we need someone who can create their own shot BAD! ideas on who?

[snively]

JR Smith. We say to him take the min this year then we'll take care of you the next (or we imply it as to not get penalized by the league. That would allow us to sign a free agent and then give him big money after the fact.

I had forgotten about JR.  Always been a big fan.  Nate Robinson with 2-guard size.

[myteamisbetterthanyours]

um how bout Paul Pierce who hasnt played yet.. i heard he could create his own shot..... rondo's pretty good at that too i heard

[Evantime34]

um how bout Paul Pierce who hasnt played yet.. i heard he could create his own shot..... rondo's pretty good at that too i heard

Right now we need someone who can create his own shot other than Rondo. Once Pierce comes back we will need someone who can create his own shot off the bench. That's where JR comes in.

[Marcus13]

This has been an issue for years.

It's time to look at Iverson.  JR Smith will also be an option come playoff time.

[Evantime34]

Iverson wasn't even good enough to stick in the NBA last year. He's too old to help anymore.

[myteamisbetterthanyours]

we don't need anyone else who can "create their own shot".. The offense is not the issue. We scored 100 plus points against the "best defense" in the NBA last night (without our best offensive player who can "create his own shot").. what we need is another defensive-minded center (like the steamroller cuz quite frankly Wilcox is a bum) and for Pierce and Pietrus to get on the floor.. and we'll be str8.. remember as Lebron always says "Rome wasn't built in one day".. let's hope the C's get it together fast tho...

[Lord of Mikawa]

Reggie Miller 

Reggie was close to signing a few years ago.

[StartOrien]

The Maine Red Claws just got a guy...

GET BUCKETS, YA'ALL

[ManUp]

Allen Iverson?

Do the Celtics need "someone to create their own shots bad" or do they need "someone to create bad shots"?



Just give everyone the green light to fire up any shot they want.  That should have the same effect. 

Actually you've said the magic word... CREATE! Thats all we're saying here... the Celts don't have a creator unless his name is Pierce. Rondo isn't much of a creator of his own shots also he's just really quick.

Out offense isn't about iso plays. Actually though, Ray creates many of his own shots, as does Rondo. Rondo is really quick AND he creates his own shots. If not, who are you saying is creating Rondo's shots when he penetrates?

Sounds to me like some people are talking about getting guys who want to shoot every play, but that is not how our offense works. That is what Nate Robinson was, and I'll pass on that.

Ray's terrible when he has to creat his own shot. He has some success against scrubs, but even then it's iffy. The less Ray has to dribble the better off he is.

I agree that Ray is a horrible dribbler, but he can get to the rim on his own. It is when he backs out and gets trapped that he is an embarrassment. He also makes a lot of bad kickout passes on penetration. But both of those are side issues. If Ray stopped thinking about the team, he would make less bad passes and would create more shots for himself like he has in the past.

Historically, Ray has created his shot more but we have made his game more narrow on the Celtics due to our system. We would do the same to most other shooters. Doc did the same with Pierce. This has made Pierce more efficient and a winner instead of just a show-off.

Before the KG trade Pierce and Ray both dribbled a lot. It is Doc's offense that takes the ball out of their hands. I would love to have a Wade or even a Brandon Roy type who can get himself a GOOD shot off of the dribble, but we seem to be mentioning guys who just want to shoot, no matter the shot, who would cost us too much considering Danny does't want to sacrifice the future for the sake of adding pieces for this season.

I know Ray used to create his own shots on a regular basis, but I'm of the opinion that he can't do so anymore with much efficiency. Ray was an explosive athlete back in those days and could blow past you. These days Ray can get defenders off balance, but he's pretty slow for the most part getting to the basket. He can beat weak defenders one on one, but he needs the help or the offense to beat a good one.

[Ticketz]

Gilbert Arenas

[Yoki_IsTheName]

This is a crazy idea but I think it'll benefit us in a way. Now I just wanna say, before you rip me off on this idea, hear me out first.

Trade JO + 1st + filler to match salaries (or if we have a trade exception) to Washington for, yes, the headcase Andray Blatche.

JO as a lot of people are saying is practically done. I'm giving up on him already. But he is an expiring contract, can still log in productive 13-14 minutes for that Wizards team and opens up a spot for Jan Vesely for them. And they get a first rounder.

Blatche is a headcase, a cancer call him whatever you want. But when focused, is a 18pts - 8 reb. guy. He still has the potential to be better, and I believe he will be IF HE'S AROUND some veteran leadership and the C's have that in the Big Three. His "talent" is undeniably there, he's just not being focused on what really needs to be done. But sky is the limit if he can be guided to the right direction.

Oh and as the topic of the thread is, he can score. Down low, where he likes it and mid range.

I'd say this is a good deal. Would you rather gamble on a headcase Blatche who I believe can be fixed with the right people around him, or JO who does not have anything left?

Bring on the hate.

[Celtics4ever]

We got beat what 97 to 78.  This had a lot more with stagnant offense.  We were clearly spent and tired.   We didn't play well on either end of the court.