roster might look something like:
Bigs - Pau Gasol, Kevin Garnett, Brendan Haywood, JuJuan Johnson, Greg Stiemsma
Wings - Paul Pierce, Ray Allen, Michael Pietrus, Jeff Green, Sasha Pavlovic
Point guards - Rodrigue Beaubois, Avery Bradley, veteran minimum salary third-string point guard
Unknown position - first round pick, second round pick
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Re: A Summer Re-Loading Plan (In - Gasol, Haywood; Out - Rondo)
« Reply #1 on: February 11, 2012, 10:51:40 PM »

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So you want to trade Rondo AND 2 first rounders for Gasol? .... WOW  ??? ???

Just because we might not get Howard doesn't mean we make a stupid move for the sake of doing so. Dallas would also LOVE to get out of Haywood's contract.

EDIT: When has DH12 gone on record and mentioned that he does not want to come to Boston? The only thing I've read was that the only team he ruled out are the Warriors.

Re: A Summer Re-Loading Plan (In - Gasol, Haywood; Out - Rondo)
« Reply #2 on: February 11, 2012, 11:28:45 PM »

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EDIT: When has DH12 gone on record and mentioned that he does not want to come to Boston? The only thing I've read was that the only team he ruled out are the Warriors.

Nowhere.  This is a Plan B I think the Celtics could embark upon if it becomes clear that Howard doesn't want to come to Boston.  I guess I didn't make that clear.
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Re: A Summer Re-Loading Plan (In - Gasol, Haywood; Out - Rondo)
« Reply #3 on: February 11, 2012, 11:43:31 PM »

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EDIT: When has DH12 gone on record and mentioned that he does not want to come to Boston? The only thing I've read was that the only team he ruled out are the Warriors.

Nowhere.  This is a Plan B I think the Celtics could embark upon if it becomes clear that Howard doesn't want to come to Boston.  I guess I didn't make that clear.

Yes but how would this make sense? If you want to rebuild then why would you kick in two first rounders with Rondo for Gasol when Gasol could be had without the inclusion of two 1st's?

Re: A Summer Re-Loading Plan (In - Gasol, Haywood; Out - Rondo)
« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2012, 01:07:14 AM »

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Yes but how would this make sense? If you want to rebuild then why would you kick in two first rounders with Rondo for Gasol when Gasol could be had without the inclusion of two 1st's?

I actually feel that Gasol can't be had without kicking in a bit more than just Rondo straight up.
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Re: A Summer Re-Loading Plan (In - Gasol, Haywood; Out - Rondo)
« Reply #5 on: February 12, 2012, 04:29:53 AM »

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seemingly, many people evade going to boston...despite the good sales pitch the recently acquired guys have said about the organization...i wonder why?
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Re: A Summer Re-Loading Plan (In - Gasol, Haywood; Out - Rondo)
« Reply #6 on: February 12, 2012, 06:23:00 AM »

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I don't understand why we give up a young PG and 2 draft picks in order to build a team for next season that won't be particularly good. Why would we give up our future for a guy whose best years are behind him. We already have lots of those. No way we trade Rondo for someone who will be 32.

I don't see how this plan is re-loading. This plan is an exercise in denial.

Re: A Summer Re-Loading Plan (In - Gasol, Haywood; Out - Rondo)
« Reply #7 on: February 12, 2012, 09:19:44 AM »

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Yes but how would this make sense? If you want to rebuild then why would you kick in two first rounders with Rondo for Gasol when Gasol could be had without the inclusion of two 1st's?

I actually feel that Gasol can't be had without kicking in a bit more than just Rondo straight up.

If you said Bynum instead of Gasol then I would agree. However, Gasol is about to be in his mid 30's by the time his contract is up. If you offered Rondo and two firsts for Gasol alone the Lakers would be doing back flips. 

Re: A Summer Re-Loading Plan (In - Gasol, Haywood; Out - Rondo)
« Reply #8 on: February 12, 2012, 02:40:00 PM »

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Do you believe that LA would trade Gasol for Rondo (or Rondo plus Bass)?  Do you think about it a bit longer if no first round picks are sent to the Lakers?
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Re: A Summer Re-Loading Plan (In - Gasol, Haywood; Out - Rondo)
« Reply #9 on: February 12, 2012, 03:09:54 PM »

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The Heat would beat that team in 5 games, maybe a sweep.

Re: A Summer Re-Loading Plan (In - Gasol, Haywood; Out - Rondo)
« Reply #10 on: February 12, 2012, 05:07:55 PM »

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Do you believe that LA would trade Gasol for Rondo (or Rondo plus Bass)?  Do you think about it a bit longer if no first round picks are sent to the Lakers?

Boston would probably have to kick in something small, but absolutely not two first round picks. Its a weird dynamic on this board right now where someone like Rondo has become seriously undervalued when at this time last year he was seriously overvalued. The grass is always greener on the other side.


Re: A Summer Re-Loading Plan (In - Gasol, Haywood; Out - Rondo)
« Reply #11 on: February 12, 2012, 10:37:31 PM »

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I think you would be more accurate in accusing me of overvaluing Gasol than undervaluing Rondo.

My first idea was actually give the Lakers a huge trade exception and two first round picks for Gasol and put together a short-term core of Rondo, Pierce, and Gasol, but I couldn't make the numbers work to bring back Garnett and Allen to go with them.

I think that players in their mid-twenties are currently being over-valued by fans because of how the Miami Heat came together, so I want to explore the idea of acquiring more mature players in the 28-32 age range.
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Re: A Summer Re-Loading Plan (In - Gasol, Haywood; Out - Rondo)
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Gasol has a good game in Boston and now he's the answer to our prayers for the future! We want Pau!!!  ::)
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