soo...what did the lockout exactly accomplish?

[cman88]

all this talk during the lockout about wanting small market teams to be more competitive, wanting to stop the rediculous contracts and superstars leaving their teams high and dry..

and here we are just 2 weeks removed from hearing a deal was done...and you have the new drama queen superstar CP3 pulling a Lebron/Melo wanting to leave his team high and dry to go play with other superstars...and youve got Tyson Chandler putting his contract demands at $20million.

honestly, doesnt seem like anything has changed...seems like the same problems the nba had before to me..

if the NBA just becomes a few teams loaded with superstars I think alot of people are going to lose interest...I certainly would be

[BASS_THUMPER]

it got a lotta people back to work..

and im not talking the players

[nickagneta]

What it accomplished was putting a lot more money in the pockets of the owners. What it will also accomplish is making sure the middle class of the NBA players makes a whole lot less money.

Watch. The superstars will get their money. The big market teams with great local media deals are still going to spend like crazy. But the non-superstars will start seeing substantially less and the players are going to be complaining about all the money they have to give back at season's end because the owners will have paid way more than the CBA says they should have to.

The owners spent money like drunken sailors when they claimed to be losing money. How much do you think they are going to spend now that they will be making money and when they know they will be getting money back every year from the players if they do overspend?

They will spend huge money on superstars and young players that could be superstars but the system will limit what they pay the mid level talent guy. There's still going to be a ton of bad contracts(Kevin Love making $17 million a year, hello) and the spending will continue but the players will have to dole out money to the owners at the end of every year now.

[YouGotRondo d]

In the beginning of WWII, Hitler was essentially given Poland in the hopes that it would quench his thirst for power. Obviously, it didn't.

The same is true for this lockout. The owners wanted more money. They got it. Revenue sharing was 57-43 in favor of the players. Now its roughly 51-49 (correct me if I'm wrong).

However, none of the biggest issues were really addressed. Small market teams will continue to incur big losses for a few reasons, not all of which I am knowledgeable about :

-sign and trades are still allowed for two years, permitting franchises over the cap to bring in more players.
-the MLE still exists, which also favors high level franchises.
-contract length is decreased favoring player movement to big cities
(There are more reasons, which escape me.)

Also, unlike in other sports, the number of high level players is far fewer. Those players (IMO selfishly) demand to play only in large markets. More than half the league's teams don't meet these standards. So once you have teams like Miami hoarding 3, that puts other franchises at a disadvantage.

In another six years, when there is an opt out option, we will go through the same thing all over again. They should start discussing these things now, because it may take that long to devise an adequate solution.

I believe it starts with contraction of maybe 4 teams, but it should also involve restrictions on player movement and steeper salary cuts to the middle and lower class.

[manl_lui]

The owners got what they want...they ended up making millions more by having the players decrease from 57% of the BRI to 51.2%

i think the owners didnt really care if its 50, 50.2 or 51.2%...i think their major goal was to have the players make less money in return the owners make more...

more people return to work

as for players...nothing changed...players like CP3 and Dwight still holding their teams hostage

[Kane3387]

BRI reduction

[TheTruthFot18]

Anticipation 

And lots of it

[wdleehi]

Hopefully more NBA teams that are financially solid going forward.




I see no issue with the top guys getting more money.  They are the ones the NBA market around and therefor are the guys more fans pay to see.  (or buy their jerseys)


The rest of the guys will just have to be happy with the scraps (you know, a couple million a year)

[guava_wrench]

all this talk during the lockout about wanting small market teams to be more competitive, wanting to stop the rediculous contracts and superstars leaving their teams high and dry..

and here we are just 2 weeks removed from hearing a deal was done...and you have the new drama queen superstar CP3 pulling a Lebron/Melo wanting to leave his team high and dry to go play with other superstars...and youve got Tyson Chandler putting his contract demands at $20million.

honestly, doesnt seem like anything has changed...seems like the same problems the nba had before to me..

if the NBA just becomes a few teams loaded with superstars I think alot of people are going to lose interest...I certainly would be

I don't think the small market teams nor the players leaving teams issues are particularly relevant. The CBA isn't going to eliminate free agency and the ability of workers to seem out better working conditions.

The small market problem is not a problem the players need to address since if it is a problem at all, it is a revenue sharing issue. Small market teams don't need to be competitive - they just need revenue. Every season, we need to have teams with losing records. It is better for the league if the bottom teams are in small markets. It is also better for the fans, since there are less fans to be disappointed in that case.

The % or revenue going to players was the core issue, and that changed a lot.

[bdm860]

You know what the lockout accomplished, it added a lot more excitement to this season.

I love the short free agency period before the start of the season.   Basically what is normally stretched out over 3 months is condensed to 3 weeks.  Less waiting by the fans, more moves, more excitement.

I love the extra basketball games we’ll get every month (here I’ll take a little extra quantity over a little less quality, of course I’m forgetting about the 2 months of basketball we already missed, but I’m just focusing on the present).

And the 66 game season will add a lot more excitement to the playoff race.  There’s a lot less of chance for a team to pull away, with the overall playoff picture likely being up in the air till the very end.  Also less opportunities for tanking.  Put it this way, in the lockout shortened season of ’99 there was only a 6 game differential between the #1 and #8 seed in the East, with a 3 way tie for #1 (little bigger difference in the West at 12 games, but still there was a tie for first).  There was only a 3 game difference between the #5 seed and the 9th place team in the East, with only a 2 game difference between #6 seed and 9th place in the West.  Compared to a 2011 when there was a 25 and 15 game difference between seeds #1 and #8 in the East and West respectively, and the playoff picture largely established with still a month left in the season.  I’m telling you, this will be one of the most exciting seasons in the NBA overall due to the shortened season and condensed schedule.

Call me an optimist, just focusing on the positive.